Boston Herald Anton Khudobin looks gone, John Tavares still a wait-and-see

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RB, they have no depth, at either level, what Rask is playing all 84 games now, because that's exactly what you're
whining about in your post, if AK is gone, are you trusting Vladar to be the primary starter in Providence, and becoming the 1C option if either Rask or McIntyre are hurt.....

You really think Boston isn't going to find a backup goalie? This isn't a situation where McIntyre is the de-facto backup for next season. He may compete for a spot with someone, but he's no shoe-in. Also, McIntyre could very well end up back in Providence. If someone claims him, he needs to stay in the NHL. Next years Providence goalies could very well be McIntyre/Vladar.
 

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Signing a player for your affiliate is a heck of lot less important and/or difficult as signing someone to play in the NHL. Vladar will be in Providence. PBruins can sign one if need be. If Atlanta has no one in net, they, like all ECHL teams will sign one- if you look through the ECHL clubs, most of the players in that league are not property of an NHL team.
yea, but also, Hook, Boston has to make a call as to where that affiliation goes past 2018, whether or not Atlanta, as a franchise survives past this season....the Bruins, by rule of the affiliation, have to have a contracted player assigned to the ECHL affiliate, no matter who it is, as Vladar has filled that variable the last 2 seasons
 

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RB, they have no depth, at either level, what Rask is playing all 84 games now, because that's exactly what you're
whining about in your post, if AK is gone, are you trusting Vladar to be the primary starter in Providence, and becoming the 1C option if either Rask or McIntyre are hurt.....
1. You don’t know what the word whining means.

2. They haven’t played an 84 game schedule in a long time.

3. If they decide McIntyre is their best option as backup, they aren’t going to keep him in Providence.

You make absolutely no sense
 

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yea, but also, Hook, Boston has to make a call as to where that affiliation goes past 2018, whether or not Atlanta, as a franchise survives past this season....

Well, it's just an ECHL team with barely any players from Boston there- what did we have there, 2 all last season? If Atlanta folds, we'll find another E team to affiliate with, and if not, it is common to sign affiliate agreements with a team for a specific player. It was done all the time in the old Central Hockey League.
 

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The Bruins will bring in a goalie. The level he is at is undetermined, but next season, Boston will have:

Rask
XXXX

XXXX
Vladar

With McIntyre factoring in somewhere. If he's the backup, then that's excellent. That means he had a great camp and won the job. Whoever Boston signs, will be waived or maybe they're on a two-way deal and they're just sent down, filling the other Providence goalie spot.

And vice versa. Boston signs Goalie XXXX and he wins the backup job, and McIntyre is waived. I struggle to see someone claiming him as their backup, unless they are in dire need of a goalie for some reason. This isn't a Subban situation.
 

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Well, it's just an ECHL team with barely any players from Boston there- what did we have there, 2 all last season? If Atlanta folds, we'll find another E team to affiliate with, and if not, it is common to sign affiliate agreements with a team for a specific player. It was done all the time in the old Central Hockey League.
that's the rule, otherwise it's not an affiliation, Hook, remember how Nashville landed in Atlanta the 2nd half of last season, after terminating the affiliation in Norfolk mid-season....
 

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that's the rule, otherwise it's not an affiliation, Hook, remember how Nashville landed in Atlanta the 2nd half of last season, after terminating the affiliation in Norfolk mid-season....

Sorry Hutch, I am not following you here. I know how the affiliations work, and am just pointing out that if Atlanta folds, it isn't a big deal from the Bruins point of view. It isn't a big deal because the ECHL affiliation barely gets used.They can find a new ECHL team, or just place players as needed with different teams.
 

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Sorry Hutch, I am not following you here. I know how the affiliations work, and am just pointing out that if Atlanta folds, it isn't a big deal from the Bruins point of view. It isn't a big deal because the ECHL affiliation barely gets used.They can find a new ECHL team, or just place players as needed with different teams.

the point is, Boston is required to assign a player as Vladar was to Atlanta by ECHL RULE, you cannot violate that bylaw, and it has nothing to do with how the affiliation is used.... it is a REQUIREMENT, just as Providence is required to be affiliated by AHL bylaws.... see how that works
 
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Sorry Hutch, I am not following you here. I know how the affiliations work, and am just pointing out that if Atlanta folds, it isn't a big deal from the Bruins point of view. It isn't a big deal because the ECHL affiliation barely gets used.They can find a new ECHL team, or just place players as needed with different teams.

In other words, they will always have a place(s) for prospects to play :nod:
 

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In other words, they will always have a place(s) for prospects to play :nod:
yea, which is why it doesn't appear a return to New England is in the cards for 2019, because the two logicals are Worcester and Portland, and they're hooked into both the New York franchises....based off how Worcester was run last year and that's been renewed and Portland's connection with Hartford and the Rangers, being multi-faceted, doesn't appear the Rangers are leaving here from what Drury stated when they came here.....
 

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the point is, Boston is required to assign a player as Vladar was to Atlanta by ECHL RULE, you cannot violate that bylaw, and it has nothing to do with how the affiliation is used.... it is a REQUIREMENT, just as Providence is required to be affiliated by AHL bylaws.... see how that works

If they have no one to place there, then the affiliation is cancelled. How is that a problem?
 

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Whoever the Bruins get to play backup should be someone who can push Rask a little bit. IMO Rask plays better when he feels a little heat.

Can Zane bring the heat? That might be one thing he wouldn't really do as he has been a project type goalie on a slow trajectory. I would think even if Zane becomes the backup there is probably little danger that he will take Tuuka's job.
 
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If they have no one to place there, then the affiliation is cancelled. How is that a problem?

Atlanta has to show just cause why the affiliation gets terminated, just like Norfolk canned the rep from Nashville that caused that termination last season...rare, but it does occur, but you cannot arbitrarily cancel an affiliation at this point on an existing contract.... it's a league requirement, 1 Contracted G/D/F if you are an affiliated franchise and that's always been the rule, even when most of us have been in a league where that rule doesn't apply....
 

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Atlanta has to show just cause why the affiliation gets terminated, just like Norfolk canned the rep from Nashville that caused that termination last season...rare, but it does occur, but you cannot arbitrarily cancel an affiliation at this point on an existing contract.... it's a league requirement, 1 Contracted G/D/F if you are an affiliated franchise and that's always been the rule, even when most of us have been in a league where that rule doesn't apply....

Okay, I don't have the time or interest in tracking down the ECHL by-laws so I trust you are correct on this- you seem to get into the lower minor leagues, and I haven't followed them since the Central league folded/merged with the E. The affiliation rules were a bit different there. Either way, it isn't a major concern for the Bruins is it? We are talking about players that are a long way from NHL if they are getting sent to the E. I cannot imagine this is affecting how the Bruins decide to promote prospects to the NHL club. As it stands, the Bruins have 2 minor pro goalies, Zane and Vladar. Zane might be in the NHL, that leave Vladar. They can sign a goalie to play in ECHL if they have to and it won't be hard. A two-way deal for a veteran cage creature to assign to the E and call up to Prov if needed. The PBruins can sign a veteran goalie to back up Vladar. Either way, the situation in Atlanta is not going to affect whether Zane makes the Bruins or not.
 

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RB, they have no depth, at either level, what Rask is playing all 84 games now, because that's exactly what you're
whining about in your post, if AK is gone, are you trusting Vladar to be the primary starter in Providence, and becoming the 1C option if either Rask or McIntyre are hurt.....

This is exactly what I want, for Zane to be the backup in Boston, and Vladar to be the #1 in PRO and get the majority of the starts.

You can always find a decent veteran backup for PRO. They are plentiful.
 
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I think this loss with hurt the B's, Dobby was always capable of putting up a decent few starts when needed, he also pushed Rask due to competition.
 
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You really think Boston isn't going to find a backup goalie? This isn't a situation where McIntyre is the de-facto backup for next season. He may compete for a spot with someone, but he's no shoe-in. Also, McIntyre could very well end up back in Providence. If someone claims him, he needs to stay in the NHL. Next years Providence goalies could very well be McIntyre/Vladar.
They are talking to the accountant who played for Chicago against Winnipeg and shut them down
 

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