Value of: Alexey Toropchenko
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Why would the blues trade him? He's cheap, young, and we are retooling around younger players. Unless someone offers an overpay it's better just to keep him
No. He ain't being traded for 2nd or 3rd. Why would we? Blues don't want to be awful like sharks or blackhawks, we want to return to playoffs sooner than later. and you don't do that by trading youngish guys on good contracts who play their role quite well for middling draft picks. I suspect if he's traded it's part of a package for someone we view as more of a core player, presumably either a 2nd line center or top 4 d.
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I can see that, but we’re talking what the value is.. your response doesn’t address that.
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Value then is at least a 1st because no way blues trade him for lesser pick. Not saying someone would necessarily pay 1st, or that we would even take it, but anything less we hang up.
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I can see why you’d value him there. Good quality bottom sizer
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I would agree with that. There's no reason to trade him for a 2nd/3rd round pick, but I'd listen if someone offered us a similarly valued young defenseman. If we can trade a depth player to help address our biggest weakness then we'd have to consider it, but in general I'm not interested in moving Torpo.
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Very little interest in moving Toropchenko. Solid bottom six winger on a good contract with size and a nose for the net. Great attitude and character off the ice as well.
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Ryan reaves and Martin hanzal returned late 1st rd picks before.
I doubt the Blues would move torpedo for anything less than that.
Young, fast, big body, plays a consistent brand of North-South hockey, perfect bottom 6’er for any team in the league. Blues most likely consider him part of the secondary core long term.
I doubt the Blues would move torpedo for anything less than that.
Young, fast, big body, plays a consistent brand of North-South hockey, perfect bottom 6’er for any team in the league. Blues most likely consider him part of the secondary core long term.
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Just wondering, what rumors are you referring to? I've seen some speculation online, mostly on team fansites, but no real source connecting teams to Toropchenko.
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To echo others, it ain’t happening barring an overpay.
If he’s traded for a 2nd/3rd, we’d just be hoping that kid turns into a guy like him in 5 years. He’s still young enough for the future potential core we’re building.
If he’s traded for a 2nd/3rd, we’d just be hoping that kid turns into a guy like him in 5 years. He’s still young enough for the future potential core we’re building.
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I think Toropchenko’s true market value lies somewhere around a 3rd or 4th. At this point he’s a fourth line player, who’s capable of sliding up to the third line in a pinch. But he does bring a lot of positive attributes and I like the way he plays.
Personally I wouldn’t move him for that, nor do I think the Blues would l. Realistically, I just don’t see anyway a team offer something that would make it worthwhile for the Blues to move him (I.E a first or second).
Personally I wouldn’t move him for that, nor do I think the Blues would l. Realistically, I just don’t see anyway a team offer something that would make it worthwhile for the Blues to move him (I.E a first or second).
The best post in this thread is our biggest resident homer stating he’s not even sure we would take a 1st round pick for Toropchenko.
Classic.
Classic.
The best post in this thread is our biggest resident homer stating he’s not even sure we would take a 1st round pick for Toropchenko.
Classic.
You can't replace Toro for what anyone would pay for him. It's not worth it to trade him.
You absolutely trade a 4th liner for a 1st round pick without any questions asked. We can figure out how to replace him later.
If it hadn't been for getting Sunny out of the Reaves trade with the Pens it would have absolutely not been worth it.
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What an absurd assertion. You absolutely without a single doubt trade a fourth line player for a first. Every single time. Just because the Blues made a poor pick does not mean that was a bad trade without Sundqvist being involved.
Pretty absurd assumption that just because someone is a 4th liner than you trade them with out a doubt for a 1st.
Why is that absurd? You absolutely take your chances that you will select a really good player with that 1st round pick.
Look at the first rounders the Blues have drafted over the years. You focus on Kostin but what about Thomas, Tage Thompson, Fabbri, Schwartz, Tarasenko, Oshie, Perron, Neighbours, Snuggerud, etc. The 3 from last year (Dvorsky, Stenberg, Lindstein) look good too.
The Blues are a good drafting team so I think our chances of not drafting a bust are strong. Not moving Toropchenko for the chance to get another guy like the ones I listed above would be absolutely horrid asset management.
This, and I'm a big Toropchenko fan. With that 1st round pick, you could potentially get a top 6 forward or top 4 D. 4th liners are much easier to acquire and much less important in terms of building a contending team.
Although, I do think that Toropchenko has potential to be a solid 3rd line guy. He has improved each season and he comes off as the type of guy that is always looking to get better.
