Van-Can
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Check this out, and mark your calenders. 1964 Cup finals between Toronto and Detroit!
http://www.aptn.ca/stanleycup/
http://www.aptn.ca/stanleycup/
APTN is an Aboriginal network, so I'm guessing most of their classic hockey games will involve marquee Aboriginal players, whose Aboriginal heritage is prominent, celebrated or well-known. In this case, Leafs captain George Armstrong was very, very well known for his roots. Nicknamed The Chief.
Anytime we get to watch old-time hockey, it's a good thing.
Watched some of the game the other night. Not overly impressed to tell you the truth. The game itself was more wide open, but I just found it ... lacking.
I can understand you feeling that you are missing something when watching the old games, if you are not from that era.
I always said that you just don't watch a game with your eyes, you experience it with your emotions. Back then, the excitement of a game like that to the fans would be much more intense compared to fans watching the games today. Its hard to explain, but there were true rivalries then, you had much more of an emotional attachment to your team. You didn't see the team play as much as you would today, so every game was special.
Make no mistake, the games were hard fought and exciting. There was plenty of skill and intensity.
I don't want to get into the discussion of how players today could skate better etc. That is not the point at all and there can be no comparisons because of a lot of factors that can't be properly analysed.
The point is, did the fans back then have an emotional attachment to their team and were lifted out of their seats when great plays were made. No doubt about it.
Nope sorry. I do watch hockey with my eyes, atleast as much, if not more than with my heart. The product on the ice, was not what I was led to believe, I would be seeing. The players, who were legends I've heard about, were all far superior in the stories of any over 50 hockey fan I've ever listened to, than they were on the ice the other night.
I see, but you can't base things on one game and I really believe that if you weren't around to appreciate the hockey and the emotions at that time, then of course, you might not be able to appreciate the hockey being played then.
I could write pages of how emotional the games were and how intense the rivalries were, but it would not help. You HAD to experience it first hand at the time.
Its just like someone writing a book on the 1972 Summit Series. Unless they lived through it, they couldn't possibly have captured the true emotions.
You could watch that old game and many others and you still wouldn't be able to truly appreciate the game or the players back then. Too many things are different- even the presentation of the game on TV.
Of course, reading or hearing about the legends gives you images of how great they were. And if you don't see them at their best in a single game, it doesn't mean they were not great players.
I could watch plenty of games today where I see supposed great players do nothing in a particular game.
How true. But could you watch, what was supposed to be, basically an all-star game featuring some of the all-time greats of the game and not be impressed. It's not that the players weren't good, but the way everyone talks about the old-time hockey, and with the number of all-time greats in the game, I just thought I was going to see a barn-burner of a game. Ya, know like a game between Calgary and Edmonton in the 80's. What I got was a game with less skill, and physical play than what's in the current league.
I just expected more.
I think we take for granted the way the game has changed. More Physical play, better positioning and possibly most important, the slapshot. Watching a guy rush down the wing only to take a weak 30-40mph wrister is depressing.
I had the chance to spend some time with Bobby Baun at a resort north of Toronto a couple of summers back. What amazed me was that he was not bigger. I remember watching him on TV growing up and the crunching checks he delivered. Nearly every description of him on TV and in the media was prefaced with "Hard Rock" Bobby Baun.Turns out it was the Bobby Baun broken leg game. Left on a stretcher and got his oot filled with anaesthetic and went back for the OT. Was interviewed after the game and said he figured it was just a pinched nerve, even though he heard it crack just before he collapsed.
Watched last night's game and enjoyed it immensely. Grew up in northern Quebec before cable and had never seen an English HNIC braodcast in it's entirety before.
Turns out it was the Bobby Baun broken leg game. Left on a stretcher and got his oot filled with anaesthetic and went back for the OT. Was interviewed after the game and said he figured it was just a pinched nerve, even though he heard it crack just before he collapsed.
Loved the lack of commercials and seeing Mikita, Topazzini, Boomer and Harry Howell between periods. coincidentally enough Mr. Topazzini celebrated his 75th this week.
Next Saturday, the last game Leafs fans can point to with pride. Can't wait. Wonder if it'll be in colour.
I watched the game, but this is exactly why I laugh when people say that Gordie Howe was better then Wayne Gretzky, IMO not even same ball park. Hockey has evolved hugely since those days. The skill set that the player had back then you could probably compare to Junior A hockey nowadays. No knock on the pasts greats, just todays hockey is just so good.
Tell me again why the game is so great today?
Gordie Howe was in his mid-30's in this game. Gretzky was noticeably slowed down in his mid-30's as well.
Yeah, the game today is so much better - the trap, shoot the puck in and chase it, prearranged fights, goaltenders built like lacrosse goalies, penalty after penalty, goals only scored from scrambles, players fraternizing before games, overpaid and whining players, players too lazy to skate so they hook and hold and so on.
Tell me again why the game is so great today? A lot of people in the States are staying away in droves. Hockey has evolved - but into what?
I am not necessarily talking about the game as a whole rather then the skill level. I would put all the greats back then against any team in the NHL now a days and it would be a blowout for today’s team and if you think otherwise well... I guess you are just fooling yourself. Sure back then the players had heart and they played it for the love of the game and so on but the overall talent was pretty minimal.