Speculation: Armchair GM Thread - 2018/19 Season

[Rangediddy]

So we should expect Lindholm & Hanifin to be resigned here pretty quick right? I can't imagine Treliving goes into Free Agency without having the FA's locked up.

I actually think Tre can get Lindholm for below $5m. He just always seems to be able to undercut what the broad expectations are.

 

[Janks]

So we should expect Lindholm & Hanifin to be resigned here pretty quick right? I can't imagine Treliving goes into Free Agency without having the FA's locked up.

I actually think Tre can get Lindholm for below $5m. He just always seems to be able to undercut what the broad expectations are.

I think we get a deal soon for under $10M for both players. Something like 4.5-4.75M for Elias and something similar like 4-4.25 for Noah.

 

[Rangediddy]

I think we get a deal soon for under $10M for both players. Something like 4.5-4.75M for Elias and something similar like 4-4.25 for Noah.

Even before they were traded, seeing Lindy's camp wanted $5.5m, I was thinking to myself "Tre could do it at $4.75m!"

 

[The Gnome]

Even before they were traded, seeing Lindy's camp wanted $5.5m, I was thinking to myself "Tre could do it at $4.75m!"

Yup, if there is anything Tre is one of the best at, it's quality signings. I expect more of a discount than most are expecting. Probably played into why he traded for two young RFAs, probably is pretty confident he can lock them up on great contracts.

 

[Sparky93]

I’m kinda thinking we lock both of them up long term 6 years @$5 million for Lindholm and 6 years @ $5.4 for Hanifin.

 

[Lunatik]

Yup, if there is anything Tre is one of the best at, it's quality signings. I expect more of a discount than most are expecting. Probably played into why he traded for two young RFAs, probably is pretty confident he can lock them up on great contracts.

I'd give Hanifin a bridge deal, because he is so young even a 7 year deal will make him a UFA at 28 and even a 4 year deal makes him a 25 year old UFA

 

[Lunatik]

I’m kinda thinking we lock both of them up long term 6 years @$5 million for Lindholm and 6 years @ $5.4 for Hanifin.

so you want Hanifin to be a UFA at 27... brilliant asset management

 

[1989]

As a reminder (per Calgary Flames - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps) the Flames have roughly 24.5m in cap space (assuming 79.5m cap) after the Hamilton/Lindholm+Hanifin trade, with a total of 10 UFAs and 13 RFAs.

UFAs
Forwards: Tanner Glass, Chris Stewart, Kris Versteeg, Marek Hrivik, Matt Stajan, Luke Gazdic

Defence: Matt Bartkowski, Tyler Wotherspoon, Cody Goloubef, Dalton Prout

RFAs (*with arbitration eligibility)
Forwards: Elias Lindholm*, Nick Shore*, Garnet Hathaway*, Mark Jankowski*, Austin Carroll*, Hunter Shinkaruk, Morgan Klimchuk, Hunter Smith, Emile Poirier

Defence: Brett Kulak*, Noah Hanifin

Goaltenders: David Rittich*, Jon Gillies

 

[Kranix]

All of those UFAs can walk.
Sign Jankowski, Lindholm, Kulak, Hanifin, Rittich and Gillies.

 

[The Gnome]

If you sign a guy like JVR and Rieder for depth. We could push Lindholm into our 2nd line center spot:

Gaudreau-Monahan-JVR
Bennett-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Reider-Backlund-Frolik (nice shut down line)
XXX-Janko-XXX

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I’m kinda thinking we lock both of them up long term 6 years @$5 million for Lindholm and 6 years @ $5.4 for Hanifin.

Ah yes, the patented Edmonton Oilers Bridge Contract (TM). I'd prefer to give them more shorter term, and sign them to long term deals in 2-3 years (while they're still RFA)


As for JVR 6x7 is likely the minimum. I think the Oshie / Okposo deals are good comparables, with inflation added due to salary cap increase.

 

[The Gnome]

I'd give Hanifin a bridge deal, because he is so young even a 7 year deal will make him a UFA at 28 and even a 4 year deal makes him a 25 year old UFA

Yeah, bit of clarity on my part...Wasn't calling for long term deals for both, just saying I think both signings will be something we are very happy with. Zero reason to give Hanifin the long term deal given his age.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Oh, and we should sign Cam Ward as a 1B goalie. Because why not.

Carolina Hurricanes goalie Cam Ward likely to hit open market - Sportsnet.ca

(assuming we can't get Lehner)

 

[Sparky93]

Ah yes, the patented Edmonton Oilers Bridge Contract (TM). I'd prefer to give them more shorter term, and sign them to long term deals in 2-3 years (while they're still RFA)


As for JVR 6x7 is likely the minimum. I think the Oshie / Okposo deals are good comparables, with inflation added due to salary cap increase.

I don’t know. How much does a 24 year old defenseman, with a couple 40 point seasons under his belt command as an RFA?

 

[Tkachuky]

What are we going to be doing at the Free Agency? Do we have room to sign a 'bigger name'? Neal type of guy? With the comments I am reading about Lindholm playing top line, I would think we will make a depth signing for the bottom 6 and nothing top 6.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I don’t know. How much does a 24 year old defenseman, with a couple 40 point seasons under his belt command as an RFA?

Depends how quickly you want him to be a UFA. It's not about the dollars, its about the term, and balance between the two. I would prefer to have cost control for longer term - leading to a shorter bridge deal. I'd offer 3 years, $16 million. He'd still be RFA after the deal ends, at which point you get him locked up for 8 years. If he trends up, he likely gets close to $8x8

At the same time if you can sign him to a sweeter deal for longer term of course you have to consider it, and risk UFA sooner.

 

[Anglesmith]

Didn't someone from the front office specifically state that we're signing someone to help our PP? Doesn't sound like Grabner to me. JVR is a possibility, but I'd hope we're looking for a trigger-man more than a winger version of Monahan.

 

[DCDM]

Didn't someone from the front office specifically state that we're signing someone to help our PP? Doesn't sound like Grabner to me. JVR is a possibility, but I'd hope we're looking for a trigger-man more than a winger version of Monahan.

So Neal?

 

[Anglesmith]

So Neal?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Vanek.

 

[DCDM]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Vanek.

Would be cheaper but I wouldn't love it. Isn't he kind of a floater?

 

[Sparky93]

Would be cheaper but I wouldn't love it. Isn't he kind of a floater?

Well JVR does his fair share of floating too

 

[Anglesmith]

Would be cheaper but I wouldn't love it. Isn't he kind of a floater?

Most of the UFAs are floaters. If they weren't, they'd be locked up as part of their team's core in most cases.

 

[DCDM]

Well JVR does his fair share of floating too

Most of the UFAs are floaters. If they weren't, they'd be locked up as part of their team's core in most cases.

Fair. I guess I just like JVR when he's on more than I like Vanek when he's on.

 

[InfinityIggy]

It's gonna be Iginla.

 

[Anglesmith]

It's gonna be Iginla.

If it's Iginla, I'm changing my username to Iggy's Robohip.