You are SO right.
I tried the new tee bird discs tonight and hated them both.
Though, I only got to try them on short holes (a 9-hole course with only short distances 150-250 feet) - since they were playing league on the main course.
They might work better for me when having more open longer spaces to throw them, but looking at the few short holes I tried to use them tonight, they were too heavy for me. Tailed off to the left way too soon. My small 150 g was much much straighter and easier to throw.
Oh well, I learned a valuble lesson - and I guess the purchase wasn't all bad, since I will probably be able to use these discs a year or two from now, when I have gotten stronger and better.
I have bought almost all my discs from
http://www.discsport.se/ - a Swedish online store.
Ya I figured you wouldn't like those TeeBirds at that weight. 175g is the max weight for drivers and you need a very powerful arm with a lot of snap in your wrist for disc's of that weight to work properly.
I re-read our conversation you and I have been having and I want to clarify a few things and I made a mistake on a disc.
I recommend that you get a Dominator in *Champion* plastic but I have realized that those disc's are not available in Champion plastic
their only available in GStar or Blizzard plastic. I personally like the GStar plastic wayyyyy more than the Blizzard plastic...Not a fan of Blizzard plastic at all
As I'm a huge fan of Champion plastic, a replacement disc for the Dominator is a Shryke. Their a little faster and a better glider to keep it in the fairway...I highly recommend one in Champion plastic that will act like a long distance TeeBird.
Shryke:
Speed = 13
Glide = 6
Turn = -1
Fade = 2
I also want to clarify when you purchase disc's in the future and keeping to that 170g weight for drivers and 172g for midrange rule. I gave you those weights to use as a blueprint and told you to only ADD no more than a couple of grams max but what I failed to mention was that's it's OK to REMOVE a couple of grams max as well. The general rule to adding or removing weight from a disc only depends on its "Turn" rating.....understable vs overstable.
The lower a disc's turn rating IE: -1, -2, -3 and so on...The disc should weigh a little heavier as these disc's are understable and only get worse as those numbers get lower.
The higher a disc's turn rating IE: 0, +1, +2 and so on...The disc should weigh a little lighter as these disc's are overstable and only get worse as those numbers increase.
I apologize and I hope that has clarified it for your but if you still any questions then please ask away.
Wow! What a store
I literally just spent the last 3 hours browsing through all the disc's and I came away quite impressed. They have a really nice selection and they have some disc's that are hard to find here in Canada.
I was also thinking or your new disc's and I'm assuming that's where you got them from so I checked out their return policy...they seem pretty customer friendly and you have 14 days to return anything if your not satisfied. Your just have to return the disc's like you got them with their original packaging and pay the return shipping...TBH I would return those TeeBirds and Roadrunner.
Depending if you want to return those new disc's or not, I did some shopping for you and found some disc's that really caught my eye and I think would be perfect
I'll describe how I found them on the website so you can check them out....
I clicked on the link you provided and scrolled to the bottom of the page to all the manufacturers they carry.
I clicked on Innova
The Innova catalog opened and it was on page 1 of 9.
On that first page were Champion Stryker and they had one in sky blue @ 170g and another one in neon yellow @ 170g
*I highly recommend you picking one up*
Page 2 was awesome and it had...
DX Cobra @ 172g in yellow or white
*your choice to pick one up but I really like them*
Champion TeeBird Ken Klimo edition
(best TeeBirds on the market IMHO)
They have a bunch of colors @ 168g and YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE ONE! Since the TeeBirds are stable (turn=0) it's OK to drop a few grams off your 170g blueprint weight...do not purchase any at 171g or heavier and do not purchase anything lighter than 168g please. Personally, I'd go for the orange one since red, blue and orange seem to be the best colors for Innova disc's
Champion Roadrunner: they had a couple of different colors in both 170g and 171g
Champion Valykrie: I know you already have one but I spied a yellow one @ 171g
Champion Firebird @ 171g in neon orange. I highly recommend you getting one as everybody needs a forearm (or sidearm) disc and Firebirds are some of the best. They also work quite well when you throw them on your backhand and need the disc to go straight then take a hard left.
Page 3
I noticed a GStar Dominator in metallic purple @ 171g and one in metallic emerald @ 169g. Since their very simular to a TeeBird, I'd drop that gram and go for the 169g metallic emerald one.
Page 6 blew my mind!
DX Roc in Bottom Stamp
These disc's are so hard to find here in Canada that their almost a myth! They are one of, if not the best midrange disc's on the market. They fly dead straight and that store just happens to have a pair of them in Steel Blue @ 172g. You have to get your hands on one of those disc's!
So if you do return those 3 disc's (which you should) then I'd definitely replace them with these 3......
Champion TeeBird Ken Klimo edition in orange plastic @ 168g....you gotta get this disc!
DX Roc Bottom Stamp in Steel Blue @ 172g....theirs no way I would leave that disc on the shelf as its a must have!
Champion Firebird in Neon Orange @ 171g
If you want to go all out then I highly recommend picking up that Champion Stryker in Sky Blue or Neon Yellow @ 170g. I'm also quite interested in that GStar Dominator in Metallic Emerald @ 169g
I hope I've helped and let me know how it goes if you decided to keep these new disc's or returned them and purchased more. Also, please feel free to ask me about any other disc's that we haven't talked about or any new disc's and their weights that your thinking of purchasing...I don't want to see ya waist your hard earned money on disc's just to be disappointed.