Prospect Info: Albany Devils and ECHL talk (2015-16 season)
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@ DD, Trenton is close enough to Newark and really doesn't cannibalize the fanbase. AHL hockey would be interesting there, especially when the Flyers play. What's interesting is the Flyers on Trenton for Allentown
However, there are cities DYING for an AHL affliate after losing them to the west coast.
However, there are cities DYING for an AHL affliate after losing them to the west coast.
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It's too bad Albany really hasn't worked out because there are many long time diehard NJ Devils fans in the Albany area who support the AHL team.
However, it's a lousy minor league city when it comes to attendance.
I would prefer Trenton for mainly selfish reasons since I could go see a lot of games if I choose to due to the close proximity.
I think Shero will start giving our AHL franchise better resources going forward.
Real tangible stuff compared to Jeff's "Paint the town Red" slogan and banner for the former ECHL Trenton Devils.
If the AHL team moves to Trenton I think Shero will market them and engage in much better fan relations similar to what they do up in Wilkes Barre.
The first order of biz should be to change the team name back to the Titans, if they legally can.
If not, do a fan contest for a new name, our AHL squad does not and should not have to be Devils.
Unfortunately it alienates quite a few hockey fans south and west of Trenton and Shero should want decent sized crowds at the AHL games.
Lou and our prior owners really could care less about attendance at AHL games and it's not a great atmosphere for our future stars to play in.
A Trenton vs Allentown rivalry can be a good one.
I'd move the team to Atlantic City, Toms River or Trenton myself, as I've mentioned previously. Expand the fanbase. I listed Trenton last because of the poor experience the Trenton Devils had, which led to a brief return of the Trenton Titans, Flyers affiliation and all. But now Trenton is hockeyless once again.
I wonder how long the other Lamoriello will last as GM (of Albany) now that his father isn't with the organization anymore.
I wonder how long the other Lamoriello will last as GM (of Albany) now that his father isn't with the organization anymore.
Zippy316
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Can we get English Devils massive depth chart in here somehow.
It was an extremely thorough job, would probably be pretty useful somewhere on the first page.
It was an extremely thorough job, would probably be pretty useful somewhere on the first page.
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Devils rookies will play in tourney in Buffalo next month
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...es_and_bruins_prospec.html#incart_more_sports
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...es_and_bruins_prospec.html#incart_more_sports
HunteDxEntitY
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They don't have a TV deal. AFAIK the only legal way to watch is using AHL Live, which is a subscription-based service.
and, in its current state, absolutely not worth the price, IMO. Hundreds of dollars is no price for something that looks like any stream you'd find illegally.
I'd move the team to Newark. Why not?
And, by the way, how is it that on August 21st the AHL doesn't have its schedule done for this season?
NJDevs26
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Just happened to see this looking for the AHL schedule a couple days ago:
http://theahl.com/making-of-the-ahl-schedule-is-a-critical-task-p199045
And the NBA schedule was only released a week and a half ago.
zetajerk
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Wow, you guys are bumming me out. I'm all hyped for the A Devils season with the new management. I just got a new road jersey today. Probably going to buy a ticket package.
If it happens, this would be the second time an AHL team moves right after I started following it. Calgary broke my heart last year.
If it happens, this would be the second time an AHL team moves right after I started following it. Calgary broke my heart last year.
While unfortunately the Albany Devils may not stay in Albany - it's a one-year lease for a reason - I'd be shocked if they moved anywhere close to where the New Jersey Devils play. So that's at least some consolation for you, that those locations are probably out of the question, making it more likely they'd stay where they are.
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They seem to be kicking the promotion and marketing up a notch. I've lived in Albany for six years and until recently you never heard a peep out of them. I'm not the only one who's optimistic about the new management. There was also the marketing brainstorming meeting with local businesses. I can only hope they don't leave, because I don't want to have to follow the Comets or Crunch
I was thinking, what other options do they have? The thing about the NHL Devils is they don't have much of a following outside of NJ and southern/central NY state. Anywhere in New England is Bruins territory and anywhere in Pennsylvania probably won't be too receptive. In terms of proximity to Newark and quality of the facility, Albany is pretty nice. I go to games and see plenty of NJ fans. A healthy front office and a promising team could turn things around at the gate. Outside of moving them to the Rock, what could serve their purposes better?
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They seem to be kicking the promotion and marketing up a notch. I've lived in Albany for six years and until recently you never heard a peep out of them. I'm not the only one who's optimistic about the new management. There was also the marketing brainstorming meeting with local businesses. I can only hope they don't leave, because I don't want to have to follow the Comets or Crunch
I was thinking, what other options do they have? The thing about the NHL Devils is they don't have much of a following outside of NJ and southern/central NY state. Anywhere in New England is Bruins territory and anywhere in Pennsylvania probably won't be too receptive. In terms of proximity to Newark and quality of the facility, Albany is pretty nice. I go to games and see plenty of NJ fans. A healthy front office and a promising team could turn things around at the gate. Outside of moving them to the Rock, what could serve their purposes better?
Go to games in Albany and have fun.
Try to bring others to games too to expose them to the A-Devs.
Zippy316
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They seem to be kicking the promotion and marketing up a notch. I've lived in Albany for six years and until recently you never heard a peep out of them. I'm not the only one who's optimistic about the new management. There was also the marketing brainstorming meeting with local businesses. I can only hope they don't leave, because I don't want to have to follow the Comets or Crunch
I was thinking, what other options do they have? The thing about the NHL Devils is they don't have much of a following outside of NJ and southern/central NY state. Anywhere in New England is Bruins territory and anywhere in Pennsylvania probably won't be too receptive. In terms of proximity to Newark and quality of the facility, Albany is pretty nice. I go to games and see plenty of NJ fans. A healthy front office and a promising team could turn things around at the gate. Outside of moving them to the Rock, what could serve their purposes better?
Theres nothing really. Until an arena is built in state suitable for minor hockey, we have nothing. I would love to see the Devils try to get an arena in the Woodbridge or Sayreville or even New Brunswick area but thats a longshot. Their best option may be to piggyback on a Rutgers D1 hockey move if it ever happens.
The biggest problem is constantly branding the minor league teams as the Devils when they are in primarily enemy territory.
There are alot of cities all over New England looking for AHL affliates with the migration of teams to the west.
zetajerk
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Yeah, but if they were to leave Albany because attendance wasn't high enough and then go into New England or PA keeping the Devils moniker as they always do, I gotta call shenanigans.
I'm biased, but Albany makes sense more than the alternatives. Idk if they're a money pit if the TUC averages 3400, but it's not like poor AHL attendance has bothered New Jersey for the past 15 years. It seems as if the local politicians and businesses want them to stay. We'll have to wait and see. It's a shame Lou and Co did so much harm to the market over the years.
They did leave for Lowell and the Canes replaced them. How did the Canes do during their time in Albany?
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Found the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/25/s...ave-their-hotbeds-for-warmer-climes.html?_r=0
Click to read...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/25/s...ave-their-hotbeds-for-warmer-climes.html?_r=0
Click to read...
zetajerk
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But of all the teams that left for CA, only Worcester has an open building. Adirondack, Manchester, and Norfolk will have the ECHL next year and OKC is too far away. I don't think the Devils would have the power to force the ECHL out. Worcester is a Bruins affiliate or bust. It could be another Lowell waiting to happen.
I don't know how long the ECHL thing is for but you can bet the preference is for AHL hockey.
ECHL is a tough sell, even in Trenton with the Titans and it was a model franchise early on.
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