Around the League 30: who's panicking?
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RibFrabcus
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Would be nice if some metro teams decided to start losing
AhosDatsyukian
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HisIceness
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There's a disturbing amount of fans that want to keep Q around because the Panthers are undefeated.
I question if they understand they're echoing the reason Q ignored the assault in the first place.
I question if they understand they're echoing the reason Q ignored the assault in the first place.
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"Hi Gary. Yeah, I'd love to meet with you today, but I don't want to distract the team when they are dealing with the winning streak and perfect record. Let's talk later, let's say three weeks from now..."
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Reminds me of Ped State football fans. Just don't do anything to hurt my little sports team!
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There is a question that should be asked of them that puts it in perspective. What if it was your child?
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Sirs, you have seriously breached the standards we have in the League. You are well aware of the core rule of ours, "when you're covering for shit, don't get caught"...
Unfortunately does not surprise me at all. Most sports fanbases as a collective would probably have similar reactions. Anything to win.... ::eye roll::
Also sadly I suspect that because this happened to a male, they take it less seriously. NOT saying that's fair, but just my speculation.
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Well obviously when you're a male you can only get sexually assaulted if you yourself let it happen, which you obviously did what with you being a massive *FOGHORN*.
It's all too easy to imagine how a teammate, a twenty-something jock male in a highly competitive environment with a life of career in question will start from this point of thought and then rationalize it and react as if the guy voluntarily wanted to get ahead by giving... well, you know, while knowing it deep down that it could have been himself instead.
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I could say a lot in response to this (very well written) post, but I'll just say this: whatever the details surrounding this case, it highlights the ways that predators use power against their victims. It is not always just "brute strength or force"--even with women. I think this can be a blind spot for people.
We have to wait for the full investigation obviously, but I struggle to envision any scenario where there was not a grave abuse of power used against Beach--and a traumatic one at that.
/End Ted Talk.
There's a huge difference. For Penn State, "Beat Nebraska" is justification to keep a coach in his current job.
For Quenneville, "Beat Nebraska" is the objective of his next job.
Svechhammer
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I don't care that they are 7-0-0, you have to fire him. You have to fire him because there is no way he didn't know what was going on. You have to fire him because he kept quiet for 11 years. And you have to fire him because, if you don't, its going to snowball into a massive shitstorm of a distraction for the team itself that will absolutely derail what they have going.
Svechhammer
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And not enough attention is being paid right now to the fact that Mark Bergevin should be fired as well. You can't tell me the Director of Player Personnel didn't know about this at the time when all of the players knew. And who was that Director? You guessed it, Mark Bergevin.
I read the report yesterday...not all 100+ pages, but all the accounts of the incident. The only one that makes sense to me is the confidant who said Beach said he was roofied...but then Beach never mentions this in his testimony.
If Beach was roofied, that's a criminal act and he should've went to the cops not the Blackhawks. If he wasn't roofied and it was just a bizarro hockey casting couch, taking it strictly internally with the Hawks was the right move.
The critical issues seem to be that McDonaugh slow-walked the complaint to HR...and I suppose maybe an insufficient investigation from their HR department. I'm not understanding the scrutiny of Q...it's not his job to handle sexual harassment/assault claims.
Looking back at this and scrutinizing it is easy, but I understand why it wasn't handled perfectly...just a very odd/unusual situation. Learn from it and get better, but don't go on this witch hunt.
If Beach was roofied, that's a criminal act and he should've went to the cops not the Blackhawks. If he wasn't roofied and it was just a bizarro hockey casting couch, taking it strictly internally with the Hawks was the right move.
The critical issues seem to be that McDonaugh slow-walked the complaint to HR...and I suppose maybe an insufficient investigation from their HR department. I'm not understanding the scrutiny of Q...it's not his job to handle sexual harassment/assault claims.
Looking back at this and scrutinizing it is easy, but I understand why it wasn't handled perfectly...just a very odd/unusual situation. Learn from it and get better, but don't go on this witch hunt.
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Unless I'm mistaken, MB wasn't mentioned in the report, nor did Kyle mention him in the interview. While it's certainly very possible that he knew about the situation, you can only go off of what the victim and the investigation turns up.
tarheelhockey
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Threatening to beat him with a bat unless he performed sex acts wasn’t enough of a criminal act?
Svechhammer
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I don't care if he wasn't named, given his position, there is no way he didn't know.
AhosDatsyukian
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The good thing is they have all "started" losing. Just need them to continue and do it more than they have been. We have yet to start and I don't think we plan to.
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Going after someone for something they might have known with no proof to show for it sets a very dangerous precedent.
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