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maybe one day we'll win a draft lottery and enter the conversation...
Uh...i dont recall Ottawa winning a draft lottery...
maybe one day we'll win a draft lottery and enter the conversation...
Uh...i dont recall Ottawa winning a draft lottery...
You must mean something different than I do when you say "won a lottery pick."Ottawa literally just won a lottery pick last season (3OA)
Ottawa literally just won a lottery pick last season (3OA)
He's saying that there are 3 lottery picks each year, and if you are selected to be in the top 3, you are a winner of the lottery.Huh?
You must mean something different than I do when you say "won a lottery pick."
He's saying that there are 3 lottery picks each year, and if you are selected to be in the top 3, you are a winner of the lottery.
I think most people would typically call the winner of the #1 overall pick the "winner". It's semantics.
Top-2 are LA and NYR (order not yet available).I won't complain, but I'm trying to understand his thinking. I know he's not a fan of Schneider, and not a huge fan of Kravtsov. Maybe he's upgraded Miller a lot in the last few weeks. I would still think that Raymond+Seider>Lafreniere+the second listed Ranger. These lists are usually about whose highest end prospects are the best.
Who knows though? The fact that we are still ranking so high on these lists says a lot about the drafting in recent drafts after the first round. To draft prospects like Jones, Pajuniemi, Barron, Wall, Berard, Skinner after the first two rounds says we are doing pretty well in the mid/late rounds of late.
No kidding. I wanted to damn well WIN the lottery, not "win" 3rd overall. Nevermind that 3 looks f***ing wicked right now, I wanted to WIN.
Not complaining, my definition of winning the lottery is getting 1st overall. We're lucky we got a great player at 3, i acknowledged that.Yeah, and we wanted to move up in the last 4 lotteries, not move back.
You guys got Stutzle at 3, I honestly have no clue what you are complaining about here. You guys (albeit SJs pick) did "win" the lottery this year. We have never done so, and have dropped in 4 consecutive drafts.
Yeah it was a little weird because he had 2 Wings prospect in the "top tier" of his pool breakdowns while both Sens and Rangers had only 1 in that tier (Stutzle/Lafreniere). Even though those tier system seemeed to be pool-specific in his description, I guess he did put a lot of weight in the depth of the pools also.I won't complain, but I'm trying to understand his thinking. I know he's not a fan of Schneider, and not a huge fan of Kravtsov. Maybe he's upgraded Miller a lot in the last few weeks. I would still think that Raymond+Seider>Lafreniere+the second listed Ranger. These lists are usually about whose highest end prospects are the best.
Who knows though? The fact that we are still ranking so high on these lists says a lot about the drafting in recent drafts after the first round. To draft prospects like Jones, Pajuniemi, Barron, Wall, Berard, Skinner after the first two rounds says we are doing pretty well in the mid/late rounds of late.
Yeah it was a little weird because he had 2 Wings prospect in the "top tier" of his pool breakdowns while both Sens and Rangers had only 1 in that tier (Stutzle/Lafreniere). Even though those tier system seemeed to be pool-specific in his description, I guess he did put a lot of weight in the depth of the pools also.
Wings were just ranked 4th by Athletic. I think they deserve to be in that conversation.
Looking at graduations I think Wings will be a contender for #1 this summer.
Ottawa literally just won a lottery pick last season (3OA)
I think the wings will likely be the top contender for first in the offseason. Ottawa especially will graduate basically everyone of their top guys, the rangers lose Laffy etc.
But reading those rankings I have no clue how you can have Raymond ranked over Seider right now. Theyre both high end prospects but Seiders season has been pretty ridiculous so far this year. Hes the best prospect in the world not in the NHL right now
Oof, don’t know if I’d go that far. He’s had a solid season but not everyone is playing. I wouldn’t take him over Drysdale or Sanderson
detroit would f***ing laugh at you if you offered to trade either for Seider
Oof, don’t know if I’d go that far. He’s had a solid season but not everyone is playing. I wouldn’t take him over Drysdale or Sanderson
Meh, you havent paid attention to what hes doing in the SHL this year clearly. Seider is basically what you hope Sanderson becomes in 3 or 4 years at this point.
You wanna talk about production... how about Sanderson putting up the third most points on his team for dmen in the NCAA with 6 vs Seider with the 2nd highest points per game for dmen in the entire SHL at the age of 19. At 19 hes likely the most dominant player in the 3rd or 4th best pro league in the world. And that 2nd best points per game is for a guy who got drafted 6th overall for how good his defensive game is and the offense was considered questionable
Seider is the clear best defensive prospect in the world. Drysdale and Sanderson would be in that next group but Seider has had a big enough season to separate from them. The only guy I would put with Seider is possibly Byfield not in the NHL and thats iffy to say considering his back to back pretty weak world juniors
I think that you're really overlooking how good Seider was last year. By the end of the season he was the go-to, all situations guy for Grand Rapids as an 18 year old. He was also fantastic in the WJC, in which I believe that he was only scored against like 2 times for the entire tournament all while logging an absurd amount of minutes for them. If last season wouldn't have been cut short, there's no doubt he would be on the Red Wings.I mean, I’d hope Sanderson would be in the NHL in 3-4 years. Just saying.
I take it this is a really sensitive topic for Wings fans, and I haven’t seen Seider play a lot. I get why it would be, by the way, with the Wings luck. The whole draft lottery, Zadina situation, Raymond’s WJC. You need one of your prospects to be good.
But you’re comparing a D+2 season to a D+1 season, which is huge, especially for defensemen. As I said, Seider wasn’t doing anything special last year.
Sanderson is a defense first defenseman. He had an awesome WJC where he won Gold for the USA playing huge minutes in the Gold Medal Game, where he was swallowing up anything that came near him. Ottawa is very happy with his development post-draft, and for good reason.
I mean, I’d hope Sanderson would be in the NHL in 3-4 years. Just saying.
I take it this is a really sensitive topic for Wings fans, and I haven’t seen Seider play a lot. I get why it would be, by the way, with the Wings luck. The whole draft lottery, Zadina situation, Raymond’s WJC. You need one of your prospects to be good.
But you’re comparing a D+2 season to a D+1 season, which is huge, especially for defensemen. As I said, Seider wasn’t doing anything special last year.
Sanderson is a defense first defenseman. He had an awesome WJC where he won Gold for the USA playing huge minutes in the Gold Medal Game, where he was swallowing up anything that came near him. Ottawa is very happy with his development post-draft, and for good reason.