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No. I would not view CP as a #1.
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no. to me, a true #! you want out there in all situations. can quarterback pp, spearhead transition, everything. that isn't cp55. he is great defender man-on-man, very good defender in zone, excellent puck handler, cannon of a shot. but he doesn't have offensive vision, he doesn't consistently spring teammates in transition, he isn't guy to qb pp. he plays a lot of tough minutes and does it well, but he's a very good #2.
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Love Parayko. I really think he'd be an amazing complement to a guy like Dahlin/Hughes/Sergachev/Josi etc. The problem is that we don't have that guy.
PocketNines
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We know what Parayko's highest possible usage is - the 2019 run. That is the best he can play and it is really great. The people who think he was the real #1 that year, I don't know what else to say at this point but they don't have a real good line on hockey yet. Parayko is simply too unskilled in key areas that a real #1 defenseman must have. But his upside is one that contributes a ton of heavy lifting and it's real. Love Parayko. Perfect #2 on a contender. Can handle all minutes and most situations besides PP.
He can be deployed as a #1, which we are seeing. As a #1 he is insufficient.
He can be deployed as a #1, which we are seeing. As a #1 he is insufficient.
Too me he has been really solid this year. He handles the heavy lifting and following that reasoning, I think he is a #1. Now he wasn’t even close last seasons, but he is this season.
I understand the PP QB thing, but was Pie on our top unit? When Shatty was here he wasn’t. And I do t remember during the cup run. Was it more Dunn? I think there will always be specialist. But if you were a coach and you had Pie and CP on the same team, who play against the top line.
I understand the PP QB thing, but was Pie on our top unit? When Shatty was here he wasn’t. And I do t remember during the cup run. Was it more Dunn? I think there will always be specialist. But if you were a coach and you had Pie and CP on the same team, who play against the top line.
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Pretty sure Petro was the pp1 guy after Shatty left, but a lot of that was out of necessity. Plus, you had Parayko/Bouwmeester doing a lot of the heavy lifting on defense. It's tough to ask a guy to be the #1 guy both offensively and defensively. Guys like Josi and Hedman can handle it, but I'm guessing they don't use Parayko much on the PP because we've got other guys who can do it and they wanna keep Parayko focused on playing defense instead of offense.
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Out of curiosity, how many true #1s that fit that definition do you think are in the league?
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AP lead our team in both PP and PK ice time after Shatty left. He was 2nd in 5v5 ice time to Parayko by about 11 seconds per game. He was every bit the "True #1" people talk about.
You forgot the important part, being good to great at both categories. Was his defense there? absolutely. Was his PP QBing there? ehhhhh, not really. Could you make due with him? ya but it would have been preferable to use someone better. We used Steen a lot for the PP QB as well.
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Absolutely not. He has never been able to move the needle offensively and that's vital to a 1D's skill set. He doesn't really have the vision as a puck mover that's necessary to really tilt the ice, which is why his most effective way of moving the puck out is to carry it himself. It's a good option, but once he gets up ice he can't consistently convert that to dangerous chances.
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During the stretch that AP ran the first PP he had the 18th most PP points of any Dman and we were in the top half of the NHL in PP %. I think he did his job in that regard.
On a happier note, nice story on CP55 and Laila: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/st-lo...hare-their-bond-since-stanley-cup-run-in-2019
3g/10a and 30th ranked PP in 17/18 15.4%
3g/12 and 10th ranked PP in 18/19 21.1%
6g/16a and 3rd ranked PP in 19/20 24.3%
I really don't think what you think is the job of a #1 Dman is really being shown by these numbers. Remember I'm not the one that said a #1 Dman needs to run the PP, I think a #1 Dman should be even strength and PK performance.
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Saad has 18 points and 12 goals in his last 23 games. That's why he's such a frustrating player. He has the ability to be pretty productive, but also has crazy cold streaks in him.
PocketNines
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The kids coming in for forward spots hopefully supplant some of the frustratingly unreliable forwards. The team identity is boom bust because as Armstrong has devolved his roster he has had to patch with those kind of guys. Guys who give you 100% but only 60% of the time.
And there's only a 10% chance of that happening.
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Jordan Kyrou is made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good
A long seven game losing streak to end the season wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. If we could somehow fall behind Pittsburgh, the Islanders, Washington, Minnesota and Detroit the Blues may be able to salvage a decent pic from a lost season.
Binnington would have to be put in ice, and swap in someone incompetent. But our rookie backup may spoil it even then.
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