2023-2024 Final Season Grades

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Kaprizov - A+. Debated giving him an A, due to his less than stellar early season play, but he more than made up for it with his dominant play down the stretch. What a delight it is to have a true superstar on the team.

Faber - A+ Superb

JEE - A His game tailed off in the las 15 games or so. I am guessing he was playing injured. He carried the team for parts of the year.

Brodin- A- The best I've seen him play this year, but have to downgrade him a bit due to his missing 21 games due to injury.

Boldy - A - Downgraded him because of his unproductive play earlier in the year, but I am excited at his development. He is a no doubt, #1 Winger, and I think he is still improving. I think he will be P/pg next year.

Middleton - B+ I thought had a really good year, and showed improvement. Provides much needed physicality and toughness to the team, and added some nice defense. Dependable. Great bang for the buck.

Rossi - B+. vg+/EXC- rookie season. Hard to complain about a 20g, 20A season. His physical limitations are still there, but he did very well considering who his wingers were for most of the season.

Zucc- B+ Has his flaws, but I'm on board with carrying a PP specialist on the team. His skill and smarts are undeniable.

Hartman - B I like having a nasty guy on the team.

MoJo - C. Disappointing season, but that's what you get for 2m/season. Not sure what people were expecting.

Freddy G - F. Oof. Was flat out bad for most of the season. His skating, which used to be a strength, wasn't there, he looked weak and non competitive in puck battles. Was a fringe NHL'er this year, as opposed to previous years where he looked like a decent 3rd liner.

Chisholm - C+. Don't know what to make of him. Seems ok, thought he'd have more points. Great add for a waiver guy, just hope he doesn't turn out to be the Sam Steel of Dmen. Nice skating, good puck skills, not too bad defensively. Limited physicality and size.

Merrill - D- Can't stand to watch this guy. Nate Prosser without the physicality and toughness.

Goligoski - D- Great career that lasted one year too long. See ya.

Letierri, Luchinni - Thanks for trying, guys. Now go away to the AHL where you belong.

Dewar - C. Sad that he was traded. Better than what is currently on our 4th line.

Duhaime - C. see Dewar comment. We are slower, less physical, and less tough with him not on the 4th line.

Bogo - B- Did well. Seems to keep it simple. We can use his handedness, size, and toughness on the team. Clumsy at times, but you can see he still has some of the tools that made him a 4oa pick.

Mermis - D. Cemented his status as a fringe NHL'er. I like him better than Merrill and Goli, but it's probably not a difference big enough to get excited about. Hunt should supplant him next year... he might go someplace where he has a shot at more NHL games, though they'd love to have him back in Iowa.

Shaw - D Nothing there. What little speed and quickness he had looks gone.

Foligno - C- I'm sad that i have to watch years more of this. Two years in a row of groin surgery is not a good sign.

Marat - C Looks like a Dewar replacement at least. Hopefully he can be more. Nice speed. Not as small/weak as I feared. Hopefully he blossoms a bit offensively.

Ohgren - C I'm optimistic, but nothing jumps out at me except his shot... he's got find ways to do it more. Part of that is on Hynes, part on him.

Wallstedt - C+

Gus - D+. Not a good year.

Fleury - C- Marginally better, I think?

Spurgeon - INC

Hynes - C+. Seems ok, and not sure what he could've done better given what he had at hand. Special teams continue to be a problem. Whose fault is the poor goaltending? The goalie coach, the HC, or are they just flawed, and Guerin is at fault for bringing them in? I'm not passionate one way or another about bringing in a new coach next year in what is likely to be another lame duck season.
 

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Kaprizov - A+. Debated giving him an A, due to his less than stellar early season play, but he more than made up for it with his dominant play down the stretch. What a delight it is to have a true superstar on the team.

Faber - A+ Superb

JEE - A His game tailed off in the las 15 games or so. I am guessing he was playing injured. He carried the team for parts of the year.

Brodin- A- The best I've seen him play this year, but have to downgrade him a bit due to his missing 21 games due to injury.

Boldy - A - Downgraded him because of his unproductive play earlier in the year, but I am excited at his development. He is a no doubt, #1 Winger, and I think he is still improving. I think he will be P/pg next year.

Middleton - B+ I thought had a really good year, and showed improvement. Provides much needed physicality and toughness to the team, and added some nice defense. Dependable. Great bang for the buck.

Rossi - B+. vg+/EXC- rookie season. Hard to complain about a 20g, 20A season. His physical limitations are still there, but he did very well considering who his wingers were for most of the season.

Zucc- B+ Has his flaws, but I'm on board with carrying a PP specialist on the team. His skill and smarts are undeniable.

Hartman - B I like having a nasty guy on the team.

MoJo - C. Disappointing season, but that's what you get for 2m/season. Not sure what people were expecting.

Freddy G - F. Oof. Was flat out bad for most of the season. His skating, which used to be a strength, wasn't there, he looked weak and non competitive in puck battles. Was a fringe NHL'er this year, as opposed to previous years where he looked like a decent 3rd liner.

Chisholm - C+. Don't know what to make of him. Seems ok, thought he'd have more points. Great add for a waiver guy, just hope he doesn't turn out to be the Sam Steel of Dmen. Nice skating, good puck skills, not too bad defensively. Limited physicality and size.

Merrill - D- Can't stand to watch this guy. Nate Prosser without the physicality and toughness.

Goligoski - D- Great career that lasted one year too long. See ya.

Letierri, Luchinni - Thanks for trying, guys. Now go away to the AHL where you belong.

Dewar - C. Sad that he was traded. Better than what is currently on our 4th line.

Duhaime - C. see Dewar comment. We are slower, less physical, and less tough with him not on the 4th line.

Bogo - B- Did well. Seems to keep it simple. We can use his handedness, size, and toughness on the team. Clumsy at times, but you can see he still has some of the tools that made him a 4oa pick.

Mermis - D. Cemented his status as a fringe NHL'er. I like him better than Merrill and Goli, but it's probably not a difference big enough to get excited about. Hunt should supplant him next year... he might go someplace where he has a shot at more NHL games, though they'd love to have him back in Iowa.

Shaw - D Nothing there. What little speed and quickness he had looks gone.

Foligno - C- I'm sad that i have to watch years more of this. Two years in a row of groin surgery is not a good sign.

Marat - C Looks like a Dewar replacement at least. Hopefully he can be more. Nice speed. Not as small/weak as I feared. Hopefully he blossoms a bit offensively.

Ohgren - C I'm optimistic, but nothing jumps out at me except his shot... he's got find ways to do it more. Part of that is on Hynes, part on him.

Wallstedt - C+

Gus - D+. Not a good year.

Fleury - C- Marginally better, I think?

Spurgeon - INC

Hynes - C+. Seems ok, and not sure what he could've done better given what he had at hand. Special teams continue to be a problem. Whose fault is the poor goaltending? The goalie coach, the HC, or are they just flawed, and Guerin is at fault for bringing them in? I'm not passionate one way or another about bringing in a new coach next year in what is likely to be another lame duck season.
Freddy really killed me this year. I had been one of the people who felt he was underrated around here, and was giving us pretty good hockey for his contract. Then, bang!, a new contract gets signed and he turns into an AHLer again. That's the problem with signing career role-players around 30 years old, they fall off fast.
 

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Freddy really killed me this year. I had been one of the people who felt he was underrated around here, and was giving us pretty good hockey for his contract. Then, bang!, a new contract gets signed and he turns into an AHLer again. That's the problem with signing career role-players around 30 years old, they fall off fast.
I really think he got injured by Reeves and never really got back on track
 

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Curious where others would have Guerin. We've hashed the buyouts to death, I suppose, but those were still decisions he made that put the team in a less competitive position. Given that constraint, not much he could have done in terms of deadline help, or off-season big-ticket acquisitions.

But...he wasted another outstanding year of Kaprizov and created a non-playoff team that wasn't particularly close to making the playoffs or, by extension, contending for a Cup.

C+ in that he didn't make any terrible mistakes, but the fat contracts for average players are adding up. Big summer.
 

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Curious where others would have Guerin. We've hashed the buyouts to death, I suppose, but those were still decisions he made that put the team in a less competitive position. Given that constraint, not much he could have done in terms of deadline help, or off-season big-ticket acquisitions.

But...he wasted another outstanding year of Kaprizov and created a non-playoff team that wasn't particularly close to making the playoffs or, by extension, contending for a Cup.

C+ in that he didn't make any terrible mistakes, but the fat contracts for average players are adding up. Big summer.
Solidly in C territory for me. He's done some good things, but he's done some other things that have really undermined a lot of the good things.
He set the team up with a great amount of depth in the prospect pool, but then made the team too competitive to ever put the very top-end prospects into it.
He traded Fiala for a couple of future players that fit our timeline better, but then re-signed a bunch of 30 somethings to term.

I'm sure there are plenty more, but I just don't want to think all that through right now.
 

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Curious where others would have Guerin. We've hashed the buyouts to death, I suppose, but those were still decisions he made that put the team in a less competitive position. Given that constraint, not much he could have done in terms of deadline help, or off-season big-ticket acquisitions.

But...he wasted another outstanding year of Kaprizov and created a non-playoff team that wasn't particularly close to making the playoffs or, by extension, contending for a Cup.

C+ in that he didn't make any terrible mistakes, but the fat contracts for average players are adding up. Big summer.
I'm not sure there was a move to be made that didn't waste this season from Kaprizov. The big criticism at the moment is the Zucc/Foligno extensions, and that's because people wanted those guys traded for picks at the deadline, which means we would be out of the playoffs anyway.

That is if we're just looking at this season. Obviously there is stuff from the past that we are still feeling the effects of.
 

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Lost our captain and 1D for the vast majority of season. 1G saw his save % drop from .930 to .899. Our 3C fell off a freaking cliff. Best defensive winger missed considerable time as well. Most our best prospects are still a year or two out.

This was a lost season but all the important guys performed well. And we have a lot coming in the way of prospects. I’m giving Guerin a C +.

The extensions were bad but he still has gotten useful pieces for nothing in Middleton, Chisholm, Gus and has managed to fetch Brackett quite a few extra 1st and 2nd round picks. Still a believer in the big picture.
 

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Lost our captain and 1D for the vast majority of season. 1G saw his save % drop from .930 to .899. Our 3C fell off a freaking cliff. Best defensive winger missed considerable time as well. Most our best prospects are still a year or two out.

This was a lost season but all the important guys performed well. And we have a lot coming in the way of prospects. I’m giving Guerin a C +.

The extensions were bad but he still has gotten useful pieces for nothing in Middleton, Chisholm, Gus and has managed to fetch Brackett quite a few extra 1st and 2nd round picks. Still a believer in the big picture.
We had our Captain (Ek) most of the season.
We had our 1D (Brodin) most of the season.
We lost our 3D (Spurgeon) most of the season.
 
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We had our Captain (Ek) most of the season.
We had our 1D (Brodin) most of the season.
We lost our 3D (Spurgeon) most of the season.
he was arguably our 1D at the time, anyway. Next year, he won’t be.
 

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he was arguably our 1D at the time, anyway. Next year, he won’t be.
He hasn't played top minutes here in YEARS already.
Dumba played more 5v5 against tougher competition. Brodin-Dumba was the top pair prior to this year.
Now it's Brodin-Faber
 

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He hasn't played top minutes here in YEARS already.
Dumba played more 5v5 against tougher competition. Brodin-Dumba was the top pair prior to this year.
Now it's Brodin-Faber
That’s true but he was still our top scoring and most well-rounded D before his injury. His struggles in the postseason and recent injury problems are obscuring the fact that he was a cornerstone player for the better part of a decade and a better two-way threat than Brodin. Nobody knows what he is now and moving forward.

A return to form would have a massive affect on the team’s overall ability to contend. And it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that he comes back and outperforms both 25 & 7 next year

Next year we will have Faber as the 1D, Brodin as the 2D and Spurgeon as the wildcard. If he plays at a top-pair level we will make the playoffs as long as the goalies are > 0.900 SV %
 
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That’s true but he was still our top scoring and most well-rounded D before his injury. His struggles in the postseason and recent injury problems are obscuring the fact that he was a cornerstone player for the better part of a decade and a better two-way threat than Brodin. Nobody knows what he is now and moving forward.

A return to form would have a massive affect on the team’s overall ability to contend. And it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that he comes back and outperforms both 25 & 7 next year

Next year we will have Faber as the 1D, Brodin as the 2D and Spurgeon as the wildcard. If he plays at a top-pair level we will make the playoffs as long as the goalies are > 0.900 SV %
Having Spurgeon back healthy would be huge. Middleton and Spurge would make a vg second pairing, and help a lot on the PK and breakouts.

Where we really need improvement is up front, though. Right now we aren't big and tough, nor skilled and fast, once you get past the top 3-4 players. Our depth players are smallish, weak, not fast, soft, and not skilled.
 

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I believe Guerin will hit the market to find a decent top 6 player on the 2nd line with Zucc. Rossi is okay, but Johansson is not the answer. Can't expect Ohgren to fill that role yet either.
 

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my honest opinion, i think we would have made the playoffs IF reeves was on our team. nobody would have taken cheap shots at kaprizov & others.
 

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my honest opinion, i think we would have made the playoffs IF reeves was on our team. nobody would have taken cheap shots at kaprizov & others.
Well, Suter and Stanley took cheap shots when he was on the team, so...
 

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I believe Guerin will hit the market to find a decent top 6 player on the 2nd line with Zucc. Rossi is okay, but Johansson is not the answer. Can't expect Ohgren to fill that role yet either.
ES scoring this year

Rossi - 19, 15 (34)
Zucc - 7, 23 (30)

One is a kid who defends and the other is ancient and does not defend at all. I think I know which one I’m building the 2nd line around.
 
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Assuming Rossi takes another step, Zucc at $4M as the 3rd best player on the line is probably ok. Just need to find that 3rd guy. Probably a tough find with only ~$4M to spend though.
 

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my honest opinion, i think we would have made the playoffs IF reeves was on our team. nobody would have taken cheap shots at kaprizov & others.

MN would have made the Playoffs if they had a decent 3rd line instead of an AHL line in the bottom-6, or a top-15 goalie.
 

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Kaprizov - A+. Debated giving him an A, due to his less than stellar early season play, but he more than made up for it with his dominant play down the stretch. What a delight it is to have a true superstar on the team.

Faber - A+ Superb

JEE - A His game tailed off in the las 15 games or so. I am guessing he was playing injured. He carried the team for parts of the year.

Brodin- A- The best I've seen him play this year, but have to downgrade him a bit due to his missing 21 games due to injury.

Boldy - A - Downgraded him because of his unproductive play earlier in the year, but I am excited at his development. He is a no doubt, #1 Winger, and I think he is still improving. I think he will be P/pg next year.

Middleton - B+ I thought had a really good year, and showed improvement. Provides much needed physicality and toughness to the team, and added some nice defense. Dependable. Great bang for the buck.

Rossi - B+. vg+/EXC- rookie season. Hard to complain about a 20g, 20A season. His physical limitations are still there, but he did very well considering who his wingers were for most of the season.

Zucc- B+ Has his flaws, but I'm on board with carrying a PP specialist on the team. His skill and smarts are undeniable.

Hartman - B I like having a nasty guy on the team.

MoJo - C. Disappointing season, but that's what you get for 2m/season. Not sure what people were expecting.

Freddy G - F. Oof. Was flat out bad for most of the season. His skating, which used to be a strength, wasn't there, he looked weak and non competitive in puck battles. Was a fringe NHL'er this year, as opposed to previous years where he looked like a decent 3rd liner.

Chisholm - C+. Don't know what to make of him. Seems ok, thought he'd have more points. Great add for a waiver guy, just hope he doesn't turn out to be the Sam Steel of Dmen. Nice skating, good puck skills, not too bad defensively. Limited physicality and size.

Merrill - D- Can't stand to watch this guy. Nate Prosser without the physicality and toughness.

Goligoski - D- Great career that lasted one year too long. See ya.

Letierri, Luchinni - Thanks for trying, guys. Now go away to the AHL where you belong.

Dewar - C. Sad that he was traded. Better than what is currently on our 4th line.

Duhaime - C. see Dewar comment. We are slower, less physical, and less tough with him not on the 4th line.

Bogo - B- Did well. Seems to keep it simple. We can use his handedness, size, and toughness on the team. Clumsy at times, but you can see he still has some of the tools that made him a 4oa pick.

Mermis - D. Cemented his status as a fringe NHL'er. I like him better than Merrill and Goli, but it's probably not a difference big enough to get excited about. Hunt should supplant him next year... he might go someplace where he has a shot at more NHL games, though they'd love to have him back in Iowa.

Shaw - D Nothing there. What little speed and quickness he had looks gone.

Foligno - C- I'm sad that i have to watch years more of this. Two years in a row of groin surgery is not a good sign.

Marat - C Looks like a Dewar replacement at least. Hopefully he can be more. Nice speed. Not as small/weak as I feared. Hopefully he blossoms a bit offensively.

Ohgren - C I'm optimistic, but nothing jumps out at me except his shot... he's got find ways to do it more. Part of that is on Hynes, part on him.

Wallstedt - C+

Gus - D+. Not a good year.

Fleury - C- Marginally better, I think?

Spurgeon - INC

Hynes - C+. Seems ok, and not sure what he could've done better given what he had at hand. Special teams continue to be a problem. Whose fault is the poor goaltending? The goalie coach, the HC, or are they just flawed, and Guerin is at fault for bringing them in? I'm not passionate one way or another about bringing in a new coach next year in what is likely to be another lame duck season.
Kind of small sample size to judge rookies brought up at very end.
otherwise pretty fair assessment.. except Zucc always does a cross ice look off pass when he has a point blank look. Frustrating when he has a accurate shot.
 

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