OT: Around Hockey and the NHL

[These Are The Days]

Not hard when Mark Stone gets hurt every 3rd week of February. Kucherov tears a hip labrum once and we *STILL* gotta freaking hear about it

 

[LightningStrikes]

Looks like Rag$ goon Rempe might be suspended by the time they play us Thursday.

The kid is a loose cannon.

 

[Felonious Python]

I'm so tired of hearing about Rempe already.

 

[Felonious Python]

Lakewood Ranch, FL native

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Felonious Python]

Anson Carter's group is a different one from Forsyth County (although Forsyth doesn't seem to have any named potential owners attached so far).

Alpharetta wants to bring NHL franchise back to metro Atlanta

Bid comes after a massive Forsyth County development also aimed at returning NHL team to metro area.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

It feels like the NHL is about to open the expansion process.

In order to get the most expansion money, they'd go one team at a time, but Forsyth needs an NHL commitment in order to start using public money for the development. That would indicate Atlanta would be allowed in several years before they started playing.

 

[Felonious Python]

so that would be Utah, Atlanta, Houston, Kansas City, and San Diego. 37 teams.

We're going to 40. Charlotte, Portland, Cincinnati, Austin, Indianapolis, San Francisco, etc. would probably be 3 of the next 4.

I feel like, based on markets, the NHL could get to 42-44ish without repeating cities (I'm counting SF and SJ as two).


A San Diego AHL affiliate would be interesting. Yuma, AZ, or buying the Coachella Valley Firebirds from Seattle would fit. The idea of Tijuana, Mexico has to come up, although it's unlikely.

edit: Yuma for the ECHL. It doesn't have the population for an AHL city. Fresno will get a team again at some point (it's bigger than Buffalo), although I kind of have that in mind for SF/SJ or Anaheim.

Carlsbad, Escondido, or Temecula would fit geographically for San Diego. I haven't looked into SD as closely as other rumored cities, so I'm mostly just putting names out there.

 

[JoVel]

I feel like, based on markets, the NHL could get to 42-44ish without repeating markets (I'm counting SF and SJ as two).

I might make it to the NHL at that point.

 

[Felonious Python]

I might make it to the NHL at that point.

I'm okay with a steady rate of expansion, but owners tend to be on the older side, and they may not want to wait 20 years. That does make me concerned about temporary dilution (although it also creates more goals).

I did sort of a mock expansion draft gradually during intermissions and other lulls a few weeks ago. There are enough goalies and defensemen for another team. Forwards are a bit thin.

 

[StammerHammer]

Red Wings having a tough first tonight.

 

[Major4Boarding]

Anson Carter's group is a different one from Forsyth County (although Forsyth doesn't seem to have any named potential owners attached so far).

Alpharetta wants to bring NHL franchise back to metro Atlanta

Bid comes after a massive Forsyth County development also aimed at returning NHL team to metro area.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

This the answer I got to my question about the Forsyth bid

So is Krause the developer-in-name only, or did he formally say he is also the ownership front as well? I just assumed it was both all this time. It’ll go a long way knowing… now that NPM is back on the menu

Krause is both developer and prospective owner, yes. Krause also owns the land in Forsyth County where he would build his facility.

Carter and his group are completely separate from Krause, with an eye on the North Point Mall location. I think this is why so many redevlopments of the site had been turned down previously, because the city knew Carter and his group is interested.

Who wins out is really anyone's guess.

 

[Felonious Python]

This the answer I got to my question about the Forsyth bid


Krause is both developer and prospective owner, yes. Krause also owns the land in Forsyth County where he would build his facility.

Carter and his group are completely separate from Krause, with an eye on the North Point Mall location. I think this is why so many redevlopments of the site had been turned down previously, because the city knew Carter and his group is interested.

Who wins out is really anyone's guess.

It doesn't really help that the media (that I've seen) rarely even mentions the Krause name when reporting on the Forsyth development. (typical national story: Forsyth arena developer hopes to bring NHL team to Atlanta metro)

As for who gets the Atlanta team, probably Anson Carter. Krause would have to really impress the NHL.

I've also seen on here that the Anson Carter Alpharetta site makes more sense.

It's kind of weird for a competing bid to not up the ante. Where's their hockey guy/celebrity to bring credibility?

 

[Stammertime91]

I might make it to the NHL at that point.

They could have 62 teams and you wouldn't even get a PTO. Sit down scrub.

 

[JoVel]

They could have 62 teams and you wouldn't even get a PTO. Sit down scrub.

You're saying that as if I didn't have a four goal game in EASHL as a defenceman in NHL 18.

 

[Felonious Python]

According to Pierre LeBrun, there's a third group wanting to put a team in Atlanta.

36 minutes in

Best of OverDrive - March 14, 2024

The best of OverDrive for March 14th, featuring a guest interview with TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Felonious Python]

I looked a bit more into a San Diego affiliation. I don't know why I didn't think of it as I was just looking at it, but the Padres are affiliated with AAA El Paso, TX.

The Seawolves (or whatever they're called) could tap into the same travel setup as the Padres.

It's not entirely unheard of. Nashville/Milwaukee are affiliated in MLB and NHL, as well as the much more local Philly/Lehigh Valley.

Of course, they could call the San Diego team the Admirals, and affiliate with Milwaukee and Norfolk to get an Admirals-Admirals-Admirals affiliation. (San Diego is a navy town)


San Diego could put another AHL team in the Inland Empire, or Fresno, but Rio Rancho, NM is another possibility.



I haven't given much thought to the schedules or playoffs (which will expand at some point). Bye rounds could become a necessity, as well as leaving the divisional format behind.

 

[Felonious Python]

1pm


7pm

 

[Felonious Python]

The USports third place game is live.


It's Toronto Met vs McGill at Matamy (Toronto Met's Arena, formerly Maple Leafs Gardens)

Despite being covered by CBC Sports, and a home game for one of the teams competing, the game is nearly empty.

But sure, Toronto 2, Hamilton, and Saskatoon in the NHL.


The Saskatoon Blades (children's hockey team) can fill almost 1/3rd of the Sasktel Center, and Saskatoon is the worldwide headquarters of Robin Hood Flour, so there's corporate support.

A Canadian dollar also gets you almost .75 US cents, so you know they'll be able to keep up when the NHL cap rises to $200 million.

 

[StammerHammer]

The Lightning had a good day today.
Islanders, Devils and Wings were all losers.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Detroit is falling apart, 7 game losing streak. Maybe Buffalo makes it?

 

[JoVel]

Detroit is falling apart, 7 game losing streak. Maybe Buffalo makes it?

Buffalo will end the season on like an 8 game win streak, miss the playoffs by 3 points, just so their fans can get their hopes up for next year just to do the same all over again.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Detroit is falling apart, 7 game losing streak. Maybe Buffalo makes it?

Red Wings going full 2013-14 Maple Leafs with a late season collapse. Losers of 8 of 9 for the Wings.

 

[Renopucker]

Yeah,I think SFY and Motown is gonna have to wait another year for a return to playoff hockey.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Outl4w]

Looks like Rag$ goon Rempe might be suspended by the time they play us Thursday.

Maybe Jeannot will be available by then and show the fans he is worth a fraction of what JBB paid for him.