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I found myself having some spare time the last few days so I started my sheet for the 2022 draft. Seems like it's pretty obvious who's going 1st OA, and the draft is just way more stacked from first glance than last year. Should be lots of good players available to us assuming we keep the pick.
 
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Based on the admitted, very very little I have so far here is my current top-5 with their NHLe for the 2020-21 season

1. C Shane Wright - N/A
2. C Brad Lambert - 9.68
3. RHD Simon Nemec - 8.76
4. C Conor Geekie - 12.73
5. C Matthew Savoie - 10.81

Some other guys I found interesting:

RHD Elias Salomonsson - 18.1 on draft day (and 6'1" all day lmao). In Sweden's #3 league (J20 Nationell) he managed to go PPG as a defenseman. He was 16 for most of the season. Crazy production for a guy. Had to find me a Swede to be my favourite prosect this draft.

W Kirill Dolzhenkov - He's 6'7", 18.4 at draft day. In the russian U18 league he managed to put up 2.6PPG and captained the team. I'd love to see if it can transfer to the MHL because production like that isn't a joke.

Here are the guys that had above a 10 NHLe in their D-1:

Player D-AgeHeightWeightPositionF/DLeague 2020-21TeamGPGPPPGNHLe 20-21
Yurov, Danila18.76'1"172WFMHLMagnitogorsk2313251.08715.15
Gaucher, Nathan18.96'3"198C/WFQMJHLQuebec3014311.033313.47
Geekie, Conor18.46'4"205CFWHLWinnipeg249230.958312.73
Verreault, Antonin18.15'8"163WFQMJHLGatineau316290.935512.20
Minten, Fraser18.26'0"161WFWHLKamloops204180.911.96
Howard, Isaac18.55'10"174WFUSHLUSDP2816331.178611.40
Nazar, Frank18.75'9"163WFUSHLUSDP3120361.161311.24
Savoie, Matthew18.75'10"181C/WFUSHLDubuque3421381.117610.81
Ostlund, Noah18.55'10"163C/WFJ20 NationellDjurgardens107151.510.58
Miroshnichenko, Ivan18.66'1"185WFMHLOmskie205150.7510.46
Vidicek, Markus18.55'10"161C/WFQMJHLHalifax4010310.77510.10
Cooley, Logan18.45'10"179C/WFUSHLUSDP2715281.03710.03
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Top-10 Defenseman by NHLe:

Player D-AgeHeightWeightPositionF/DLeague 2020-21TeamGPGPPPGNHLe 20-21
Nemec, Simon18.66'1"192RHDDSlovakiaHK Nitra372190.51358.76
Jiricek, David18.86'3"176RHDDCzechHC Plzen34390.26478.62
Safin-Tregubov, Sergei18.95'9"187LHDDMHLTolpar Ufa357210.68.36
Luneau, Tristan18.76'2"174RHDDQMJHLGatineau314180.58067.57
Mateychuk, Denton18.25'11"192LHDDWHLMoose Jaw16290.56257.47
Salomonsson, Elias18.16'1"161RHDDJ20 NationellSkelleftea1541517.05
Casey, Seamus18.75'10"161RHDDUSHLUSDP302200.66676.45
McCutcheon, Logan18.75'10"154RHDDWHLLethbridge231110.47836.35
Chesley, Ryan18.66'0"187RHDDUSHLUSDP276140.51855.02
Hutson, Lane18.65'6"165LHDDUSHLUSDP273140.51855.02
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So it doesn't have to do with this draft, but I was looking at Morgan geekie, Connors brother, and was just curious how someone who puts up 90pts in the whl in there 2nd season doesn't get drafted until the 3rd round?
 

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Anyone know anything about Kirill DOLZHENKOV?
6'7 rw projected in 1st round on a couple sites. Hasn't played above Russia u18 division.
 

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So it doesn't have to do with this draft, but I was looking at Morgan geekie, Connors brother, and was just curious how someone who puts up 90pts in the whl in there 2nd season doesn't get drafted until the 3rd round?

That's insane. Especially being a late birthday.

Anyone know anything about Kirill DOLZHENKOV?
6'7 rw projected in 1st round on a couple sites. Hasn't played above Russia u18 division.

I mentioned him a bit in my post, but its almost all just EP Scouting. I have him on my watch list to see how he plays in the MHL.
 

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That's insane. Especially being a late birthday.



I mentioned him a bit in my post, but its almost all just EP Scouting. I have him on my watch list to see how he plays in the MHL.
Opps I missed that. Too much text for me was just skimming and passed right over that section.
 
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Might be a big faller in this draft.



Seems Finland is again looking at a players lack of production instead of what they can do for a team in a short tournament. Both times they could have looked at the players SH% and oiSH% and seen that the lack of production is probably due to bad luck. Easy way to shoot your team in the foot is by leaving one of your best players at home.

It might be a great thing for us though. His talent is undeniable, but the question is can he develop a 2-way game to go along with it. Likely he ends up being a similar player to Laine or Kyle Connor (but maybe not that good). Clearly Winnipeg is gonna draft him though, they love their one-dimensional scorers.
 

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Seems Finland is again looking at a players lack of production instead of what they can do for a team in a short tournament. Both times they could have looked at the players SH% and oiSH% and seen that the lack of production is probably due to bad luck. Easy way to shoot your team in the foot is by leaving one of your best players at home.

It might be a great thing for us though. His talent is undeniable, but the question is can he develop a 2-way game to go along with it. Likely he ends up being a similar player to Laine or Kyle Connor (but maybe not that good). Clearly Winnipeg is gonna draft him though, they love their one-dimensional scorers.
Absolutely dumb of them not to include him in a junior roster because he is struggling at the men's senior level. Whatever. I pray to God he drops to us.
 
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Based on the admitted, very very little I have so far here is my current top-5 with their NHLe for the 2020-21 season

1. C Shane Wright - N/A
2. C Brad Lambert - 9.68
3. RHD Simon Nemec - 8.76
4. C Conor Geekie - 12.73
5. C Matthew Savoie - 10.81

Some other guys I found interesting:

RHD Elias Salomonsson - 18.1 on draft day (and 6'1" all day lmao). In Sweden's #3 league (J20 Nationell) he managed to go PPG as a defenseman. He was 16 for most of the season. Crazy production for a guy. Had to find me a Swede to be my favourite prosect this draft.

W Kirill Dolzhenkov - He's 6'7", 18.4 at draft day. In the russian U18 league he managed to put up 2.6PPG and captained the team. I'd love to see if it can transfer to the MHL because production like that isn't a joke.

Here are the guys that had above a 10 NHLe in their D-1:

Player D-AgeHeightWeightPositionF/DLeague 2020-21TeamGPGPPPGNHLe 20-21
Yurov, Danila18.76'1"172WFMHLMagnitogorsk2313251.08715.15
Gaucher, Nathan18.96'3"198C/WFQMJHLQuebec3014311.033313.47
Geekie, Conor18.46'4"205CFWHLWinnipeg249230.958312.73
Verreault, Antonin18.15'8"163WFQMJHLGatineau316290.935512.20
Minten, Fraser18.26'0"161WFWHLKamloops204180.911.96
Howard, Isaac18.55'10"174WFUSHLUSDP2816331.178611.40
Nazar, Frank18.75'9"163WFUSHLUSDP3120361.161311.24
Savoie, Matthew18.75'10"181C/WFUSHLDubuque3421381.117610.81
Ostlund, Noah18.55'10"163C/WFJ20 NationellDjurgardens107151.510.58
Miroshnichenko, Ivan18.66'1"185WFMHLOmskie205150.7510.46
Vidicek, Markus18.55'10"161C/WFQMJHLHalifax4010310.77510.10
Cooley, Logan18.45'10"179C/WFUSHLUSDP2715281.03710.03
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Top-10 Defenseman by NHLe:

Player D-AgeHeightWeightPositionF/DLeague 2020-21TeamGPGPPPGNHLe 20-21
Nemec, Simon18.66'1"192RHDDSlovakiaHK Nitra372190.51358.76
Jiricek, David18.86'3"176RHDDCzechHC Plzen34390.26478.62
Safin-Tregubov, Sergei18.95'9"187LHDDMHLTolpar Ufa357210.68.36
Luneau, Tristan18.76'2"174RHDDQMJHLGatineau314180.58067.57
Mateychuk, Denton18.25'11"192LHDDWHLMoose Jaw16290.56257.47
Salomonsson, Elias18.16'1"161RHDDJ20 NationellSkelleftea1541517.05
Casey, Seamus18.75'10"161RHDDUSHLUSDP302200.66676.45
McCutcheon, Logan18.75'10"154RHDDWHLLethbridge231110.47836.35
Chesley, Ryan18.66'0"187RHDDUSHLUSDP276140.51855.02
Hutson, Lane18.65'6"165LHDDUSHLUSDP273140.51855.02
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Salomonsson looks like a very good skater and puck handler but from a shift by shift video I saw his decision making on the defensive side could get better.

Dolzhenkov I saw a video of like a week ago and was also intrigued by him. Good hands and a pretty good shot too. Definitely someone I will try to follow when I have time to watch more streams.

Arseni Koromyslov is another name I want to remember to keep an eye on.

Alexander Perevalov is another.

Ostlund on your list there looks very promising. I liked what I saw from him and how he plays. Might be one of my early favourites so far.


 
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Because the thread got sticked I updated my sheet with what the season looks like so far for 116 skaters. As a comparison to last season (I tracked 150 skaters), there were 38 guys who ended the season with 10+ NHLe in their D0. Currently this draft has only 32 guys. Here they are:

Player D-AgeHeightWeightPositionLeague TeamGPGPPPGNHLe 21-22
Kemell, Joakim18.45'11"176WLiigaJYP1612181.1333.39
Yurov, Danila18.76'1"172WMHLMagnitogorsk63122.0027.88
Trikozov, Gleb18.16'1"185C/WMHLOmskie4451.2517.43
Savoie, Matthew18.75'10"181C/WWHLWinnipeg136171.3117.37
Jiricek, David18.86'3"176RHDCzechHC Plzen17380.4715.32
Yakupov, Raul18.26'1"168WMHLReaktor1411151.0714.94
Firkus, Jagger18.45'10"150WWHLMoose Jaw102111.1014.61
Gustafson, Jordan18.75'11"179C/WWHLSeattle106111.1014.61
Geekie, Conor18.46'4"205CWHLWinnipeg135141.0814.31
Kvochko, Ilya18.65'9"159C/WMHLMagnitogorsk198191.0013.94
Gronick, Kyren18.65'11"174WWHLPrince George7271.0013.28
Cote, Justin18.25'6"148C/WQMJHLDummondville126121.0013.04
Gazizov, Ruslan18.75'10"187WOHLLondon1011.0012.71
Goyette, David18.55'10"152C/WOHLSudbury114111.0012.71
Poitras, Matthew18.55'10"161C/WOHLGuelph104101.0012.71
Wright, Shane18.76'1"187COHLKingston8381.0012.71
Kasper, Marco18.46'1"183C/WSHLRogle BK13340.3112.34
Gaucher, Nathan18.96'3"198C/WQMJHLQuebec126110.9211.95
Minten, Fraser18.26'0"161WWHLKamloops8570.8811.62
Cooley, Logan18.45'10"179C/WUSHLUSDP5261.2011.61
Arnsby, Liam18.85'10"174C/WOHLNorth Bay114100.9111.55
Nelson, Ty18.55'8"172RHDOHLNorth Bay112100.9111.55
Pettrovsky, Servac18.15'11"168C/WOHLOwen Sound10190.9011.44
Lekkerimaki, Jonathan18.25'11"172C/WJ20 NationellDjurgardens1616251.5611.02
Lisowsky, Brandon18.45'8"176WWHLSaskatoon11690.8210.87
Gendron, Alexis18.75'8"157C/WQMJHLBlainville-Boisbriand11590.8210.67
Mateychuk, Denton18.25'11"192LHDWHL Moose Jaw10380.8010.63
Ostlund, Noah18.55'10"163C/WJ20 NationellDjurgardens102151.5010.58
Nemec, Simon18.66'1"192RHDSlovakiaHK Nitra13080.6210.50
Miroshnichenko, Ivan18.66'1"185WVHL Omskie19490.4710.45
Safin-Tregubov, Sergei18.95'9"187LHDMHLTolpar Ufa195140.7410.27
Zhilkin, Danny18.86'2"183C/WOHLGuelph10280.8010.17
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Not too much to unpack yet as it's still ridiculously early, but all the "projected" top-10 guys are crushing it besides Lambert and Salomonsson.
 

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Anyone know anything about Kirill DOLZHENKOV?
6'7 rw projected in 1st round on a couple sites. Hasn't played above Russia u18 division.

It's going to be tough for him to stand out on a very stacked Russian offense this year.

If he can even make the squad, and that is far from a guarantee (he didn't make the Hlinka squad), he is almost certainly not getting premier minutes on a team that has Perevalov, Miroshnichenko, Kvochko, Michkov, Gazizov, But, Demidov, Trikozov, etc.
 

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Not too much to unpack yet as it's still ridiculously early, but all the "projected" top-10 guys are crushing it besides Lambert and Salomonsson.

Thanks for posting this. I'd say Wright isn't quite crushing it at the moment. PPG in the OHL, isn't typical first overall material.
 
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After posting the updates on the draft one guy that really stood out to me was David Jiricek, so I did some more digging.

1st right now for all first time eligible defenseman in NHLe (after being 2nd last season), and 5th including forwards. Already has as many points as he did last season in almost half the games.

At evens he has a 51.4 CF% with a -1 rel.CF%. Seems he's struggling defensively based on the numbers (second highest CA/60 for regular defenseman on his team), but that's not exactly surprising for a 17 year old in a good men's league playing unsheltered minutes (5th in OZS, 5th in total ice-time, but both are close enough for me to assume he's taken over a top-4 role at times). Not to mention he's 1st for defenseman in iCF/60 and goals on his team.

Watching his videos is fun too. He's a great skater, and a large offensive defenseman with potentially great puck skills (I need to see more). Also has a one-timer that is just ridiculous to go along with his love to step up in the gap and crush guys. Very interested in keeping an eye on him in CZE, guy looks like a future top-pairing guy. Not surprised he's ranked around 10 everywhere.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I'd say Wright isn't quite crushing it at the moment. PPG in the OHL, isn't typical first overall material.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he only played in the U18's last season. If he's at PPG by season's end there's an issue, but I'm expecting that to tick up a lot, and he's got a nice base right now.
 
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After posting the updates on the draft one guy that really stood out to me was David Jiricek, so I did some more digging.

1st right now for all first time eligible defenseman in NHLe (after being 2nd last season), and 5th including forwards. Already has as many points as he did last season in almost half the games.

At evens he has a 51.4 CF% with a -1 rel.CF%. Seems he's struggling defensively based on the numbers (second highest CA/60 for regular defenseman on his team), but that's not exactly surprising for a 17 year old in a good men's league playing unsheltered minutes (5th in OZS, 5th in total ice-time, but both are close enough for me to assume he's taken over a top-4 role at times). Not to mention he's 1st for defenseman in iCF/60 and goals on his team.

Watching his videos is fun too. He's a great skater, and a large offensive defenseman with potentially great puck skills (I need to see more). Also has a one-timer that is just ridiculous to go along with his love to step up in the gap and crush guys. Very interested in keeping an eye on him in CZE, guy looks like a future top-pairing guy. Not surprised he's ranked around 10 everywhere.

Seems like a great skater with a lot of great tools. Ranked in the mid first round but I suspect he'll probably rise to the top 10. Teams always drool on 6'3" skating defenseman.
 
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Seems like a great skater with a lot of great tools. Ranked in the mid first round but I suspect he'll probably rise to the top 10. Teams always drool on 6'3" skating defenseman.

The crazy part about him though is 6'3" skating, physical, and the offense is his calling card. Much weaker draft, but it'd be like Power being ranked 10. I don't think it's out of line to call them similar level prospects.
 

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How is this a weak draft when anyone from the top 10 this year would have easily gone number 1 last year?

Last draft was pretty bad, probably one of the weakest drafts of the last 20 years. 2022 is likely stronger but it's not overly great either early on. There's always a good top 5/10 almost every draft, it's also about the quality through all the rounds or at least the top 90. I just feel like the drop off seems big this year but we'll see. I could be very wrong.
 
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Last draft was pretty bad, probably one of the weakest drafts of the last 20 years. 2022 is likely stronger but it's overly great either early on. There's always a good top 5/10 almost every draft, it's also about the quality through all the rounds or at least the top 90. I just feel like the drop off seems big this year but we'll see. I could be very wrong.
I feel like the drop off probably has to do with the top guys just being top guys. I'm sure we'll look back on the draft and view it as a rather strong 1 in comparison. I'm thinking it'll look very similar to 2014. People viewed 2014 as a weak draft when in reality it was a draft with a lot of boom/bust types and a lot of them turned out.
 

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After posting the updates on the draft one guy that really stood out to me was David Jiricek, so I did some more digging.

1st right now for all first time eligible defenseman in NHLe (after being 2nd last season), and 5th including forwards. Already has as many points as he did last season in almost half the games.

At evens he has a 51.4 CF% with a -1 rel.CF%. Seems he's struggling defensively based on the numbers (second highest CA/60 for regular defenseman on his team), but that's not exactly surprising for a 17 year old in a good men's league playing unsheltered minutes (5th in OZS, 5th in total ice-time, but both are close enough for me to assume he's taken over a top-4 role at times). Not to mention he's 1st for defenseman in iCF/60 and goals on his team.

Watching his videos is fun too. He's a great skater, and a large offensive defenseman with potentially great puck skills (I need to see more). Also has a one-timer that is just ridiculous to go along with his love to step up in the gap and crush guys. Very interested in keeping an eye on him in CZE, guy looks like a future top-pairing guy. Not surprised he's ranked around 10 everywhere.

Sounds exciting... and likely well out of our reach, barring some trades where we pick up teams lower in the standings first.
 
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Last draft was pretty bad, probably one of the weakest drafts of the last 20 years. 2022 is likely stronger but it's not overly great either early on. There's always a good top 5/10 almost every draft, it's also about the quality through all the rounds or at least the top 90. I just feel like the drop off seems big this year but we'll see. I could be very wrong.

Imo 2021 was a draft where virtually anyone besides Eklund, Guenther, Beniers, Power, Hughes, Clarke, and Johnson probably shouldn't have gone in a normal top-15. That draft had a bunch of 1st round talent (maybe 40~ guys), but almost all of them were 15-30 type players. This draft seems to have quite a lot more of that top-15 talent (Wright, Miro, Lambert, Slafkovsky, Geekie, Kemell, Cooley, Savioe, Yurov, Nemec, Jiricek, Salomonsson), with potentially more to come, but less 1st round talent overall. Hurts we didn't see the D-1 season of any player in the OHL.

I'm feeling more nervous about not getting a great player late in the 1st round this draft than I was getting one in the 50's last draft. It's still very early though.
 
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