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Crystal Palace will only entertain offers for star forwards Eberechi Eze and Michael Olise that start at £60m or more for each player.
I believe someone said that Ibe was better than Sane back when they were both teens. I don't recall who anymore (and I'm not sure it was a Liverpool fan, let alone one who is still around).There's a youngster not fulfilling his early promise and then there's this: ex-Liverpool Jordon Ibe released for free at 28 years old from 5th tier National league side Ebbsfleet after only 1 appearance this season.
To think Bournemouth once paid a then club record transfer fee of 15M for him.
Ex-Liverpool wonderkid is released by non-league side Ebbsfleet
IIRC, for example LITN never rated him much back when he was hyped.
Yeah, and to be clear, I meant no shade. I thought Zelalem and Tyreece John-Jules were going to be incredible, off the top of my head.Physically he had gifts. But it happens
Yeah, and to be clear, I meant no shade. I thought Zelalem and Tyreece John-Jules were going to be incredible, off the top of my head.
Our old friend Curt (who I do not believe is still around) was driving the bus on that one. Started with Ibe being better than Sterling and evolved from thereI believe someone said that Ibe was better than Sane back when they were both teens. I don't recall who anymore (and I'm not sure it was a Liverpool fan, let alone one who is still around).
Yeah he had absolutely no end product. Never understood his hype. Ben Woodburn was another one.There's a youngster not fulfilling his early promise and then there's this: ex-Liverpool Jordon Ibe released for free at 28 years old from 5th tier National league side Ebbsfleet after only 1 appearance this season.
To think Bournemouth once paid a then club record transfer fee of 15M for him.
Ex-Liverpool wonderkid is released by non-league side Ebbsfleet
IIRC, for example LITN never rated him much back when he was hyped.
That was another Curt special. Woodburn was fun and had a great song, but dude just had no position on the fieldYeah he had absolutely no end product. Never understood his hype. Ben Woodburn was another one.
Reminds me of how some Pool fans claimed Harry Wilson was a better prospect than Mount because he had more goal contributions at Derby in 18-19That was another Curt special. Woodburn was fun and had a great song, but dude just had no position on the field
i mean…the last two years....(just kidding)Reminds me of how some Pool fans claimed Harry Wilson was a better prospect than Mount because he had more goal contributions at Derby in 18-19
Nevermind that Mount was 19 and Wilson was 22, still playing in the Championship
It's true, but it's (in general) a safe bet that if a guy is on loan in the Champ at 22 he is (probably) not going to be a star. I like Wilson, but I think it was clear that his ceiling was being a solid contributor on a mid table team, unless you were wowed by free kicks.i mean…the last two years....(just kidding)
But yeah I mean we hype up what we see the most of. I wasn’t a huge Wilson guy but he’s carved out a nice career. I’ve learned some scoring lessons on the way too.
I remember the standout Chelsea guy that I saw at youth level (that made the biggest impression on me in limited viewing) was actually Andres Christensen
For sure. You can say that both Mount and Wilson reached the best possible version for themselves. And kudos for them.It's true, but it's (in general) a safe bet that if a guy is on loan in the Champ at 22 he is (probably) not going to be a star. I like Wilson, but I think it was clear that his ceiling was being a solid contributor on a mid table team, unless you were wowed by free kicks.
Christensen, oh Christensen. A funny player. He's forged an excellent career - I mean, ffs, he played an hour of a successful UCL Final - and yet there's always been a sense that he could've been more. His skillset left a very high floor, but there's a ceiling he never quite got to. He's barely different today than he was when he was great on loan at Gladbach. He relies on the floor his skillset gives him, and gave him at Gladbach.
The Chelsea youngsters I was historically highest on were, in order, Loftus Cheek, Mount, and Gallagher.
Loftus Cheek, I will always wonder what would've been if not for the Achilles injury in 2019. If he's healthy, hes a nailed on starter in the Lampard season, and probably extremely kicks on. He was brilliant down the stretch for Sarri. I'm so happy he's now really thriving in Italy, he's always had everything there to be unplayable.
Mount is Mount. I hope he regains fitness and confidence and shows the world what he can do, I just wish it was at Chelsea. I think every Chelsea fan knew he was the goods, the question was just where he would show it. After he obliterated the Eredivisie, it was clear.
Gallagher's Championship loans at Charlton and Swansea sold me. At WBA I was thinking "put this guy in a team with a better coach and he'll thrive." Then he went to Palace and was brilliant. Now he's our captain, and we'll probably lose him because we blow.
I also really liked Patrick van Aanholt, who never hit the highs I hoped he would.
That's a very interesting one.@luiginb i know you mentioned this today in the other thread but Geertuida was at the West Ham x LFC game today. Probably a coincidence…