Bear of Bad News
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- Sep 27, 2005
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Maybe it's just me, but seeing as this is my first year of hockey I'm not really sure what the standard is. I have noticed that, for a recreational league, there is a lot of chippy stuff that doesn't get called. Is this just because refs miss it or because they think it's ok? I'm not sure, but as a beginner it can get pretty frustrating when I'm hauled down, slashed, high sticked, or flat out bodychecked and nothing is called (especially since I'm still learning a lot).
I'll admit, I play down sometimes 'cause I have friends that play in low divisions so I help if they're short. Won't ever play a playoff game.
But, there's an etiquette to being a "ringer." Don't showboat, I've had guys get way more mad at showboating than just putting your head down and skating hard. And passing should always be your first, second and third look. And, since I'm a defenseman, I mainly just play the front of the net, not the guy with the puck.
Showed up at 7:30 for a game at 8:20, only to find out that the game was moved back to 8:50. League never sent an e-mail or gave anyone a heads up...coulda been watchin the 1st of the chicago/boston game.
I'll admit, I play down sometimes 'cause I have friends that play in low divisions so I help if they're short. Won't ever play a playoff game.
But, there's an etiquette to being a "ringer." Don't showboat, I've had guys get way more mad at showboating than just putting your head down and skating hard. And passing should always be your first, second and third look. And, since I'm a defenseman, I mainly just play the front of the net, not the guy with the puck.
should these refs be disciplined for letting the game get so out of hand? imo if they had just gotten rid of the guy who tried to fight the time keeper a lot less would have happened and the refs sure as hell let a lot go during the game. we've had these refs for the last 3 games and they've been brutal every time. i should really recommend my team's captain goes and requests different refs for our games because they're totally ruining the games for us.
Out of curiosity, what would be your idea of 'disciplined'?
Why they didn't kick the guy out for trying to fight the scorekeeper is beyond me. Had I been the scorekeeper, I wouldn't have continued with the guy still in the game.
haha i have no idea it was just the first word that came to mind because of how often it gets used with the nhl.
i think there's gotta be something done but i have no idea what could possibly be done. only thing i can hope for is to not see these refs again, but they do this with their own free time, i'm sure they could find somewhere else to ref if the league stopped using them. that or the league couldn't stop using them because they'd then have to find new refs. idk. send them down a level lmao. at least the league usually separates the teams that have these incidents so we shouldn't run into the same team again at least for a while.
and yeah i was really pissed about that because i time keep for lacrosse and if any player went after me in the box the ref would come right in, stop the game and throw the player out. felt really bad for the guy.
I'm probably what would be considered a ringer. I'm playing in the EJ/USPHL next year, on a path to the NA and then college. My sister's team is too good for the women's league in the area, so they moved into a men's league for a challenge. They asked me to play, so I do. I usually play a physical defense, so I decided to play wing for this. I'm an awful forward, but still am, more often than not, the best player on the ice. That being said, I don't showboat or anything like that and my philosophy is always pass first. No cherrypicking and I don't deke around the D for breakaways. One thing that pisses me off to no end is the guys who decide that no one in the world can be better than them. I almost had to be stretchered off of the ice because a guy I was playing against decided to run me from behind while I was fishing the puck out of a dead spot in the ice. I ended up skating off under my own power without any serious injuries (a neck sprain and a fractured ring finger somehow) but that really pissed me off.I'll admit, I play down sometimes 'cause I have friends that play in low divisions so I help if they're short. Won't ever play a playoff game.
But, there's an etiquette to being a "ringer." Don't showboat, I've had guys get way more mad at showboating than just putting your head down and skating hard. And passing should always be your first, second and third look. And, since I'm a defenseman, I mainly just play the front of the net, not the guy with the puck.
I'm probably what would be considered a ringer. I'm playing in the EJ/USPHL next year, on a path to the NA and then college. My sister's team is too good for the women's league in the area, so they moved into a men's league for a challenge. They asked me to play, so I do. I usually play a physical defense, so I decided to play wing for this. I'm an awful forward, but still am, more often than not, the best player on the ice. That being said, I don't showboat or anything like that and my philosophy is always pass first. No cherrypicking and I don't deke around the D for breakaways. One thing that pisses me off to no end is the guys who decide that no one in the world can be better than them. I almost had to be stretchered off of the ice because a guy I was playing against decided to run me from behind while I was fishing the puck out of a dead spot in the ice. I ended up skating off under my own power without any serious injuries (a neck sprain and a fractured ring finger somehow) but that really pissed me off.
It absolutely makes sense. I understand that sometimes I do embarrass people. That being said, it's not like I'll just go out there, make everyone look stupid, and whine about the small contact or holds and stuff like that. That particular situation stuck out to me though because he had been throwing elbows at me all game. I consciously decided to embarrass him because of that. He crossed some lines with me, so I crossed a line with him. Probably not the smartest thing to do in retrospect...This is where i think the problem lies. I think its a super fine line. I don't mind if people are better than me, but if they're so much better its apparent they're in the wrong league, it can be extremely embarrassing and frustrating. Even though you may not be stick handling through everyone, etc, its still pretty apparent in most cases that guys are playing in the wrong league. By no means am i saying what he did was even remotely close to acceptable, i just think there has to be a lot more understanding from both sides.
I think its a lot like slow play in golf. If you ask anyone if they're a slow player, he (or she) will say no. But plenty of other guys will say he's slow. If I asked a ringer if he thought he was embarrassing the other guys on the ice, he'd probably say no, but i bet there would be a few guys on the other team who felt like they were being taken advantage off. And If you asked the other team if they were being too rough because of a ringer, they'd probably say no, while the team with the ringer absolutely believes they were.
I really hope that analogy makes sense. I've read it so many times it sounds weird regardless.
Refs calling the game early! WTF I paid for this **** and we're down a goal and some chippiness happens and the refs decide to call the game when there is a minute left! DAFAUQ IS THAT?