He turns 28 in may. If verbeek gets the sense that he’s more than just your plays amazing during a contract season player. Who will be a core piece going forward max effort etc. I go 5x5 he will probably want 6 years we throw more aav for 1 less year.
Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II
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Prob 3 year deal, somewhere around 3 give or take
I've been saying Dakota would be an ideal complementary player this year that we hoped Max would become, but I think his stock is too high now. He is also not a right shooter that Verbeek wants to add this offseason. We would obviously have to overpay to sign him, like a 4x4 contract based on what we have been recently dishing out. We need to do a better job drafting or UFA signing these types of profiles where it would be alot cheaper to grow in-house.
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19M/5 years (3.8M AAV), 17M/4 years (4.25M AAV), 21M/6 years (3.5M AAV)...something along those lines is what I expected for Joshua, maybe a slightly higher AAV. Good third liner money
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duxfan1101
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I agree with both targets, but there will be a couple of trickle down effects. First, another RW means Colangelo is either in SD or on the 4th line. I am totally cool with him starting in the AHL next season, but he could be blocked for a number of seasons depending on who we add. The new defenseman may have more immediate effects. Verbeek has said Luneau will be in the NHL next season. He could obviously go back on this, but if he doesn’t, that would mean we have a right side of Gudas-UFA/Trade-Luneau and a left side of 3 of Fowler-Mintyukov-Zellweger-LaCombe. LaCombe seems like the odd guy out in this scenario. We weren’t afraid of healthy scratching him at times this year, but if he is the odd man out, it might just make sense to trade him while he has value.
A Top 6 Winger, and a Top 4 RHD could certainly make them competitive, especially if the kids take some nice strides forward. Good to hear.
It was always inevitable that we were adding a top 4 rhd. “ that would block the kids “ news flash, Jaxon LaCombe and vaaks aren’t long term fits for us. Just to name a couple. Maybe one of them is signed by us though. And traded a little further down the line in a package type of trade
Let’s be honest, we are bound to have a few injuries. Can’t we let Luneau cook a little in the ahl and bring him up when we have some injuries? The following year we can buy out Fowler. Moving Lacombe feels foolish long term when we have Fowler and Gudas which are clear stop gap solutions. I also feel like Lacombe has solid upside.
Top RH RW UFA:
Reinhart
Marchessault
Stamkos
Toffoli
Teravainen
Arvidsson
Lindholm
Top RH D UFA:
Tanev
Pesce
Montour
Roy
DeMelo
Walker
Top bottom six UFA (opinion)
Joshua
Foegele
Noesen
Martinook
Barabanov (hot take)
Carrier
Amadio
Big fan of scouring elite teams for their expiring bottom six guys.
Reinhart
Marchessault
Stamkos
Toffoli
Teravainen
Arvidsson
Lindholm
Top RH D UFA:
Tanev
Pesce
Montour
Roy
DeMelo
Walker
Top bottom six UFA (opinion)
Joshua
Foegele
Noesen
Martinook
Barabanov (hot take)
Carrier
Amadio
Big fan of scouring elite teams for their expiring bottom six guys.
duxfan1101
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I would like to know what he meant by bottom 6. Because if we sign a top 6 RW, that would complete our top 9. So from my POV, we really only need 4th line players.
Depends on how you'd like to interpret Verbeek's words. He wants more production from his bottom six; some of that can conceivably come from in-house, but that didn't seem to be the tenor of his interview.
More light will be shed on that if we start renouncing some of our bottom six RFAs.
DavidBL
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Here are guys I'd like us to consider:
RS Forward
Stamkos - short term leadership and ability to teach the the kids how to be stars
Reinhart - all around player but long term commitment. Fits the Power killer mold
Boeser - younger potential cap casualty that we could trade for and utilize some of our abundance of assets.
RSD
Peace - top RD PKer that complaints puck movers on plays on the beat PK in the league. UFA commitment.
Roy - Similar to Pesce with a bit lesser of a reputation.
Ekblad - expensive but great results on the pk. Youngest of the 3 and costs assets but we have an abundance.
4th liners
Eller - Trade
Accari - Trade
Blugar - UFA
Stenlund - Trade
All of these guys have pretty decent usage on PK with some success. Interestingly in his limited minutes McGinn actually had a decent amount of success.
I'd be happy with any combination of 2 players from the top 6 I mentioned.
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Eller has one year left (2.45 million cap hit), and Accari is signed for two more year (two million cap hit). This past season Eller played on the 3rd line plus on the power play and on the PK. He is a great two-way centerman and won a cup with the Caps.
Accari played on the 4th line centering Nieto/ Harkins and Carter this past season. He got hurt late in the season, and played on the 1st unit PK. Sullivan loves the guy, but this past season he was a disappointment for pens fans.
If they both start the season for the penguins, fans hope that Eller is the 4th line centerman with Accari is moved to Right wing. (Let him loose on the forecheck.) The penguins will give Ponomarev who came over from the Guentzel trade the first shot as their third line centerman.
Is their one young Ducks player who fans can think of who could help the penguins bottom six? That's what the penguins would look for especially in a trade for either player. (Mostly Eller).
DavidBL
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Got the idea from the main Trade board. I was thinking Lundestrom could be a fit there. They get younger and we get someone more proven in the bottom 6 to compliment the young top 9.
With PV saying he's adding a top 4 RD, it seems clear that Luneau will not be starting in the NHL next season as there's no space. Fowler, Gudas, Mintyukov, Zellweger, and the new RD will all play. Only one spot left with another as the 7th.
At least one of Lindstrom, LaCombe, and Vaakanainen will have to go as there's no room. IMO, all of them have some trade value with LaCombe obviously the most. It seems reasonable one of those three will be used in a trade this summer.
At least one of Lindstrom, LaCombe, and Vaakanainen will have to go as there's no room. IMO, all of them have some trade value with LaCombe obviously the most. It seems reasonable one of those three will be used in a trade this summer.
DavidBL
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My guess would be Vaaks. Lacomb is younger, and they started playing him the PK and less injury history. Take Vaaks and try and find a bottom 6 upgrade that can PK or maybe part of a bigger deal for one of the RS players we want. Though honestly I think UFA is the obvious choice for both of those holes.
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Based on Verbeeks comments who fits the criteria of a right shot top 6 forward and top 4 d that we can sign or might be for trade.
I'm going presume we will target a wing and not a center
I'm going presume we will target a wing and not a center
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You add Stamkos and Pesche and the young kids continue to improve and this is a top 3 team in the Pacific.
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