Confirmed with Link: Arbitration Avoided, Bratt Signs for 1 year, $5.45 million

JimEIV

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You went to support your buddy so good deed for the day. Now get some sleep.
I guess. But I thought I was going to help with the mental game not diagnose an injury.

In conversation it was represented as some kinks that needed to be worked out. I am not mad, I don't think he misrepresented anything .. it's common for archers to not realize that they are injured and plow through it only to make things much worse. Just sort of disheartened by the outcome in a broader sense. Every so often the reality of getting older shows its ugly face. Watching excellence fade is something I'll never really get used to.
 
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I would imagine a semi-serious or worse injury would be the worst case scenario for both Bratt and the team.

The team would likely be hesitant to sign someone to a big long term contract (if he didn't return this season to prove himself) and Bratt wouldn't want to sign a a discounted contract. It could lead to another one year deal that leads him right to UFA.

Hopefully he has a good year and he gets signed at some point during the year.
 
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Fitz was an old school NHL player and probably doesn’t see enough “B” game from Bratt to accept him for the talent he is.

I mean neither does Jack and he committed to Jack before he fully broke out but likely wouldn't commit to Bratt for what he deserved even after he broke out. I think it fully comes down to Bratt's draft position directly and indirectly causing him to be underrated.
 
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I mean neither does Jack and he committed to Jack before he fully broke out but likely wouldn't commit to Bratt for what he deserved even after he broke out. I think it fully comes down to Bratt's draft position directly and indirectly causing him to be underrated.
Which is a mind-numbingly stupid way of doing business no matter what franchise you're a GM of.

If Bratt's draft position is going to prevent him from getting paid the way he should be paid, then the Devils might as well trade all the draftees from the 2nd round onward since it seems only the 1st rounders are important.
 

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I mean neither does Jack and he committed to Jack before he fully broke out but likely wouldn't commit to Bratt for what he deserved even after he broke out. I think it fully comes down to Bratt's draft position directly and indirectly causing him to be underrated.
Maybe. Jack looks more dynamic to me but it may be as simple as you say. Still there are a number of members of the coaching staff and management that Bratt has interacted with and presumably at least some are smart enough to put his play in proper context. If we can see it they can too. I would be disappointed if they didn’t put more effort in than some fan discussion.
 

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I guess. But I thought I was going to help with the mental game not diagnose an injury.

In conversation it was represented as some kinks that needed to be worked out. I am not mad, I don't think he misrepresented anything .. it's common for archers to not realize that they are injured and plow through it only to make things much worse. Just sort of disheartened by the outcome in a broader sense. Every so often the reality of getting older shows its ugly face. Watching excellence fade is something I'll never really get used to.
Father Time is undefeated. I’m sure your friend acted in good faith. Try driving seven hours for a tournament to be rained out and you drive home the next morning for another seven hours. At least you avoided the overnight stay.
 

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I mean neither does Jack and he committed to Jack before he fully broke out but likely wouldn't commit to Bratt for what he deserved even after he broke out. I think it fully comes down to Bratt's draft position directly and indirectly causing him to be underrated.
Seems more like personal emotion talking than logic to insinuate that Fitzgerald's offer or lack thereof involved Bratt's draft position
 
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I mean neither does Jack and he committed to Jack before he fully broke out but likely wouldn't commit to Bratt for what he deserved even after he broke out. I think it fully comes down to Bratt's draft position directly and indirectly causing him to be underrated.
You really think Fitz or the organization care about where he was drafted at this point?
 

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Yeah. Fitz didn’t say he is core player years ago and Bratt wasn’t drafted in first round. Guy will never have honest offer from this management.
Highly doubt that’s true. If Bratt replicates this season and we hear Fitz offered under 7.5-8, then I’ll believe it, but I’m 99% sure that Bratt’s gonna get over 7.5 if he gets close to PPG next season.
 

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Highly doubt that’s true. If Bratt replicates this season and we hear Fitz offered under 7.5-8, then I’ll believe it, but I’m 99% sure that Bratt’s gonna get over 7.5 if he gets close to PPG next season.
I want him to be on a line with Jack all the time next season.

That would be the best way for him to just about get back to the numbers he got this past year.
 

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I want him to be on a line with Jack all the time next season.

That would be the best way for him to just about get back to the numbers he got this past year.
Maybe that’s his best fit or maybe he should play with Hischier at even strength to avoid two undersized guys that need a bit of defensive help on one line. Bratt will play plenty of PP with Hughes where I Expect he will rack up points.
 

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I want him to be on a line with Jack all the time next season.

That would be the best way for him to just about get back to the numbers he got this past year.
I want him with Nico. He proved to me that he doesn't need Jack to produce. I'd rather have 2 dangerous lines.

Stick Palat with Jack. They should mesh well together.
 

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They are paying Palat $6 mil per to be a heady gritty vet with some skill. Not a disposable player but not a core guy either. Something tells me the analytics guys may be influencing this. Bratt's a wing the team may just have a weird line in the sand with that.
Analytics guys generally don’t have influence, typically they’re thrilled when management listens to them.

The Canes is more of an analytics team because their AGM is a famed analytics guy made good. So he’s in a management position. But they’re unique that way.

We don’t know what numbers with what term was even discussed, so we can’t really evaluate any position.
 

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I want him to be on a line with Jack all the time next season.

That would be the best way for him to just about get back to the numbers he got this past year.
I don't. Both are drivers and playmakers, they don't need each other. And their metrics are good, but when both are in defensive zone against strong opponents, they aren't strong. Bratt should play with Nico. We don't need in maximum Bratts points, we need in winning games. I prefer 70 points from Bratt and +5 wins, than 80 points from Bratt. And everybody should do too.
 

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I don't. Both are drivers and playmakers, they don't need each other. And their metrics are good, but when both are in defensive zone against strong opponents, they aren't strong. Bratt should play with Nico. We don't need in maximum Bratts points, we need in winning games. I prefer 70 points from Bratt and +5 wins, than 80 points from Bratt. And everybody should do too.
If our new goaltender is average, we'll get +5 wins regardless.
 

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10+ wins to a 27 win 63 point team is still a garbage team.

15 more wins and we still would've missed the playoffs this season....by a lot (7 points)


Things should be better this season but I am afraid that some of the major issues this team had last year will not be rectified. Mainly because Ruff is still here. I'm not sure how substantial cleaning out the assistants willbe if they are forced to run Ruffs program that we watched last year?

I think adding a couple of veteran forwards will definitely help .

I think the defense will be in flux this season and I personally think a lot of change in partners and personnel is never a good thing for the quality of the defense.

I think size and versatility in playing styles is still a major weekness. Although it will be interesting to see the effect of having Wood, Palat and Haula in the lineup.

And I think goal scoring might still be an issue. A healthy Wood popping in 20 would be a huge boost but I think we are more likely to see our GF fall this season for two reasons....1. a few guys had career highs in shooting percentage , you can't expect all of them to duplicate career highs and 2. If we play the least bit more responsible, some offensive opportunities will be lost. If they don't play more responsible this place will be talking goaltending all season.

Be nice to see a full healthy lineup to make a real assessment though.

But the Bratt issue and Severson issue will hang over this team all year and that kind of sucks from a fan perspective.
 
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10+ wins to a 27 win 63 point team is still a garbage team.

15 more wins and we still would've missed the playoffs this season....by a lot


Things should be better this season but I am afraid that some of the major issues this team had last year will not be rectified. Mainly because Ruff is still here. I'm not sure how substantial cleaning out the assistants willbe if they are forced to run Ruffs program that we watched last year?

I think adding a couple of veteran forwards will definitely help .

I think the defense will be in flux this season and I personally think a lot of change in partners and personnel is never a good thing for the quality of the defense.

I think size and versatility in playing styles is still a major weekness. Although it will be interesting to see the effect of having Wood, Palat and Haula in the lineup.

And I think goal scoring might still be an issue. A healthy Wood popping in 20 would be a huge boost but I think we are more likely to see our GF fall this season for two reasons....1. a few guys had career highs in shooting percentage , you can't expect all of them to duplicate career highs and 2. If we play the least bit more responsible, some offensive opportunities will be lost. If they don't play more responsible this place will be talking goaltending all season.

Be nice to see a full healthy lineup to make a real assessment though.

But the Bratt issue and Severson issue will hang over this team all year and that kind of sucks from a fan perspective.
The Bratt issue moreso than the Sevs one.

But look at it this way, Bratt would put his best foot(or skate) forward in order to "prove it" to Fitz (I really hate him for doing this to Bratt) so we'll see him hopefully at his very best this coming season.
 

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The Bratt issue moreso than the Sevs one.

But look at it this way, Bratt would put his best foot(or skate) forward in order to "prove it" to Fitz (I really hate him for doing this to Bratt) so we'll see him hopefully at his very best this coming season.
I think the Severson issue is way more complex honestly.
Are they going to trade him ASAP or wait until the deadline?
Is Marino going to be able to replace Severson? Are they going to make changes at the deadline if this team is at all competitive?

Bratt is here all this year, Severson probably is not...what does that mean for team? Positive or negative outcome, the questions still loom.
 
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