Hen Kolland
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Average size of Tampa’s forwards is 5’11”.
And apparently Raymond was a sub-5'10 winger if I recall that draft cycle as well...or at least that's what MBH would have me believe
Average size of Tampa’s forwards is 5’11”.
Is a he center though? I would only go winger/defense if we have no other good choices..I’m also really high on Mesar. The tenacity in his game and his hustle are things you can’t teach. On top of that his skating may be top 5 out of the guys ranked in the 1st. So is his stick handling.
High end skill and skating with strong work ethic is usually a recipe for success.
From what I know he mostly plays center in the Slovak league. There are questions, as there always is, about his size, but I wouldn't worry about that.Is a he center though? I would only go winger/defense if we have no other good choices..
Is a he center though? I would only go winger/defense if we have no other good choices..
And apparently Raymond was a sub-5'10 winger if I recall that draft cycle as well...or at least that's what MBH would have me believe
Agreed on both of these. Ohgren at 30 or whatever seems wicked low to me too (especially with Lekkerimaki clocking in near the top on Pronner's list). Ohgren is the best Swede in the draft for me. Of all of the rankings that've come out in the past two or three weeks, this one's probably furthest from mine. But hey, it's draft content. I look forward to reading through it this evening to get a better feel for where our disagreements are.Mirosnichenko at 2, and Mesar at 29 are the things that stand out to me most.
After some time, I think this draft class is pretty average. I am not losing too much sleep if we miss out on a top 5 pick this year.
Here's my some dude on HFBoard's mid season list you probably shouldn't put any stock into but it's for discussion's sake. Each of these guys I've got about 2-3 games of viewing. Some guys I've yet to watch/pay attention to are Calle Odelius, Liam Ohgren, Marco Kasper, Jonathan Lekkerimaki, Tristan Luneau, Ryan Chesley, Owen Pickering, and any other guys not listed.
1. Shane Wright
2. Matthew Savoie
3. Logan Cooley
4. Simon Nemec
5. David Jiricek
6. Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Brad Lambert (I still believe, please fall to us)
8. Danila Yurov
9. Seamus Casey
10. Frank Nazar
11. Filip Mesar
12. Joakim Kemell
13. Conor Geekie
14. Gleb Trikozov
15. Jiri Kulich
16. Isaac Howard
17. Ivan Miroshnichenko
18. Ty Nelson
19. Noah Ostlund
20. Cutter Gauthier
It's similar to the 2021 draft in that the guys ranked between 2 and 12 are more picks of preference rather than clear cut superior players. (At the moment)
Where 2021 was strong at D and weak at C, it's the opposite for the 2022 class. Otherwise I think it's close in value.
Here's my some dude on HFBoard's mid season list you probably shouldn't put any stock into but it's for discussion's sake. Each of these guys I've got about 2-3 games of viewing. Some guys I've yet to watch/pay attention to are Calle Odelius, Liam Ohgren, Marco Kasper, Jonathan Lekkerimaki, Tristan Luneau, Ryan Chesley, Owen Pickering, and any other guys not listed.
1. Shane Wright
2. Matthew Savoie
3. Logan Cooley
4. Simon Nemec
5. David Jiricek
6. Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Brad Lambert (I still believe, please fall to us)
8. Danila Yurov
9. Seamus Casey
10. Frank Nazar
11. Filip Mesar
12. Joakim Kemell
13. Conor Geekie
14. Gleb Trikozov
15. Jiri Kulich
16. Isaac Howard
17. Ivan Miroshnichenko
18. Ty Nelson
19. Noah Ostlund
20. Cutter Gauthier
Ohgren is the best Swede in the draft for me. Of all of the rankings that've come out in the past two or three weeks, this one's probably furthest from mine.
Yes. Mesar said it himself. He feels the most comfortable when he plays as a center because he's been playing as a C his whole life. He's ok with RW too.Mesar is 100% a center. He's playing center on his team right now. He's not a defensive stalwart but he's far from a liability. From what the games I caught with him, he works hard all over and doesn't cheat for offense. It's smaller things like attention to detail, overcommitting to one player instead of taking the passing option away. Very teachable skills.
I thought last year was a bit below average, but the Defense prospects might bring that class up to average.
This year I like the group of forwards better, but the defense and goalie groups are below average IMO.
Is a he center though? I would only go winger/defense if we have no other good choices..
Mesar is 100% a center. He's playing center on his team right now. He's not a defensive stalwart but he's far from a liability. From what the games I caught with him, he works hard all over and doesn't cheat for offense. It's smaller things like attention to detail, overcommitting to one player instead of taking the passing option away. Very teachable skills.
Kulich to me is the guy you take if you're looking for an excellent two way center. I don't think he has the offensive upside of Mesar, which is why Mesar is higher, but he makes up for it in his defensive game. Like a smaller Philip Danault.Love Kulich, he is flying under the radar
If you are hell bent on a center, I think you are going to be disappointed with the first round of this draft class.
I acknowledge his risk, but to me it's worth it if he's available. Colorado has shown how big skilled wingers can dominate the game for you, and I think Slafkovsky would add that element to our team nicely. Even if he ends up another Puljujarvi, that's still a useful player.Slafkovsky could be another Puljujarvi but I like his game. Big kid, good shot. I don’t think this is the draft where we find our #1/#2 center anyway.
I really liked Gut for the 2020 draft--I think (but those who are more familiar with the rules can clarify) he can be signed as a free agent after the CHL season.I don't know about this guy but I like his assist numbers in whl
Michal Gut at eliteprospects.com
Slafkovsky could be another Puljujarvi but I like his game. Big kid, good shot. I don’t think this is the draft where we find our #1/#2 center anyway.
It’s hard to say if Puljujarvi would have had a completely different development for a better franchise. Their games seem similar though, which is something we could use.MPS is one of my biggest draft misses ever, but I love Slafkovsky. I think he has among the highest upside in this draft class.