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The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

Now on a 6 hour clock.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25
One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trades - No trades after the draft has commenced!
Swapping your entire set of draft picks with another GM before either of you has made a single pick is allowed, however.

Trade list here: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=95820823&postcount=2

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 10 day period for lineup assassinations. Assassinations will be divided by division.

6). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

7). All Teams make the playoffs. The conferences will be divided into two divisions of 8 each. The first round of the playoffs will feature four intra-divisional matchups in each division, after which the remaining teams will compete in divisional semifinals (standard high vs. low seed) and divisional finals rounds. Winners of the divisions will meet in the conference finals, and winners of the conference will meet in the draft finals.

8). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

9). PM the next team after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

DEDUCTIONS:
Billyshoe1721 - 2 hours
BraveCanadian - 2 hours
Hawkey Town 18 - 1 hour
Hawkman & Hedberg - 1 hour
Modo - 1 hour
nik jr - 1 hour
Reds4Life and Evil Sather - 1 hour
Sdrawkcab321 - 1 hour
Stoneberg and Rmartin - 2 hours

2015 Draft Order

Round 1

1. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Bobby Orr, D
2. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mario Lemieux, C
4. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Gordie Howe, RW
5. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Doug Harvey, D
6. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jean Beliveau, C
7. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Bobby Hull, LW
8. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Raymond Bourque, D
9. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Eddie Shore, D
10. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
11. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Stan Mikita, C
12. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Denis Potvin, D
13. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Maurice Richard, RW
14. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Patrick Roy, G
15. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Larry Robinson, D
16. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jaromir Jagr, RW
17. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Red Kelly, D/C
18. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Dominik Hasek, G
19. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Mark Messier, C
20. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Howie Morenz, C
21. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Bobby Clarke, C
22. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Guy Lafleur, RW
23. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Slava Fetisov, D
24. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Chris Chelios, D
25. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Frank Nighbor, C
26. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Steve Yzerman, C
27. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Phil Esposito, C
28. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Brad Park, D
29. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Bryan Trottier, C
30. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Joe Sakic, C
31. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Paul Coffey, D
32. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Jacques Plante, G

Round 2

33. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Pierre Pilote, D
34. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Ted Lindsay, LW
35. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
36. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Mike Bossy, RW
37. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Bill Cook, RW
38. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - King Clancy, D
39. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Zdeno Chara, D
40. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Al MacInnis, D
41. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Sergei Makarov, RW
42. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
43. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Earl Seibert, D
44. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Sprague Cleghorn, D
45. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Scott Stevens, D
46. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Tim Horton, D
47. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Newsy Lalonde, C
48. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Syl Apps, C
49. Dwight - West Island Lions - Chris Pronger, D
50. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Milt Schmidt, C
51. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Frank Boucher, C
52. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Bill Gadsby, D
53. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Marcel Dionne, C
54. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
55. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Sidney Crosby, C
56. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Glenn Hall, G
57. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Brian Leetch, D
58. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Borje Salming, D
59. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Valeri Vasiliev, D
60. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Henri Richard, C
61. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Dit Clapper, D/RW
62. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bill Quackenbush, D
63. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Charlie Conacher, RW
64. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Bernie Geoffrion, RW

Round 3

65. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Peter Forsberg, C
66. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Terry Sawchuk, G
67. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jari Kurri, RW
68. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ted Kennedy, C
69. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Martin Brodeur, G
70. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Guy Lapointe, D
71. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Andy Bathgate, RW
72. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Sergei Fedorov, C
73. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Doug Gilmour, C
74. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Dickie Moore, LW
75. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Mark Howe, D
76. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Teemu Selanne, RW
77. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Elmer Lach, C
78. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Ken Dryden, G
79. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Brett Hull, RW
80. Dwight - West Island Lions - Scott Niedermayer, D
81. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Serge Savard, D
82. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Frank Mahovlich, LW
83. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Rod Langway, D
84. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Martin St. Louis, RW
85. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Cy Denneny, LW
86. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Max Bentley, C
87. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Aurele Joliat, LW
88. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Doug Bentley, LW/C
89. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Boris Mikhailov, RW
90. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Jarome Iginla, RW
91. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Vladislav Tretiak, G
92. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Norm Ullman, C
93. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Marcel Pronovost, D
94. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Sid Abel, C
95. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Toe Blake, LW
96. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Alex Delvecchio, C/LW

Round 4

97. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Joe Malone, C/LW
98. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Johnny Bucyk, LW
99. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Jack Stewart, D
100. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Rob Blake, D
101. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Ron Francis, C
102. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Eddie Gerard, D
103. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Tony Esposito, G
104. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Busher Jackson, LW
105. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Cam Neely, RW
106. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bryan Hextall, Sr, RW
107. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Ivan "Ching" Johnson, D
108. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Frank "Mr. Zero" Brimsek, G
109. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Alexei Kasatonov, D
110. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Pavel Bure, RW
111. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Georges Boucher, D
112. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Reginald "Hooley" Smith, C/RW
113. Dwight - West Island Lions - Brendan Shanahan, LW
114. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Anatoli Firsov, LW
115. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - William "Hod" Stuart, D
116. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Tommy Phillips, W
117. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Luc Robitaille, LW
118. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Jacques Laperrière, D
119. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
120. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Charles Albert "Babe" Siebert, D/LW
121. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Dave Keon, C
122. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Syd Howe, LW/C
123. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Gilbert Perreault, C
124. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - JC Tremblay, D
125. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
126. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Emile "Butch" Bouchard, D
127. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Lionel Conacher, D
128. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Georges Vezina, G

Round 5

129. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D
130. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Sweeney Schriner, LW
131. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Michel Goulet, LW
132. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Paul Kariya, LW
133. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Bill Cowley, C
134. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW
135. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Jan Suchý, D
136. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Carl Brewer, D
137. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Rick Middleton, RW
138. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Larry Murphy, D
139. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Charlie Gardiner, G
140. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Doug Wilson, D
141. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Tom Johnson, D
142. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Peter Stastny, C
143. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Sylvio Mantha,D
144. Dwight - West Island Lions - Joe Thornton, C
145. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Pavel Datsyuk, C
146. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Bert Olmstead, LW
147. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Adam Oates, C
148. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - John LeClair, LW
149. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Vladimir Martinec, RW
150. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Clint Benedict, G
151. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Eric Lindros, C
152. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Evgeni Malkin, C
153. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Art Coulter, D
154. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
155. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Mark Recchi, RW
156. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Woody Dumart, LW
157. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Jean Ratelle, C
158. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Frantisek Pospisil, D
159. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Bill White, D
160. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Mike Modano, C

Round 6

161. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Fern Flaman, D
162. Nalyd Pyscho - Boston Bandits - Lester Patrick, D
163. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Ed Belfour, G
164. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Bernie Parent, G
165. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ken Reardon, D
166. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Marty Barry, C
167. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Ilya Kovalchuk, W
168. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Walter "Turk" Broda, G
169. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Roy Conacher, LW
170. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Harry Cameron, D
171. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Allan Stanley, D
172. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Duncan Keith, D
173. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bill Durnan, G
174. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Marian Hossa, RW
175. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Art Ross, D
176. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Patrik Elias, LW
177. Dwight - West Island Lions - Mickey Mackay, C
178. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Harry Howell, D
179. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Shea Weber, D
180. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Jimmy Thomson, D
181. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Dale Hawerchuk, C
182. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
183. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Nels Stewart, C
184. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Reg Noble, LW/C/D
185. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Bun Cook, LW
186. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Harvey Pulford, D
187. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Babe Dye, RW
188. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Paul Thompson, LW
189. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Johnny Bower, G
190. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Grant Fuhr, G
191. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Sergei Zubov, D
192. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Wayne Cashman, LW

Round 7

193. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Vladimir Petrov, C
194. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Eric Desjardins, D
195. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Hap Day, D
196. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Herb Gardiner, D
197. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Pat Stapleton, D
198. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Rick Martin, LW
199. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Frank Fredrickson, C
200. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Harry "Punch" Broadbent, RW
201. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Red Horner, D
202. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Roy Worters, G
203. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Brad McCrimmon, D
204. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Billy Smith, G
205. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Alexander Yakushev, LW
206. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Didier Pitre, RW/D
207. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Denis Savard, C
208. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jiri Holecek, G
209. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Vaclav Nedomasky, C/RW
210. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Theoren Fleury, RW
211. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Alexander Ragulin, D
212. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jacques Lemaire, C
213. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Ott Heller, D
214. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Bill Barber, LW
215. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
216. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Elmer "Moose" Vasko, D
217. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Lionel Hitchman, D
218. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Mats Sundin, C
219. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Markus Naslund, LW
220. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
221. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Rod Gilbert, RW
222. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Zigmund Palffy, RW
223. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Frank Foyston, F
224. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Babe Pratt, D

Round 8

225. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Claude Provost, RW
226. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Keith Tkachuk, LW
227. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Jack Crawford, D
228. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Clark Gillies, LW
229. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Mike Grant, D
230. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Jere Lehtinen, W
231. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Sergei Gonchar, D
232. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Guy Carbonneau, C
233. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Vladimir Krutov, LW
234. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Hugh Lehman, G
235. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Jim Neilson, D
236. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
237. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bob Baun, D
238. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Cecil "Tiny" Thompson, G
239. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Jack Walker, F
240. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - George Hainsworth, G
241. Dwight - West Island Lions - Cecil Dillon, RW
242. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Bob Gainey, LW
243. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Russell "Dubbie" Bowie, C
244. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Helmuts Balderis, RW
245. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Gary Suter, D
246. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Brian Propp, LW
247. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Derian Hatcher, D
248. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Lanny McDonald, RW
249. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Gordie Drillon, RW
250. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Glenn Anderson, RW
251. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Doug Mohns, D/LW
252. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Steve Larmer, RW
253. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Darryl Sittler, C
254. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Igor Larionov, C
255. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Gus Mortson, D.
256. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C/LW

Round 9

257. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Bernie Morris, RW/C
258. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Lawrence "Baldy" Northcott, LW
259. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Si Griffis, D
260. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Dany Heatley, W
261. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Larry Aurie, RW
262. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Art Duncan, D
263. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Walt Tkaczuk, C
264. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Dean Prentice, LW
265. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Gordon "Duke" Keats, C
266. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Craig Ramsay, LW
267. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Alf Smith, RW
268. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - John Tonelli, LW
269. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Jeremy Roenick, C
270. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Terry Harper, D
271. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Bobby Bauer, RW
272. Dwight - West Island Lions - Cy Wentworth, D
273. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Bob Goldham, D
274. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Mike Ramsey, D
275. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Dan Boyle, D
276. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rousseau, RW
277. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Bob Pulford, LW/C
278. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Bill Mosienko, RW
279. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jim Schoenfeld, D
280. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Marty Pavelich, LW
281. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Herbie Lewis, LW
282. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Leo Boivin, D
283. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Steven Stamkos, C
284. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Steve Shutt, LW
285. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Adam Foote, D
286. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Daniel Sedin, LW
287. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - George Armstrong, RW
288. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Joe Primeau, C

Round 10

289. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Ace Bailey, RW
290. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Joe Klukay, W
291. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Phil Housley, D
292. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Michael Peca, C
293. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Ken Hodge, RW
294. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Patrick Kane, RW
295. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Drew Doughty, D
296. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Flash Hollett, D
297. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tony Leswick, LW/RW
298. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Neil Colville, C/D
299. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Gump Worsley, G
300. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Leo Reise, Jr., D
301. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Scotty Bowman, Coach
302. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Henrik Sedin, C
303. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Ryan Getzlaf, C
304. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Ed Westfall, RW
305. Dwight - West Island Lions - Barry Beck, D
306. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Cooney Weiland, C
307. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Red Dutton, D
308. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Joe Hall, D
309. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Alexander Mogilny, RW
310. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Pat LaFontaine, C
311. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Phil Watson, C/RW
312. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Dave Andreychuk, LW/C
313. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Kevin Lowe, D
314. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - George Hay, LW
315. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Nick Metz, LW
316. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Lloyd Cook, D
317. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Pit Lepine, C
318. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mike Gartner, RW
319. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Milan Novy, C
320. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - "Bullet Joe" Simpson, D

Round 11

321. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Ted Green, D
322. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ralph Backstrom, C
323. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Sid Smith, LW
324. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Dave Taylor, RW
325. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Don McKenney, C
326. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Tommy Dunderdale, C
327. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Frank Finnigan, RW
328. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Peter Bondra, RW
329. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Ulf Samuelsson, D
330. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Frank Patrick, D
331. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Don Luce, C
332. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Al Arbour, Coach
333. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Jonathan Toews, C
334. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Odie Cleghorn, RW
335. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Jean Guy Talbot, D
336. Dwight - West Island Lions - Kevin Stevens, LW
337. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Gordon Roberts, LW
338. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Patrice Bergeron, C
339. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Toe Blake, Coach
340. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brian Rafalski, D
341. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Joe Mullen, RW
342. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Joel Otto, C
343. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vic Stasiuk, LW/RW
344. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ryan Suter, D
345. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Jiri Holik, LW
346. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Gary Roberts, LW
347. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Andrei Markov, D
348. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Dick Duff, LW
349. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Tommy Ivan, Coach
350. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Eddie Oatman, RW/D
351. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Teppo Numminen, D
352. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Vitaly Davydov, D

Round 12

353. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Esa Tikkanen, LW
354. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Claude Lemieux, RW/LW
355. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Don Marcotte, F
356. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Dino Ciccarelli, RW
357. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Carol Vadnais, D
358. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Smokey Harris, LW
359. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Butch Goring, C
360. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
361. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Shane Doan, RW/LW
362. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Johnny Gottselig, LW
363. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Lester Patrick, coach
364. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Fred Shero, Coach
365. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Anze Kopitar, C
366. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Charlie Simmer, LW
367. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Bob Nevin, RW
368. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Randy Carlyle, D
369. Dwight - West Island Lions - Don Marshall, LW
370. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Vladimir Shadrin, C
371. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Jimmy Watson, D
372. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Ron Ellis, RW
373. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Doug Jarvis, C
374. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Dirk Graham, W
375. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Harry Watson, LW
376. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Frank McGee, C
377. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Vincent Damphousse, LW/C
378. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Gary Bergman, D
379. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Dave Burrows, D
380. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Lynn Patrick, LW
381. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Anatoli Tarasov, coach
382. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Pat Egan, D
383. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Glen Sather, Coach
384. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Dallas Smith, D

Round 13

385. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Cecil Hart, Coach
386. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - John Madden, C/LW
387. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wendel Clark, LW
388. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Lennart Svedberg, D
389. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Bobby Rowe, D
390. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jean Pronovost, RW
391. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Tom Barrasso, G
392. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Dave Poulin, C
393. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Derek Sanderson, C
394. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Danny Gare, RW
395. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Bill Hajt, D
396. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Brian Sutter, LW
397. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Dick Irvin Sr., Coach
398. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Corey Perry, RW
399. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Tommy Gorman, Coach
400. Dwight - West Island Lions - Blair Russel, C/RW
401. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Bernie Federko, C
402. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Kimmo Timonen, D
403. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Eduard Ivanov, D
404. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Stefan Persson, D
405. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
406. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Kirk Muller, C/LW
407. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Hap Day, coach
408. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Taffy Abel, D
409. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Rene Robert, RW
410. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Rick Nash, LW
411. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Tod Sloan C/RW
412. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Harry Hyland, RW
413. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Paul Reinhart, D
414. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Ken Mosdell, C
415. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Pete Mahovlich, C
416. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Phil Goyette, C

Round 14

417. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Tim Kerr, RW
418. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Rick Tocchet, RW
419. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Kevin Hatcher, D
420. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Ken Morrow, D
421. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Bruce Stuart, F
422. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Reijo Ruotsalainen, D
423. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Marian Gaborik, RW
424. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Jack Darragh, RW
425. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Brent Sutter, C
426. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Red Sullivan, C
427. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Rob Ramage, D
428. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Patrick Marleau, LW/C
429. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Gaye Stewart, LW
430. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Edgar Laprade, C
431. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - James Patrick, D
432. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Jack Adams, C
433. Dwight - West Island Lions - Eric Nesterenko, RW
434. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Henrik Lundqvist, G
435. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Gennady Tsygankov, D
436. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Chuck Rayner, G
437. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Craig Hartsburg, D
438. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Craig Ludwig, D
439. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Fleming Mackell, C/LW
440. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Pete Green, Coach
441. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Mike Babcock, Coach
442. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Adam Graves, LW
443. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Harry Lumley, G
444. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Jimmy Ward, RW
445. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Vladimir Vikulov, RW
446. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - J. P. Parise, LW
447. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bill Guerin, RW
448. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Ed Litzenberger RW/C

Round 15

449. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Pavol Demitra C/LW
450. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
451. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dale Hunter, C
452. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Glen Harmon, D
453. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Dave Balon, LW
454. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Brad Richards, C
455. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Brian Rolston, F
456. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Rick MacLeish, C
457. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Barclay Plager, D
458. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Joel Quenneville, Coach
459. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Zach Parise, LW
460. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Mats Naslund, LW
461. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Sergei Kapustin, LW
462. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Owen Nolan, RW
463. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Rusty Crawford, LW/C
464. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tony Amonte, RW
465. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Gilles Tremblay, LW
466. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Arkady Chernyshev, Coach
467. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Mel Bridgman C/LW
468. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Fred Stanfield, C
469. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Marty Walsh, C
470. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Bobby Smith, C
471. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Tommy Smith, C/LW
472. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Reed Larson, D
473. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Igor Liba, LW
474. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Pat Burns, Coach
475. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Wally Stanowski, D
476. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Mike Keenan, Coach
477. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Yvon Lambert, LW/C
478. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Bob Johnson, coach
479. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Pierre Turgeon, C
480. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Johnny Peirson, RW

Round 16

481. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Yuri Liapkin, D
482. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Erik Karlsson, D
483. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Ted Harris, D
484. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Vic Hadfield, LW
485. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Bernie Nicholls, C
486. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Keith Primeau, C
487. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Todd Bertuzzi, W
488. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Bucko McDonald, D
489. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Lars-Erik Sjoberg, D
490. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Wilf Paiement, RW
491. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Floyd Curry, RW
492. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - John McKenzie, RW
493. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Steve Smith, D
494. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Patrick Sharp, F
495. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Bob Bourne
496. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Bert Corbeau, D
497. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jiri Bubla, D
498. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Reggie Leach, RW
499. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Mike Richards, C
500. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Zinetula Bilyaletdinov, D
501. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Eric Staal, C
502. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - PK Subban, D
503. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Harry Westwick, C
504. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Pat Verbeek, RW
505. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Tim Thomas, G
506. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Jerry Korab, D
507. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Dollard St. Laurent, D
508. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Camille Henry, LW
509. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Rod Seiling, D
510. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Trevor Linden, C
511. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Keith Magnuson, D
512. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Steve Kasper, C

Round 17

513. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Dave Trottier, LW
514. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - George McNamara, D
515. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Terry O'Rielly, RW
516. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Venjamin Alexandrov, LW
517. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Steve Duchesne, D
518. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jacques Demers, Coach
519. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Vasili Pervukhin, D
520. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Robert Svehla, D
521. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Brenden Morrow, LW
522. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Jamie Macoun, D
523. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Gregg Sheppard, C/LW
524. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Mathieu Schneider, D
525. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Viktor Kuzkin, D
526. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Bruce MacGregor, RW
527. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Paddy Moran, G
528. Dwight - West Island Lions - Dennis Hull, LW
529. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Viktor Tikhonov, Coach
530. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - John MacLean, RW
531. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Peter Laviolette, Coach
532. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Milan Hejduk, RW
533. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Frantisek Tikal, D
534. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Bob Armstrong, D
535. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Rejean Houle, F
536. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Darryl Sutter, coach
537. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jim Pappin, RW
538. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Dan Bain, C
539. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Ed Sandford, LW
540. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Albert Leduc, D
541. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Kris Draper, C
542. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Bengt-Ake Gustafsson, RW
543. Nalyd Pyscho - Boston Bandits - Percy Lesueur, G
544. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Ken Hitchcock, Coach

Round 18

545. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Murray Oliver, C
546. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Bobby Holik, C
547. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Doug Weight, C
548. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Ron Stackhouse, D
549. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Ross Lonsberry, LW
550. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Mario Tremblay, RW
551. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Graham Drinkwater, D/F
552. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Jack Adams, Coach
553. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Thoms, C
554. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bob Davidson, LW
555. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Murray Murdoch, LW/C
556. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Nicklas Backstrom, C
557. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Alex Tanguay, LW
558. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Larry Robinson, Coach
559. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Thomas Steen, C
560. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Glen Wesley, D
561. Dwight - West Island Lions - Claude Giroux, C
562. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Ken Wharram, RW
563. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Al Secord, LW
564. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Hap Holmes, G
565. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Doug Risebrough, C
566. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Roger Neilson, Coach
567. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Bob Nystrom, RW
568. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Nikolai Sologubov, D
569. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Simon Gagne, LW
570. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Boris Mayorov, RW
571. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Hamby Shore, D/LW
572. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Troy Murray, C
573. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Roberto Luongo, G
574. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Anders Hedberg, RW
575. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Gordon "Red" Berenson, C/LW
576. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Craig Conroy, C

Round 19

577. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Mike Foligno, RW
578. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Curtis Joseph, G
579. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Barry Trotz, Coach
580. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
581. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Claude Julien, Coach
582. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - John Ferguson, LW
583. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Art Ross, Coach
584. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Rick Vaive, RW
585. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Ray Getliffe, LW, C
586. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Al Iafrate, D
587. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Ryan Smyth, LW
588. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Reggie Fleming, LW/D
589. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - David Backes C,RW
590. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Fred Lake, D
591. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Paul Ronty, C
592. Dwight - West Island Lions - Robyn Regehr, D
593. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Jack Marshall, F/D
594. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - John Vanbiesbrouck, G
595. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Willie Mitchell, D
596. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Miroslav Satan, W
597. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Harry Oliver, RW
598. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Hec Kilrea, LW
599. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Al Arbour, D
600. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Alec Connell, G
601. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Jimmy Roberts, RW/D
602. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Dion Phaneuf, D
603. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
604. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Goldie Prodgers, RW/D
605. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Kevin Dineen, RW
606. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Ed Giacomin, G
607. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Ken Randall, RW/D
608. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Rogie Vachon, G

Round 20

609. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Phil Russell, D
610. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Ernie Russel, C/RW
611. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Eddie Wiseman, RW
612. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Mike Liut, G
613. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Al Rollins, G
614. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Cully Wilson, RW
615. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Scott Hartnell, LW
616. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Pud Glass, F
617. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ab McDonald, LW
618. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Wade Redden, D
619. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Lorne Chabot, G
620. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Albert "Dubbie" Kerr, LW
621. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Gould, RW/C
622. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Vincent Lecavalier, C
623. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Calle Johansson, D
624. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Ryan Walter, C/LW
625. Dwight - West Island Lions - Alain Vigneault, Coach
626. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Jacques Lemaire, Coach
627. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Georges Mantha, LW/D
628. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Bryan McCabe, D
629. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Brent Seabrook, D
630. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Vladimir Dzurilla, G
631. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Jaroslav Jirik, W
632. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Bill Goldsworthy, RW
633. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Darryl Sydor, D
634. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Ivan Hlinka, C
635. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Mike Richter, G
636. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Andy Hebenton
637. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Kelly Miller, LW
638. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ed van Impe, D
639. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jason Arnott, C
640. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Don Awrey, D

Round 21

641. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Billy Boucher, RW
642. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Alexei Kovalev, RW
643. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dave Kerr, G
644. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ron Stewart, RW/D
645. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Evgeni Nabokov, G
646. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ray Whitney, LW
647. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Gerry Cheevers, G
648. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Jean-Sebastien Giguere, G
649. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Chris Osgood, G
650. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - John Ross Roach, G
651. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Pit Martin, C/RW
652. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Mike Vernon, G
653. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Dennis Hextall, LW
654. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Barney Stanley, RW/D
655. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Cal Gardner, C
656. Dwight - West Island Lions - John Muckler, Coach
657. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Riley Hern, G
658. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Jason Spezza, C
659. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Paul Henderson, RW
660. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Andy Moog, G
661. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Glenn Resch, G
662. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Paul MacLean, RW
663. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Frank Patrick, Coach
664. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jamie Langenbrunner, RW
665. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Dick Irvin, C
666. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Jonathan Quick, G
667. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Mattias Ohlund, D
668. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Alf Skinner, RW
669. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Ed Jovanovski, D
670. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Percy Galbraith, LW
671. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Alex Pietrangelo, D
672. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Marcel Bonin, LW

Round 22

673. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Billy Burch, C/LW
674. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Punch Imlach, Coach
675. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Brian Engblom, D
676. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Chris Drury, C/LW
677. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Jay Bouwmeester, D
678. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Jukka Jalonen, Coach
679. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Phil Kessel, RW
680. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Jaroslav Holik, C
681. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Clint Smith, C/LW
682. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Tom Anderson, LW/D
683. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Ian Turnbull, D
684. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Mike Ridley, C
685. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Roman Hamrlik, D
686. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Ron Hextall, G
687. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Dave Tippett, Coach
688. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Pat Quinn, Coach
689. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tom Paton, G
690. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Charlie Hodge, G
691. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Mark Tinordi, D
692. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Stan Smyl, RW
693. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Andre Lacroix, C
694. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Brian Campbell, D
695. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Neal Broten, C
696. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Ken Linseman, C
697. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - HÃ¥kan Loob, RW
698. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Al MacAdam, W
699. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Niklas Kronwall, D
700. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Jack Portland, D
701. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Billy Reay, coach
702. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Lorne Carr, RW
703. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ron Greschner, D
704. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Father David Bauer, Coach

Round 23

705. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Alexei Yashin, C
706. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Herb Cain, LW
707. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dustin Byfuglien, D/RW
708. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Mike Green, D
709. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Jiri Lala, RW
710. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Keith Crowder, RW
711. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Art Chapman, C
712. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Marc Savard, C
713. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Oldrich Machac, D
714. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Andre Dupont, D
715. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Kent Nilsson, C/RW
716. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Brian Bellows, W
717. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Alexander Gusev, D
718. Nalyd Psycho - Boston Bandits - Baldy Cotton, LW
719. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Johnny Wilson, LW
720. Dwight - West Island Lions - Bob Dailey, D
721. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Buddy O'Connor, C
722. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Mush March, RW
723. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Victor Shalimov, RW
724. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brian Skrudland, C
725. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Doug Barkley, D
726. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Bobby Schmautz, RW
727. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Pekka Lindmark, G
728. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Leo Labine, RW
729. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Corb Denneny, F
730. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Billy Coutu, D
731. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Viktor Yakushev, F
732. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Justin Williams, RW
733. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Daniel Briere, C
734. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Jaroslav Pitner, Coach
735. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Marc Tardif, LW
736. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Al Shields, D

Round 24

737. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Sven 'Tumba' Johansson, C
738. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Stephane Richer, RW
739. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - John Ogrodnick, LW
740. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Bruce Boudreau, Coach
741. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - Tomas Sandstrom, RW
742. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Charlie Huddy, D
743. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - John Tavares, C
744. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Jan Starsi, Coach
745. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Dickie Boon, D
746. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Barry Pederson, C
747. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Dennis Maruk, C
748. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Joe Pavelski, F
749. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jan Erixon, W
750. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Michal Handzus, C
751. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Kjell Samuelsson, D
752. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Miroslav Dvorak, D
753. Dwight - West Island Lions - Craig MacTavish, C
754. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Glen Skov, C/LW
755. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Karel Gut, Coach
756. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Steve Sullivan, RW
757. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Pekka Rautakallio, D
758. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Valeri Kamensky, LW
759. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Thomas Vanek, LW
760. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Lubomir Visnovsky, D
761. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - François Beauchemin, D
762. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Kris Letang, D
763. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Paul Haynes, LW
764. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Tom Lysiak, C/LW
765. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Paul Shmyr, D
766. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tomas Kaberle, D
767. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Alexei Zhitnik, D
768. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Seth Martin, G

Round 25

769. ResilientBeast - Los Angeles Sharks - Doug Young, D
770. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jeff Carter, C/RW
771. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Andrew Ladd, LW
772. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Johnny Gagnon, RW
773. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Harry Smith, C/LW
774. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Jiri Kralik, G
775. Stoneberg & rmartin65 - Halifax Citadels - Normand Rochefort, D
776. Reds4Life & Evil Sather - Detroit Red Wings - Saku Koivu, C
777. Modo - Las Vegas Raiders - Don Cherry, Coach
778. markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - Carey Price, G
779. MadArcand - Les Renards d'Orléans - Bob Hartley, Coach
780. Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - Garry Unger, C
781. papershoes & BenchBrawl - Kenora Thistles - Craig Janney, C
782. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Dunc Munro, D
783. SchultzSquared - Chatham Maroons - Jack Laviolette, W/D
784. Dwight - West Island Lions - Steve Thomas, LW
785. Johnny Engine & peskypenguin4 - NLDA Angry Turnips - Louis Berlinguette, LW
786. nik jr - Connecticut College Camels - Jeff Brown, D
787. King Forsberg - Orlando Solar Bears - Joe Watson, D
788. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bob Probert, LW
789. jarek & Dreakmur - Montreal Victorias - Dave Babych, D
790. tony d - Quebec Nordiques - Kenny Jonsson, D
791. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Charlie Sands, C/RW
792. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Allan Cameron, D
793. VanIslander - Kitchener Greenshirts - Yevgeny Babich, RW
794. Sdrawkcab321 - Cleveland Barons - Herb Brooks, Coach
795. TAnnala - Anaheim Axes - Glen Murray, RW
796. ted1971 - Quebec Aces - SKIPPED
797. Cyborg Yzerman - Hartford Whalers - Tomas Vokoun, G
798. Velociraptor - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Patrik Sundstrom, C/LW
799. 87and71 - Hershey Bears - Pete Peeters, G
800. EagleBelfour - Belfast Giants - Konstantin Loktev, RW

Add/Drops

Hawkman & Hedberg - Ottawa 67's - DROP Reggie Fleming, LW/D / ADD Bill Fairbairn, RW
markrander87 - Macon Whoopee - DROP Carey Price, G / ADD Vsevolod Bobrov, LW
TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - DROP Barry Pederson, C / ADD Clem Loughlin, D
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Graham Drinkwater D/F

One of the most versatile stars of the early days of the game, Graham Drinkwater was a fixture in the Montreal Victorias' lineup. He was a rare breed with an ability to function equally well at the defense and forward positions. Brilliant stickhandling, a natural scoring touch and team-permeating enthusiasm characterized Drinkwater's play. He was an integral component of the Montreal Victorias squad that became hockey's first dynasty with four Stanley Cup triumphs in the 1890s.
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I had a list of 4 candidates for this next pick, and was unsure who I was going to go with. Oliver and Weight were two of them, so thanks to you guys for making my decision easier. The Chicago Shamrocks are proud to welcome back a great two-way player, Bill Thoms, C

Back when I selected Brent Sutter there were comments made that my 3rd line of Pavelich - Brent Sutter - Leswick didn't have enough offense to be a threat the other way. With Thoms at the pivot that should no longer be a problem, and he has a strong defensive game, so the line will still be very effective defensively. Thoms will not completely replace Sutter on that line, they will each be used on the 3rd/4th lines as the situation and opponent warrants.

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Yeah, that's the nice thing about the center position, Hawkey...it's really deep. What does Thoms' 7-season VsX look like with the war year fudges figured in?
 
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Hawkey Town 18 said:
I had a list of 4 candidates for this next pick, and was unsure who I was going to go with. Oliver and Weight were two of them, so thanks to you guys for making my decision easier. The Chicago Shamrocks are proud to welcome back a great two-way player, Bill Thoms, C

Back when I selected Brent Sutter there were comments made that my 3rd line of Pavelich - Brent Sutter - Leswick didn't have enough offense to be a threat the other way. With Thoms at the pivot that should no longer be a problem, and he has a strong defensive game, so the line will still be very effective defensively. Thoms will not completely replace Sutter on that line, they will each be used on the 3rd/4th lines as the situation and opponent warrants.

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Was torn between Weight and Thoms, thought Weight would be the better supplement to a 2nd PP unit.
 
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Swamp Devils complete our checking line with Bob Davidson, LW

Davidson was described a "rugged" and "speedy." Not much of a scorer, he was a great defensive player, and he was used by Hap Day to shadow Rocket Richard, including the huge upset in 1945 (1945 Montreal Canadiens were mostly untouched by the war and cruised through the regular season, only to be upset by Day's Leafs in the playoffs).

Nik Jr made a great bio: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=45934945&postcount=198

Some highlights:



Montreal Gazette: 12-20-1949 said:
Toronto writers have suddenly discovered Maurice Richard. Maple Leaf Gardens was the Rocket's toughest campaigning spot for several seasons. Largely because Hap Day used to assign rugged Bob Davidson to hound the Montreal speedster, and practically rode around the Rocket's back (sic). Davidson was no puckchasing sensation, but the NHL had few more diligent defensive workmen. Milt Dunnell of the Toronto Star is the latest Queen City chronicler to realize that Dick Irvin's whirling dervish must have something besides a touch of magic to bag all those goals.
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Richard vs TML, '44-'46, playoffs included
in Montreal: 26g, 10a, 36p in 20 games --- (1.8p per game)
in Toronto: 8g, 4a, 12p in 19 games ------ (.63p per game)

2 playoff series in '44 and '45 are perfect examples of this uneven scoring. Richard had games of 5g, 2+3, and 4+1 at home, but his highest output on road was 1g.
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You could say that Rocket Richard and Bob Davidson were almost inseparable on the ice.
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Up until that time, it had been customary for NHL teams to put a shadow on a high-scoring star in occasional key games. But Hap Day was the pioneering genius who decided to assign one man to check Richard for an entire season.

Richard wasn't much of a talker in first few years in the league. He left the talking to the Montreal coach, Dick Irvin, who was a provocative conversationalist. Irvin publicly deplored Day's campaign to thwart his high-scoring right winger. Said Irvin scornfully: "If I let The Rocket go to the bathroom during a game, I'll bet that Davidson follows him."

The Montreal hockey fanatics were even more indignant than Irvin. In that era, there was no protective glass in front of the rail-seats in the Montreal Forum. One night, when Richard and Davidson were jostling for position on a face-off inside the Montreal blue-line, Day looked out onto the ice and discovered he didn't have a left winger.

A couple of inflamed Montreal fans had grabbed Davidson by the shoulders and pulled him right over the fence into the walkway behind the rail-seats.
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I go back to a player I had last year and liked having... for his versatility and great checking game... LW/C Murray Murdoch
 
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TheDevilMadeMe said:
The only good year Thoms had that was war affected was 1942-43, which wasn't one of the worst war years, so his score would go down a little bit, but not all that much.
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Good call TDMM, it only changes to 73.4
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Thanks guys. 73.4 puts him 5-6 percentage points behind guys like Weight, Staal, and Brad Richards. In a season where the #2 scorer gets 100 pts, that's 5-6 points. I think Thoms' clearly superior defensive play compared to those guys is easily worth a mere 5-6 point drop in offensive production.
 
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Hawkey Town 18 said:
Thanks guys. 73.4 puts him 5-6 percentage points behind guys like Weight, Staal, and Brad Richards. In a season where the #2 scorer gets 100 pts, that's 5-6 points. I think Thoms' clearly superior defensive play compared to those guys is easily worth a mere 5-6 point drop in offensive production.
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At least for a bottom-6 player, I agree. Though I assume the teams who drafted those other guys needed them for their power plays.
 
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At least for a bottom-6 player, I agree. Though I assume the teams who drafted those other guys needed them for their power plays.
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I would say for any player. Look at last season's stats for Toews/Bergeron/Kopitar... not including players who missed a lot of games, do you consider any of the players who finished with 6 or fewer pts more than those 3 guys to be better players?

(For the record, I know Thoms is not one of the best defensive players in the ATD like the above guys are in real life, but Weight/Staal/Richards aren't top offensive players in the ATD like the guys you'll be comparing Toews/Bergeron/Kopitar to, so it goes both ways)



How does whether or not they play on the PP matter if PP points are already factored into VsX?
 
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Time now to review Day 44 of the 2015 ATD, a day where we saw 22 picks:

- Jamie Macoun was picked: Solid selection, me and Arcand had him in my first MLD in 2010, guy is probably 1 of the better defensive defensemen that would be #5 or #6 defensemen in this thing.

- Peter Laviolette was picked: Good choice, looks to be the favourite for the Coach of the year this year in real life.

- Rejean Houle was picked: Good pick, was looking at him for a later pick here.

- Albert Leduc was picked: Good choice, he was another name I was looking at when I went with Bob Armstrong.

- Paddy Moran was picked: Little early for him as there are better goalies available.

In any event those are my thoughts on Day 44, looking forward to Day 45.
 
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Hawkey Town 18 said:
I would say for any player. Look at last season's stats for Toews/Bergeron/Kopitar... not including players who missed a lot of games, do you consider any of the players who finished with 6 or fewer pts more than those 3 guys to be better players?

(For the record, I know Thoms is not one of the best defensive players in the ATD like the above guys are in real life, but Weight/Staal/Richards aren't top offensive players in the ATD like the guys you'll be comparing Toews/Bergeron/Kopitar to, so it goes both ways)



How does whether or not they play on the PP matter if PP points are already factored into VsX?
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It means that at this point, everyone is drafting their role players. And I could see drafting Weight, Staal or Richards over Thoms if a team's second PP is lacking. Especially Richards or Weight, both of whom played the point at times, I believe. Even if Thoms is the better overall player, and would seem to help a team more at even strength.

By the way, there is a Dink Caroll column that mentions Thoms was the guy shifted around the lineup by Toronto when there were injuries, so he's a great overall role player in this I think.
 
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Hawkey Town 18 said:
How does whether or not they play on the PP matter if PP points are already factored into VsX?
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Some guys, like Weight, are known powerplay specialists and/or play special roles like manning a point which gives them extra value if that is a team need. Generally speaking, a guy like Thoms is going to be more valuable than a Weight if both are only playing at ES, but this is less true if Weight is manning a point on the powerplay and Thoms is only as ES specialist.

Really a matter of role is what I'm saying. Once we get into bottom-6 guys, "in a vacuum" comparisons often aren't all that useful. I like Thoms as the center for your 3rd line, though. He ought to give the unit the puckhandling that it will need more often than not, and hold up his end of the bargain defensively.
 
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TheDevilMadeMe said:
It means that at this point, everyone is drafting their role players. And I could see drafting Weight, Staal or Richards over Thoms if a team's second PP is lacking. Especially Richards or Weight, both of whom played the point at times, I believe. Even if Thoms is the better overall player, and would seem to help a team more at even strength.

By the way, there is a Dink Caroll column that mentions Thoms was the guy shifted around the lineup by Toronto when there were injuries, so he's a great overall role player in this I think.
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Some guys, like Weight, are known powerplay specialists and/or play special roles like manning a point which gives them extra value if that is a team need. Generally speaking, a guy like Thoms is going to be more valuable than a Weight if both are only playing at ES, but this is less true if Weight is manning a point on the powerplay and Thoms is only as ES specialist.

Really a matter of role is what I'm saying. Once we get into bottom-6 guys, "in a vacuum" comparisons often aren't all that useful. I like Thoms as the center for your 3rd line, though. He ought to give the unit the puckhandling that it will need more often than not, and hold up his end of the bargain offensively.
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Ok, this makes sense to me. I was looking at it as them having equal roles. There is actually a chance Thoms ends up playing on my 2nd PP unit. He will definitely be low-end for that role. It will all depend on if I want to stack my 1st PP unit with Malkin on the point or have him center the 2nd unit. Probably something I'll ask about in the lineup advice thread once my roster is complete.
 
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Sturminator said:
Some guys, like Weight, are known powerplay specialists and/or play special roles like manning a point which gives them extra value if that is a team need. Generally speaking, a guy like Thoms is going to be more valuable than a Weight if both are only playing at ES, but this is less true if Weight is manning a point on the powerplay and Thoms is only as ES specialist.

Really a matter of role is what I'm saying. Once we get into bottom-6 guys, "in a vacuum" comparisons often aren't all that useful. I like Thoms as the center for your 3rd line, though. He ought to give the unit the puckhandling that it will need more often than not, and hold up his end of the bargain defensively.
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Isnt Weight an ES specialist? I always got the impression that most of his points stems from being great at ES. Couldd be wrong tho.
 
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