2023 NFL/NCAA/HS Football Thread

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

I like Nabers but he's got Danny Pennies and Tommy Doofus throwing him the ball

 

[Emperoreddy]

Must be nice having a QB

 

[Rhodes 81]

What the f*** Falcons

 

[Emperoreddy]

What is going on in Atlanta

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I actually like Penix, but I dont get that move. That Atlanta roster is pretty good and that division stinks. They should try to win now.

Not even bringing up the fact that they just paid Cousins a zillion dollars.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

What the f*** Falcons

I like it. They're adopting the Packers model of churning out QB. Draft a first rounder. Have him train behind a veteran.

It's worked for the Packers for 30+ years. More teams should learn that. Lol

 

[Saugus]

I know he had the knock as a system QB, but I’m surprised that McCarthy slid all the way to 10, and was taken after Penix.

 

[Rhodes 81]

I like it. They're adopting the Packers model of churning out QB. Draft a first rounder. Have him train behind a veteran.

It's worked for the Packers for 30+ years. More teams should learn that. Lol

I would cope by accepting this if I hadn't just argued against it 5 posts ago

We haven't had a decent pass rush in 10 years and finally have a good roster with a weak schedule and a division there for the taking and we do this at 8oa? Adding a decent pass rusher would have allowed us to basically waltz into the postseason.

 

[Saugus]

I would cope by accepting this if I hadn't just argued against it 5 posts ago

We haven't had a decent pass rush in 10 years and finally have a good roster with a weak schedule and a division there for the taking and we do this at 8oa? Adding a decent pass rusher would have allowed us to basically waltz into the postseason.

I’ve seen some galaxy brain takes saying that maybe the Falcons picked him so they can turn around and trade him to a desperate team that was hoping to pick him later.

I think that’s overthinking it though.

 

[mdj12784]

LOVE the Odunze pick for my Bears! I’ll be cautiously optimistic with Williams…

 

[Rhodes 81]

I’ve seen some galaxy brain takes saying that maybe the Falcons picked him so they can turn around and trade him to a desperate team that was hoping to pick him later.

I think that’s overthinking it though.

More likely Fontenot is a double agent still working for the Saints.

The absolute best case scenario here is that Kirk told them he was only going to play 2 more years and then Penix turns out to be good. In that scenario, you still wasted 2 years of the rookie contract on your 8oa pick, could have traded back to get him, and he's already 26 by the time he's playing.

 

[devilsblood]

LOVE the Odunze pick for my Bears! I’ll be cautiously optimistic with Williams…

I had heard Nabers to Giants and i do like the pick but Odunze’s profile has me a little jealous.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Love the Fashnu pick, Tyron Smith + Morgan Moses most likely won't make it all 17 games and if they do, you still need to find a LT in 2025. Would've loved Odunze but the Bears being a pick before them kinda screwed them there. Would've been nice to lose to the Commanders/NE last year.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

More likely Fontenot is a double agent still working for the Saints.

The absolute best case scenario here is that Kirk told them he was only going to play 2 more years and then Penix turns out to be good. In that scenario, you still wasted 2 years of the rookie contract on your 8oa pick, could have traded back to get him, and he's already 26 by the time he's playing.

Wish the Jets had made a move here, makes the Falcons little less crazy and Jets probably land Odunze. I don't get why the Falcons just didn't take Odunze themselves.

 

[Bcap88]

If cousins plays out his whole contract that would make penix 28 years old by the time it ends

 

[Davegarri]

I love that the Jets took OL. As an OL coach myself, I'm a big proponent of building from the OL out. Doesn't matter if you have Rodgers or me playing QB, if you can't block you won't do shit.

I admittedly haven't seen his film so I'll have to try and find some Penn St All-22 of him

 

[Bcap88]

I love that the Jets took OL. As an OL coach myself, I'm a big proponent of building from the OL out. Doesn't matter if you have Rodgers or me playing QB, if you can't block you won't do shit.

I admittedly haven't seen his film so I'll have to try and find some Penn St All-22 of him

Not a mauler, more finesse type tackle
Raw as a run blocker and plays high at time. He likely needs some time to develop but will start year one

 

[NJDevs26]

What’s hilarious about the Penix thing is not only is it a questionable use of a draft pick for a win now team but it’s also the worst situation for an ‘older’ QB to go to a place where he has to wait. If you’re gonna pick a guy who’s going to be developmental you’d rather have that guy…be younger? Penix might be 27-28 before he plays.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I love that the Jets took OL. As an OL coach myself, I'm a big proponent of building from the OL out. Doesn't matter if you have Rodgers or me playing QB, if you can't block you won't do shit.

I admittedly haven't seen his film so I'll have to try and find some Penn St All-22 of him

His comp is basically DBrickshaw Ferguson which is ironic considering who drafted him, would be a godsend for the Jets if he turns into Brick.

Not a mauler, more finesse type tackle
Raw as a run blocker and plays high at time. He likely needs some time to develop but will start year one

Basically on point, I would be surprised if he plays year 1 unless Smith/Moses get hurt or just look horrid. I still wouldn't throw Fashnu out there until year 2

 

[Rhodes 81]

What’s hilarious about the Penix thing is not only is it a questionable use of a draft pick for a win now team but it’s also the worst situation for an ‘older’ QB to go to a place where he has to wait. If you’re gonna pick a guy who’s going to be developmental you’d rather have that guy…be younger? Penix might be 27-28 before he plays.

Apparently they didn't tell Cousins they were taking a QB until they were on the clock. Now they've already pissed off their new QB, wasted a top 10 pick on someone that won't help the team for at least 2 years, and likely committed themselves to playing a mediocre QB in the future.

This GM is horseshit

 

[Davegarri]

Not a mauler, more finesse type tackle
Raw as a run blocker and plays high at time. He likely needs some time to develop but will start year one

You don't really need a mauler at the tackle position in the NFL anyways, need more of a true pass pro tackle. I don't have any PSU film from last year in my football gold mine at this point unfortunately, but watched the PSU O vs Michigan last season and it wasn't the best showing. Sloppy feet in pass pro. His angle pass sets looked cumbersome and he really struggled with power moves from the DL in that game. Seemed to struggle post contact in his pass pro, took a long time to anchor on bull rushes, causing the pocket to narrow.

However, without the rear and front views of the OL it can be hard to tell some of the basic fundamentals of pass pro. Also important to note every OL coach is different in what they like to do. I just met with Pat Flaherty and he and I are very different in our philosophies and coaching points for pass pro.

I actually like how he looks in his run blocking tbh. Great foot fire, good form, good finish, and always moving the pile. Could use work on his pad level though.

His comp is basically DBrickshaw Ferguson which is ironic considering who drafted him, would be a godsend for the Jets if he turns into Brick.



Basically on point, I would be surprised if he plays year 1 unless Smith/Moses get hurt or just look horrid. I still wouldn't throw Fashnu out there until year 2

I loved D'Brickashaw. Dude was a beast

 

[Bcap88]

You don't really need a mauler at the tackle position in the NFL anyways, need more of a true pass pro tackle. I don't have any PSU film from last year in my football gold mine at this point unfortunately, but watched the PSU O vs Michigan last season and it wasn't the best showing. Sloppy feet in pass pro. His angle pass sets looked cumbersome and he really struggled with power moves from the DL in that game. Seemed to struggle post contact in his pass pro, took a long time to anchor on bull rushes, causing the pocket to narrow.

However, without the rear and front views of the OL it can be hard to tell some of the basic fundamentals of pass pro. Also important to note every OL coach is different in what they like to do. I just met with Pat Flaherty and he and I are very different in our philosophies and coaching points for pass pro.

I actually like how he looks in his run blocking tbh. Great foot fire, good form, good finish, and always moving the pile. Could use work on his pad level though.


I loved D'Brickashaw. Dude was a beast

Absolutely but Keith Carter doesn’t have the best track record as a o line coach

Ola is very good, just has some flaws mainly he plays to high and for his size has issues at times with anchor.

He got absolutely worked on the Ohio state film and most of it was due to foot work issuss. He definitely plays lighter than his size

 

[Davegarri]

Absolutely but Keith Carter doesn’t have the best track record as a o line coach

Ola is very good, just has some flaws mainly he plays to high and for his size has issues at times with anchor.

He got absolutely worked on the Ohio state film and most of it was due to foot work issuss. He definitely plays lighter than his size

Yeah idk how Carter survived this offseason, I thought he was gone for sure. Dude hasn't done anything good in his time here.

I like Fashanu, but like you said, needs some work. I'll have to watch OSU next lol His feet and timing are definitely issues, but when he snaps defenders and finishes them he's a beast. It's just a little later than I'd like.

 

[My3Sons]

Apparently they didn't tell Cousins they were taking a QB until they were on the clock. Now they've already pissed off their new QB, wasted a top 10 pick on someone that won't help the team for at least 2 years, and likely committed themselves to playing a mediocre QB in the future.

This GM is horseshit

The Falcons probably win the division anyway this season. I think I could win 4 of 6 against those teams. Hard to see any of the other divisional teams taking a big step forward.

 

[Saugus]

Apparently they didn't tell Cousins they were taking a QB until they were on the clock. Now they've already pissed off their new QB, wasted a top 10 pick on someone that won't help the team for at least 2 years, and likely committed themselves to playing a mediocre QB in the future.

This GM is horseshit

This could be an instance of ownership meddling. Maybe they just really, really liked Penix and told their GM he had to select him if available?