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Yup... We go from too many when Daccord was in the ECHL to not enough now.What is happening with our goalies? Is Daccord injured as well?
YepBatherson and [PLACEHOLDER] seem to have some real chemistry
I didnt understand that initially lol. Yes, Batherson is awesome, I agree.Yep
Edit: Dont get me wrong I think both Batherson and Norris are going to be exciting players
Anderson will be on the first flight to Florida after the last game. That is where his family is and that is where they will stay. He may come here for the occasional alumni function, etc., but that will be that.
Brannstrom's injury is a real kick in the shorts. He needs to come back and have a good playoff to redeem his season. Otherwise, you have to consider this year to be a massive disappointment for his development. He really failed to take the next step, and never has looked like the dominant force in generating offense that a young EK was. He's only 20, adjusting to North America, defencemen take longer, blah blah blah, but the excitement of acquiring him has long since worn off...
It looked like Norris didn't even try in the fight... Gave the other guy a headstart and then started beating down on him.
Why do people get so caught up in comparing Brannstrom to Karlsson?
Karlsson is a two time Norris trophy winner and imo up until injury knocked him down a bit was on his way to a generational career
Brannstrom was acquired for Mark Stone. Stone is a good player. But he's not generational. He's not hall of fame calibre. He's not even an elie offensive player. Stone's going to have a 5 year run as one of the best two way players in the game. That's his peak. Is the peak worth holding Brannstrom to a Karlsson standard?
Well, for one, they were drafted at the same spot, 15th overall, in their respective drafts, are both under six feet, and from the same country. The comparisons are inevitable. They are also both smaller defencemen built for today's NHL who rely who on skill, speed and vision to be effective. Brannstrom was also ranked as one of the best prospects outside the NHL when we traded for him, so he was clearly expected by many to be an elite NHL defenceman for years to come. Hence Dorion's "proudest day" comment. Many felt that Vegas, as we did with Karlsson then Chabot, got themselves a mid-first round steal who would actually perform more like a top five pick. So yes, my expectations for Brannstrom were sky high, and I expected him to come in this year and be in the conversation for the Calder. Is that unfair? Not for a guy with his pre-billing, and not for a guy who got traded for Mark Stone.
As for Mark Stone, he is a point a game player who is consistently one of the league leaders in takeaways, and consistently a puck possession monster, with a Corsi consistentlin the high 50s throughout his career. Guys who play defence like that and who can also score are basically unicorns - you just can't find them. If and when you finally do find one you keep them forever, as Boston has with Bergeron. Not only did we find and develop one, we decided to trade him away, and in his prime no less. Stone demonstrated how elite he was at the Worlds a few years ago, when he won MVP in a tournament held on international ice. (So much for the "Stone can't skate" narrative.) He should have won a few Selkes by now if the voters hadn't decided in recent years that you need to be a centre in order to qualify. On every short list for Team Canada for 2022 in Bejing (if we go), he's on it. He's one of the rare guys actually earning his big ticket contract right now, and on top of all of that he is a leader on and off the ice. And we traded him. So yes, the guy we got in exchange for him is going to be held to a tough standard. And if Brannstrom ends up being a great top four defenceman in this league who roughly equals Stone in value, I will happily come here, grab a knife and fork, and eat my plate of crow, because all I have ever wanted is to see the Ottawa Senators win the Cup some time before I die...
Why do people get so caught up in comparing Brannstrom to Karlsson?
Karlsson is a two time Norris trophy winner and imo up until injury knocked him down a bit was on his way to a generational career
Brannstrom was acquired for Mark Stone. Stone is a good player. But he's not generational. He's not hall of fame calibre. He's not even an elite offensive player. Stone's going to have a 5 year run as one of the best two way players in the game. That's his peak. Is the peak worth holding Brannstrom to a Karlsson standard?
Anyone that compares Brannstrom to Karlsson has no clue what they are watching. It has nothing to do with nationality, name or where they are drafted. Its about watching the players and evaluating them, they simply arent in the same tier. I think a best case scenario for Brannstrom is that of Kimo Timmonen, I strugle to think of any d men that are that size that have had long careers that arent offensive dynamos.
You really gotta stop with the anti Stone stuff, please stop suggesting Stone is regressing he keeps getting better. Its a completely false narrative you always bring up to try and prove your point. Stone is a top 25 player in the league the best player on a contender and a top 3 defensive forward in hockey. Every single metric and the eye test shows that he makes players around him dramatically better. What he brings from a character, leadership and passion impact he and Karlsson really arent far off from a value perspecitve. Stones posession stats are close to the best in the NHL of any forward. I think given what Brannstrom has looked like people have the right to be concerned given what he was traded for. For me I just hope he is an NHL player, if you are a 5'9 D man you have to be one heck of a puck mover to play in this league. I really hope we see more from him next season. I like to take the long approach with all players but I really am not a fan of undersized D men who arent elite skaters.