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Cor

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Jericho is a legend but if you put the title on him, how can you argue you’re different from the WWE.

Page is the young, upcoming star, but there’s people not sure if he’s the guy.
 

Morozov

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Jericho seems like the type of dude who would just put on heaps of weight to make the young guy really work through the match and need to do more heavy lifting.
 

TD Charlie

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Jericho can put on as much weight as he wants as far as I’m concerned. He still looks the part for the top draw heel, plays it better than anyone else in the world, and he’s never not been capable of giving us a main event caliber match.

This extra 100 pounds he’s found since his raw debut hasn’t hurt him at all.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Jericho can put on as much weight as he wants as far as I’m concerned. He still looks the part for the top draw heel, plays it better than anyone else in the world, and he’s never not been capable of giving us a main event caliber match.

This extra 100 pounds he’s found since his raw debut hasn’t hurt him at all.
I mean, he did exactly that for his NJPW run and shift to a brawler style.

his matches aren’t particularly exciting anymore if they don’t have a no DQ stipulation involved anymore though
 

Morozov

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You can argue it both ways but for me Jericho is the logical choice holding the belt heading onto TV. Hugely recognisable name who we know can carry a show on the mic, and carry others on the mic, no question at all.

Hangman doesn't bring the presence in that way. You don't want your first TV to be Hangman as champ cutting promos, certainly not in comparison to Jericho.

Starting TV with a face champ is boring as well.
 
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Cor

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because they’re about to go on TNT and Jericho is the smart business move?

I never argued that.

But like I said, you can’t pretend you’re any different than the WWE when it comes to putting older wrestlers over younger ones.

So you do “what’s best for business”, but don’t claim you’re different.


Again, I’m not arguing for or against either guy winning because there is merits to both.
 

M.C.G. 31

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You can argue it both ways but for me Jericho is the logical choice holding the belt heading onto TV. Hugely recognisable name who we know can carry a show on the mic, and carry others on the mic, no question at all.

Hangman doesn't bring the presence in that way. You don't want your first TV to be Hangman as champ cutting promos, certainly not in comparison to Jericho.

Starting TV with a face champ is boring as well.
it’s also just a bad business move for the reasons you & I stated.

the way I see it, the “core” base of AEW: the ones there from All In, those ones are locked in. AEW has them already. they know Page. the audience they’re trying to win over? the NEW fans? they’ll have no idea who he is. Jericho is a much larger draw, name & presence and it’s not even freaking close.

smart business says Jericho is going into TNT as the champ. Simple as that.
 
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TD Charlie

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For me, Jericho as your first champ is the safe business move. Page would be bold

Honestly i think they’ll be just fine either way.
 

Morozov

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I never argued that.

But like I said, you can’t pretend you’re any different than the WWE when it comes to putting older wrestlers over younger ones.

So you do “what’s best for business”, but don’t claim you’re different.

Again, I’m not arguing for or against either guy winning because there is merits to both.

Sure they can, they had Kenny put PAC over at the start of the show. That's already different to what WWE does.

You can't just draw conclusions based on one result. When people talk about WWE in that regard, they're making judgement based on a long history of things they've watched. You're trying to make this leap based on one match, when again at the start of the show we already had one counter point to it anyway.
 

M.C.G. 31

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everyone knows Jericho going into TNT as champ = more viewers from the start because recognizable name as champ, which means opportunity to book awesome shows and RETAIN those fans, which means you make a STAR when the next top face inevitably takes the belt from Jericho, whether it’s Page in a rematch or Kenny or whoever.
 

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