People can stay clean for years then relapse. You never know when it comes to drug and alcohol addiction. Even if Nuke stays clean and completes the program for 6 months, it doesn’t mean he won’t relapse later. He may not, but 6 months is nothing
) but I suggested that the Avs could be looking to trade Rantanen during the off-season back in January and I was mocked by 'some superstars' around here...
You have to remember, that participating in the assistance program is probably what is preventing the Avs from terminating his contract. Taking part in it doesn't necessarily signal that he views himself having a problem/wanting help, it's just something he has to do if he doesn't want to get cut.
Yep, the demon is never truly gone.
Id bet against not completing it, but there's a lot of money at stake. Maybe.
You were not the only person calling for Moose to be moved, just one of those who could see more clearly into the path ahead.Not to toot my own horn (but I'm gonna
*If you are one of those superstars.... up yours!
I've mentioned this a handful of times for over a year. Same rough responses. Everyone's coming around.Not to toot my own horn (but I'm gonna
*If you are one of those superstars.... up yours!
My premise was that IF Landeskog was to show that he was able to continue his career, then that #96 was going to be the obvious one to move out because he was barely worth his current contract the way he's played this season, even though the points are there - let alone actually giving him a raise.
With how everything has played out, I don't think the Avs can continue to even pay him the $9.25M the way he's played for 95% of the regular season + the playoffs. The positive part for the Avs - as GM kyle dumbass has shown last season - there are plenty of NHL GMs who apparently DON'T WATCH THE GAMES and will make decisions like bringing in Erik Karlsson because of his 100+ point season last year.
So the Avs should get a really great haul when they make the correct decision and trade his ass out of town. As I suggested for an off-season trade a few weeks prior to the trade deadline - if Brady Tkachuk is indeed available as has been suggested and Rantanen is open to signing a massive extension with the Senators - we could be in line for a really fantastic trade if that should come true.
He's the exact kind of player we need, tbh.
A lot of people have been calling for Rantanen to be traded...You were not the only person calling for Moose to be moved, just one of those who could see more clearly into the path ahead.
I did not advocate for specific returns on a Moose trade.
I brought that idea up back in late November and people absolutely lost their minds. At the time I also wanted Lindholm which aged like milk in the regular season but he’s been fantastic for them since the playoffs startedNot to toot my own horn (but I'm gonna
*If you are one of those superstars.... up yours!
My premise was that IF Landeskog was to show that he was able to continue his career, then that #96 was going to be the obvious one to move out because he was barely worth his current contract the way he's played this season, even though the points are there - let alone actually giving him a raise.
With how everything has played out, I don't think the Avs can continue to even pay him the $9.25M the way he's played for 95% of the regular season + the playoffs. The positive part for the Avs - as GM kyle dumbass has shown last season - there are plenty of NHL GMs who apparently DON'T WATCH THE GAMES and will make decisions like bringing in Erik Karlsson because of his 100+ point season last year.
So the Avs should get a really great haul when they make the correct decision and trade his ass out of town. As I suggested for an off-season trade a few weeks prior to the trade deadline - if Brady Tkachuk is indeed available as has been suggested and Rantanen is open to signing a massive extension with the Senators - we could be in line for a really fantastic trade if that should come true.
He's the exact kind of player we need, tbh.
A dangerous assumption. Eventually, yes. I don't think Nuke ever suits up for the Avs again. But as of right now, the most likely way the situation is resolved is via a trade after he is re-instated. Which would be in November. Not ideal.
Several insiders have already come out saying, citing league sources, that this situation does not present the Avs with a valid reason for a termination.
I've seen contradicting reports to that as well. From my understanding it'll likely take the Avs also internally suspending him or some type of breach of team standards, ethics or his contract. In both cases this likely comes down to whether the Avs have the balls to do it.
I would have to assume, that this would be their last option. They would explore a trade first. Because there would be a fight with the NHLPA, and it could get ugly. And in the end the Avs might be clipped by a cap penalty anyways if the termination wasn't 100% valid.
If they choose to go that route it'll be a very ugly battle and some sort of settlement will have to be reached, probably similar to what happened with Mike Richards and the Kings. And the Kings handled that situation about as incompetently as they possibly could.
I think the Avalanche organization is smart enough to navigate the options for this. Knowing how some of this works on the corporate side, I wouldn't be shocked if there is already a lawyer or team exploring the options moving forward at this very moment. Not to act, but to present the options to management ASAP to have the information in their back pockets as this progresses.
The team has done a great job covering publicly for him and probably knows a lot more of what's going on than the fans do. Where there's smoke there is fire. This is clearly an issue that has been ongoing even before what happened in Seattle. If the Avs are smart they have good record keeping for their benefit. I still am sticking to the contract will be terminated, possibly by Nuke failing, or by the Avs. I'm sure they'll do their due diligence to shop him around, but I also don't think the Avs will take any chances.
That's exactly how it works:
At this point, going for a termination with the present knowledge we (and the league) have heard would be taking a chance. With such a big contract, I would not want to take a risk of a cap penalty.
Agreed. I just think the whole Cap issue popping up mid-November will make it hard for them. Obviously he'll need some conditioning and time to get back into the groove if they want to trade him so they can probably hide the cap for a bit, but I don't think they'll take that chance unless they know they have a trade.
I don't think so. There will be plenty of teams willing to give him a chance, he's that good. And it's not like he comes with some terrible legal baggage, unless some new info surfaces regarding what happened in Seattle or regarding his substance abuse.
