Nikishin Go Boom
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Confirmed with Link: Bear 18% retained and C Pederson for a 5th
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spockBokk
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Depending on how much they’re retaining, they might have been better off just waiving him.
cptjeff
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I'll wait to see the full details, but Bear didn't play great for us and not at all this year. Not sure why the return should be amazing. I'm just glad to get something and move on.
Nikishin Go Boom
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Should have just waived him in December at this point
AhosDatsyukian
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Pederson is nothing, 5th is pretty much nothing. So we cleared a little bit of cap by giving away a guy who wasn't playing anyways. A bit "meh" but also better than just keeping him on the roster if we were never gonna play him.
I hope he succeeds in his career, he seems like a good dude and does have NHL talent in my opinion.
Edit: also, just saw that Vancouver has about 230k less cap space than Bear's cap hit so I'm guessing that is all that we retained, in which case I have no issues with the retaining to get a deal done if it's that low.
I hope he succeeds in his career, he seems like a good dude and does have NHL talent in my opinion.
Edit: also, just saw that Vancouver has about 230k less cap space than Bear's cap hit so I'm guessing that is all that we retained, in which case I have no issues with the retaining to get a deal done if it's that low.
cptjeff
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Shoulda just let him go in free agency. Paying what we did to qualify him was mistake number one.
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I was told we were getting Hoglander.
1/10 trade. NHL 23 trade logic sux.
1/10 trade. NHL 23 trade logic sux.
Nikishin Go Boom
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In hindsight sure but no one predicted Chatfield would be this way. If so, we would have.
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This is where I'm at. It backfired to keep him ultimately. They got something and moved on. I know some think any RD is worth their weight in gold, but clearly not.
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Resigning Bear was a hedge, not a mistake. That hedge is no longer needed. Get some cap space back, move on.
cptjeff
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I dispute that. Quite a lot of us thought Chatfield looked great during his stint last year and were wondering why on earth we weren't calling him up at the end of the season instead of playing guys like Bear and Cole.
Just posted in another thread:
Throwing this out there with no knowledge whatsoever.
Perhaps it's become a distraction for the team. Not saying Bear is outwardly bitching and moaning but he's probably not Mr Happy Go Lucky in practice and locker room.
Sometimes you have to lose to win.
Or I'm just full of the Bo's Cajun biscuit I had for lunch.
Throwing this out there with no knowledge whatsoever.
Perhaps it's become a distraction for the team. Not saying Bear is outwardly bitching and moaning but he's probably not Mr Happy Go Lucky in practice and locker room.
Sometimes you have to lose to win.
Or I'm just full of the Bo's Cajun biscuit I had for lunch.
That 5th round pick will be traded for 2 6ths which will be traded for 4 7ths which will be traded for 8 2024 7ths. We just acquired 25% of an entire round of a draft for Ethan Bear.
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AhosDatsyukian
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Agree, we didn't know exactly what we had in Coghlan after the trade and probably didn't expect to get DeHaan back for so cheap. Both are looking solid, and while we had a sneak peak at Chatfield last year and clearly liked him a lot based on the contract we gave him, we did need to see how he played this year too and he did great in camp and so far in the regular season. I like Bear but we're in a good spot now.
Nikishin Go Boom
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He was protected more last season than Gardiner was when he was healthy. Its not hard to look good when you over 60% O zone draw.
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He had a rough year last year and played like dogshit in the preseason and then didn't get to play this season. Either the Hoglander stuff was BS, they decided he didn't fit the plans, or they didn't want to add more to get him. But Bear clearly didn't have a ton of value based on the return on the Buffalo rumor of them not wanting to give anything.
cptjeff
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And we were giving Bear ridiculously sheltered minutes when we played him after the initial experiment with Slavin was over, so the comparison to Bear remains perfectly valid.
Bear as a hedge for Coghlan and not knowing about DeHaan is entirely valid. Bear as a hedge for Chatfield makes extremely little sense.
Hoglander was always a fantasy.
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Pederson is also a one way deal I think. Doesn't help the cap, but they are probably happy not to pay that for an AHLer. Doubt they every really wanted him all that much.
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We should've just sold Lane to the crazy paperboy for two dollars.
Nikishin Go Boom
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5v5 Ozone start percentage last season
Chatfield: 66.2
Bear 55.3
Bear went up 2% after the Slavin experiment.
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Yeah, qualifying him to begin with was a mistake. We should have just cut our losses and let him go. That said, a 5th is (slightly) better than nothing.
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wut?
Also, not to be lost, but I really liked Bear and wanted him to work out. I really thought he would and it was good to acquire him. I hope this situation works well for him.
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