OT: Besides Staple, what other sources are trustworth (re: NYI)?

[Darth Milbury]

I have been soundly unimpressed by both Dreger and Mackenzie (gasp!) when it comes to the Islanders. Too many reports in which the source is "it is believed that...." (in other word, Darren and Bob sitting around the water cooler writing down what they personally think could happen).

Also, really unimpressed by Elliote Friedman. I know he is widely respected, but even if you go back before this summer's Dipietro stuff, there are multiple instances of him practically making stuff up or wildly speculating.

So, my questions is, beyond Staple (who I give credit for just presenting cold hard data without wild speculations), what sources provide reasonable info about the Isles?

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[IslesNorway]

Botta used to be a decent source but I can't think of any at the moment

 

[Darth Milbury]

Botta used to be a decent source but I can't think of any at the moment

I forget her name, but the women who eventually moved to ESPN still breaks good stories once in a while.

 

[Not4u]

I forget her name, but the women who eventually moved to ESPN still breaks good stories once in a while.

Katie strang

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Garf doesn't tell anyone anything, and spreads poop as he deems fit, like with the Duchene rumors prior to picking up Tavares.

However, somehow one of the Philly announcers caught wind of the Moulson trade and made a very specious remark on the air during the third period of the Philly game before the trade. That was the closest possible leak I have ever seen.

 

[blitzkriegs]

Katie strang

When she was at Newsday it was obvious she was being fed stories by the Isles. You could also infer that in Botta's tone/tweets back in the day that he was hyping her up skills/qualities above her assignment.

 

[blitzkriegs]

I have been soundly unimpressed by both Dreger and Mackenzie (gasp!) when it comes to the Islanders. Too many reports in which the source is "it is believed that...." (in other word, Darren and Bob sitting around the water cooler writing down what they personally think could happen).

Also, really unimpressed by Elliote Friedman. I know he is widely respected, but even if you go back before this summer's Dipietro stuff, there are multiple instances of him practically making stuff up or wildly speculating.

So, my questions is, beyond Staple (who I give credit for just presenting cold hard data without wild speculations), what sources provide reasonable info about the Isles?

Isles keep it close to the vest. Their management team is so small (intentionally for $ and control reasons) that it limits the liklihood of 'leaks' on personnel.

 

[ScaredStreit]

If you don't think that McKenzie and Dreger are credible-honestly it's going to be hard to find anybody that is. Nobody can be 100% right all of the time-but those 2 are pretty darn good.

 

[Darth Milbury]

If you don't think that McKenzie and Dreger are credible-honestly it's going to be hard to find anybody that is. Nobody can be 100% right all of the time-but those 2 are pretty darn good.

Not when it comes to the Island. Dreger, in all the years I've been following him, has NEVER broken a story on the Islanders. In fact, year after year, he stokes all sorts of ridiculous rumors by leading with "it is believe that..." or "Isles and Leafs have had a conversation about..."

Mackenzie, I have a world of respect for. He did predict the Isles would pass on Tavares thought and also was one of the lead figures in the Luongo rumors this summer.

I consider neither to be trustworthy, with specific regard to the Islanders.

 

[Darth Milbury]

When she was at Newsday it was obvious she was being fed stories by the Isles. You could also infer that in Botta's tone/tweets back in the day that he was hyping her up skills/qualities above her assignment.

She did break the Nino story though.

 

[Brunomics]

None, the coverage of this team is terrible. If they had actual coverage that held this teams feet to the fire in the media it might potentially have an effect on how this *** franchise handles some issues.

 

[leeroggy]

I have been soundly unimpressed by both Dreger and Mackenzie (gasp!) when it comes to the Islanders. Too many reports in which the source is "it is believed that...." (in other word, Darren and Bob sitting around the water cooler writing down what they personally think could happen).

Also, really unimpressed by Elliote Friedman. I know he is widely respected, but even if you go back before this summer's Dipietro stuff, there are multiple instances of him practically making stuff up or wildly speculating.

So, my questions is, beyond Staple (who I give credit for just presenting cold hard data without wild speculations), what sources provide reasonable info about the Isles?

I think you answered your own question, there really is no one else. I've never experienced anything like it. This makes Bill Belichick look open and transparent.

What's also interesting is how close lipped those who LEFT the organization are too. You'd think there would have been some interesting inside info from those people.

Even Nino clammed up after he was traded.

 

[IslesNorway]

The thing with the Islanders is that they have a GM who tries his best to hide from the media all season long. Garth never speaks to anyone unless he really has to and I don't think anyone really has a clue of what he is up to, hence the lack of credible sources. Sometimes he feeds little snippets to the likes of Strang or Staple but little more than that.

 

[CREW99AW]

I find Staple , McKenzie and Eliiott Friedman to be the most credible of the bunch. Dreger has lost all.credibility imo and comes across more as a Leaf fanboy then objective reporter. His cousin is the Leafs gm.

He took Kadri+Franson to task a few months ago, when they rejected the Leaf extensions. He basically feeds leaf fans the rumors they want fo hear: sure there is interesting in Liles.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

This organization is run in a real shady manner so I never trust a report regardless of who is reporting it until 100% confirmed by staple or the team or one of the major national reporters. Anyone who claims to have an in on how the islanders are thinking is just guessing, aside from staple who I think just assumes things.

 

[CREW99AW]

>>>>>>>

 

[Pnut]

The thing with the Islanders is that they have a GM who tries his best to hide from the media all season long. Garth never speaks to anyone unless he really has to and I don't think anyone really has a clue of what he is up to, hence the lack of credible sources. Sometimes he feeds little snippets to the likes of Strang or Staple but little more than that.

What the heck? Do you want him to talk to the media? What advantage does that give him or this franchise? Do you want him to try and bully other GMs (or give the appearance of bullying) to get players? Like a certain ex-GM tried with Snow to get JT?

I want answers!

 

[ScaredStreit]

Not when it comes to the Island. Dreger, in all the years I've been following him, has NEVER broken a story on the Islanders. In fact, year after year, he stokes all sorts of ridiculous rumors by leading with "it is believe that..." or "Isles and Leafs have had a conversation about..."

Mackenzie, I have a world of respect for. He did predict the Isles would pass on Tavares thought and also was one of the lead figures in the Luongo rumors this summer.

I consider neither to be trustworthy, with specific regard to the Islanders.

In all fairness the McKenzie/Tavares draft was a prediction-not a rumor/report that turned out to be false. There's a difference.

And Snow keeps EVERYTHING very close. You never hear 1 peep out of him about anything (maybe because Wang tells him to, maybe because he doesn't call the shots in the first place). You can't expect anybody to be an accurate reporter on the Isles (unless they get the info from a different GM in the league).

 

[teknics]

Isles keep it close to the vest. Their management team is so small (intentionally for $ and control reasons) that it limits the liklihood of 'leaks' on personnel.

The management team is no different than any other teams.

I speak from dealings with them.

 

[JTforPres2012]

Eric Hornick always provides very interesting statistics and his "Skinny" is a good read.

Other than that, there have been a ton of bloggers that have seemed to sprout up especially this year, but to be honest, it seems like they just write very opinionated stuff and seem rather clueless.

 

[Strome18]

Best sources are Insider, Entertainment tonight, TMZ.

For insider information "Meet the Flintstones".

 

[Darth Milbury]

In all fairness the McKenzie/Tavares draft was a prediction-not a rumor/report that turned out to be false. There's a difference.

And Snow keeps EVERYTHING very close. You never hear 1 peep out of him about anything (maybe because Wang tells him to, maybe because he doesn't call the shots in the first place). You can't expect anybody to be an accurate reporter on the Isles (unless they get the info from a different GM in the league).

I understand. But, when has a Mackenzie prediction turned out correct? I just don't think he has sources that really give him a bead on the Isles.

 

[ScaredStreit]

I understand. But, when has a Mackenzie prediction turned out correct? I just don't think he has sources that really give him a bead on the Isles.

I agree with that. But I also think that nobody really does.

 

[redbull]

I find Staple , McKenzie and Eliiott Friedman to be the most credible of the bunch. Dreger has lost all.credibility imo and comes across more as a Leaf fanboy then objective reporter. His cousin is the Leafs gm.

He took Kadri+Franson to task a few months ago, when they rejected the Leaf extensions. He basically feeds leaf fans the rumors they want fo hear: sure there is interesting in Liles.

Dreger is still credible though, he's got sources.

Kypreos still has sources but I don't think ANYONE has NYI sources except Staple. Hornick has a nice twitter feed with Isles news. Dan Friedman tweets a lot about the Islanders and covers some practices but I don't believe he's got any direct line to Garth or Capuano.

I think it's Wang, Snow and Wang Jr as the circle of trust, with Capuano and Weight just outside, then Staple.

On Hockey in general, McKenzie's outstanding. I'd say Friedman and Dreger/Kypreos are next, then a sprinkling of wannabes like Healy, Ferraro, Shannon, etc.

 

[CREW99AW]

Dreger is still credible though, he's got sources.

Kypreos still has sources but I don't think ANYONE has NYI sources except Staple. Hornick has a nice twitter feed with Isles news. Dan Friedman tweets a lot about the tIslanders and covers some practices but I don't believe he's gt any direct line to Garth or Capuano.

I think it's Wang, Snow and Wang Jr as the circle of trust, with Capuano and Weight just outside, then Staple.

On Hockey in general, McKenzie's outstanding. I'd say Friedman and Dreger/Kypreos are next, then a sprinkling of wannabes like Healy, Ferraro, Shannon, etc.

I'll have to check out Hornick's twitter feed.