Value of: Andrew Copp

[Prairie Habs]

Copp this year has big Matt Belesky energy. Buyer beware.

 

[broc]

Hard to say. If we had gotten better draft capitol at the deadline from the guys we moved I'd be more inclined to make an offer but honestly it's hard to say.

I'd not spend a first on Copp especially not ours which is a lottery pick. But Jets fans would be within their rights to seek a 1st especially given the recent returns on guys like Goodrow/ Coleman (granted that was at the deadline). I'd argue Copp is as valuable if not more so than those two. But Sabres can't possibly meet that price.

Then you can look at guys like Mitts who a straight swap could make sense. Mitts is cheaper while Copp will get a raise but Sabres fans might be hard pressed to give up Mitts for a 3C type who is gonna be more expensive to a team with little cap to work with as is.

I have no interest in trading Samulesson, Peterka, Pekar etc aka our recent 2nds.

so I can't really answer your question. I guess the Boston 2nd for starters and work it out from there is the best I can do to answer your question.

No interest in mittelstadt. At all.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

No interest in mittelstadt. At all.

Mittelstadt has had a bit of a coming out party with Buffalo over the past couple weeks, I bet they'd hold onto their guy and see what they have there, not trade him for a middle 6 guy having a career year who is going to get a questionable contract.

 

[BKarchitect]

Copp this year has big Matt Belesky energy. Buyer beware.

How? He seems more like a Hyman/Rust player who was fairly skilled as a younger prospect but cut his teeth being an awesome grind line kinda dude before everything coming together offensively at a new level where he has the game to compliment more skilled guys. Which gives him incredible role and positional versatility.

 

[Heldig]

I really hope the Jets can sign Copp to a reasonable extension AND have him on the protected list for expansion.

 

[BKarchitect]

I really hope the Jets can sign Copp to a reasonable extension AND have him on the protected list for expansion.

Doesn't it basically comes down to:

- Re-sign Copp to a new long-term deal, leave Appleton exposed in the expansion draft - with him likely getting taken (I guess maybe DeMelo would be of some interest too assuming the Jets protect Stanley...but to me Appleton is a prime guy to pick for Seattle - youngish with a versatile game and upward trajectory).

Or

- Trade Copp for significant asset(s) and protect Appleton, banking on his continued growth to fill a Copp-esque role for a fraction of the price that Copp's new deal will be while stocking assets and saving cap space.

I don't think there is any chance the Jets simply let Seattle taken Copp.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Doesn't it basically comes down to:

- Re-sign Copp to a new long-term deal, leave Appleton exposed in the expansion draft - with him likely getting taken (I guess maybe DeMelo would be of some interest too assuming the Jets protect Stanley...but to me Appleton is a prime guy to pick for Seattle - youngish with a versatile game and upward trajectory).

Or

- Trade Copp for significant asset(s) and protect Appleton, banking on his continued growth to fill a Copp-esque role for a fraction of the price that Copp's new deal will be while stocking assets and saving cap space.

I don't think there is any chance the Jets simply let Seattle taken Copp.

Also what wpg wants to trade copp, Samberg 1st for a great d and leave demelo and Stanley unprotected. Obviously very wishful thinking probably not realistic.

 

[bumblebeeman]

Doesn't it basically comes down to:

- Re-sign Copp to a new long-term deal, leave Appleton exposed in the expansion draft - with him likely getting taken (I guess maybe DeMelo would be of some interest too assuming the Jets protect Stanley...but to me Appleton is a prime guy to pick for Seattle - youngish with a versatile game and upward trajectory).

Or

- Trade Copp for significant asset(s) and protect Appleton, banking on his continued growth to fill a Copp-esque role for a fraction of the price that Copp's new deal will be while stocking assets and saving cap space.

I don't think there is any chance the Jets simply let Seattle taken Copp.

I'd be happy with either of those

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

The other good thing about Copp for the Jets is when Lowry has been injured he fills in really nice as a 3C and helps make others better. My fear is that Copp's agent is hell bent on forcing Copp out of Wpg. When Copp has scored this season I often wished it was someone else to take away ammo from his contract demands. But then I think if we are forced to move him that all those extra goals will come in handy.

 

[RRenegade]

I think Copp's new offense is mostly for real. He can be a very solid 3rd line centre and can contribute as a second line winger & #2 PP net front guy. He will likely be looking for a much bigger deal than Lowry just signed.

If he is traded before the expansion (which I suspect) he should appeal to any team that does not have Winnipeg's forward depth.
If the Jets can get a BIG young-ish top 4 RD for Copp+ , that would be great.

Otherwise, I'd hate to lose Appleton who wouldn't be protected.

 

[TS Quint]

Mittelstadt has had a bit of a coming out party with Buffalo over the past couple weeks, I bet they'd hold onto their guy and see what they have there, not trade him for a middle 6 guy having a career year who is going to get a questionable contract.

He is for sure getting a "questionable" contract?

 

[Heldig]

Doesn't it basically comes down to:

- Re-sign Copp to a new long-term deal, leave Appleton exposed in the expansion draft - with him likely getting taken (I guess maybe DeMelo would be of some interest too assuming the Jets protect Stanley...but to me Appleton is a prime guy to pick for Seattle - youngish with a versatile game and upward trajectory).

Or

- Trade Copp for significant asset(s) and protect Appleton, banking on his continued growth to fill a Copp-esque role for a fraction of the price that Copp's new deal will be while stocking assets and saving cap space.

I don't think there is any chance the Jets simply let Seattle taken Copp.

Jets are going to lose a decent / good player in the expansion draft. Most likely Appleton, maybe Stanley (unless they protect him over DeMelo). They will not leave Copp unprotected. If they trade Copp before the draft for a defenseman, then they have to expose BOTH DeMelo and Stanley.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

He is for sure getting a "questionable" contract?

Likely since he is having a career year in a shortened season, just doesn’t smell like it will be a steal

 

[TS Quint]

Likely since he is having a career year in a shortened season, just doesn’t smell like it will be a steal

So did Lowry and his contract looks great to me.

 

[DRW204]

Prior this year Copp has been sparingly used in the top 6. Like a few games a year, if that. This year he's been given more of an opportunity in the top 6 and production shows. He's also been on pp2 which has been dynamite for the Jets. He's typically a strong fwd defensively and usually, relative to the team, rates pretty well in the shot or goal share stats. Can play c or w, and pk. He's a good, smart player. He doesn't play an overly flashy game of a typical top 6er, but he just gets shit done. Substance over style.

I think 4ishM is far for him. He's more consistent offensively year to year than Lowry, and can produce when given top 6 or pp opportunity. Lowry was given that years ago and didn't really explode offensively.