WJC: 2021 Germany Roster Talk

[NJ Fan 12]

Deservedly much of the attention on this team has been on the players from this year's draft. But was curious about some of the team's 19-year-olds who have gotten a lot less acclaim.

Are any of them the type of late bloomers that could shine at the tournament? Julian Chrobot, for instance, scored four goals in his first six games in Germany's second league to start the year.

Anything worth watching?

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[novisor]

Is Moritz Seider being released? If so Germany could surprise along with Stutzle, Peterka, etc.

 

[novisor]

Is Moritz Seider being released? If so Germany could surprise along with Stutzle, Peterka, etc.

Just saw that Seider isn't playing. A huge blow to this team. However, given the Reichel, Stutzle, and Peterka all played together last year and showed flashes of brilliance as a line of draft-eligible 17 year olds, this year as line of 18 year old's with the experience of last year behind them I expect this line to dominate at times against the Swiss and Slovaks. I do not expect this team to be playing for relegation.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Just saw that Seider isn't playing. A huge blow to this team. However, given the Reichel, Stutzle, and Peterka all played together last year and showed flashes of brilliance as a line of draft-eligible 17 year olds, this year as line of 18 year old's with the experience of last year behind them I expect this line to dominate at times against the Swiss and Slovaks. I do not expect this team to be playing for relegation.

There’s no relegation this year.

 

[Statsy]

I think this team will definitely have some weapons, but losing Seider is a tough blow.

 

[JabbaJabba]

That top line can do some damage, but otherwise I am not too optimistic about Germany's chances. Missing Seider hurts them big time and that defence just isn't that good. The offence is counting on one line too much.

 

[Oberyn Martell]

I am not too optimistic either. Defense seems ok for german standards but missing Seider is a huge blow. Pretty sure they wont go with a Stützle, Peterka and Reichel line so pretty curious what they can do. Goalie situation seems pretty uncomfortable with Ancicka out, no real starter now. Goal has to be quarterfinal especially with Switzerland and Slovakia not having great rosters and then see what we can do in quarterfinal

 

[JabbaJabba]

I am not too optimistic either. Defense seems ok for german standards but missing Seider is a huge blow. Pretty sure they wont go with a Stützle, Peterka and Reichel line so pretty curious what they can do. Goalie situation seems pretty uncomfortable with Ancicka out, no real starter now. Goal has to be quarterfinal especially with Switzerland and Slovakia not having great rosters and then see what we can do in quarterfinal

What happened to Ancicka?

 

[krishiigonzalez]

What happened to Ancicka?

Covid-19

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Covid-19

Why won't he be back? The tournament doesn't start for three weeks.

 

[krishiigonzalez]

i don't know. maybe because the preparation camp starts tomorrow.

 

[kalle wirsch]

Nino Kinder and Lukas Reichel will miss the tournament
They are positiv on Covid 19

 

[TheGreekShot]

Nino Kinder and Lukas Reichel will miss the tournament
They are positiv on Covid 19

Both are tough losses for an already thin German team. Their top 6 looked pretty solid before this, now I just don't see them being able to compete with the big 5 unfortunately.

 

[iginlafan77]

Both are tough losses for an already thin German team. Their top 6 looked pretty solid before this, now I just don't see them being able to compete with the big 5 unfortunately.

Realistically, I still think Germany should be able to compete with Slovakia and Switzerland. But before these losses, I would have pegged Germany as the favorite to finish third in the group, now it's more of a toss up

 

[smitty10]

Nino Kinder and Lukas Reichel will miss the tournament
They are positiv on Covid 19

More than 2 weeks until the tournament starts. Why can't they quarantine and then come back when they're negative?

Pretty ridiculous rules if you ask me. Unless the team doesn't want them because they miss camp, this doesn't make much sense.

 

[iginlafan77]

More than 2 weeks until the tournament starts. Why can't they quarantine and then come back when they're negative?

Pretty ridiculous rules if you ask me. Unless the team doesn't want them because they miss camp, this doesn't make much sense.

The rule is that everyone enters the tournament bubble on December 13th, and you have to have tested negative multiple times (I believe 3) over the past week in your individual country bubble.
These players will not be past the potentially contagious stage before the 13th, and there currently is no possibility of entering the tournament bubble after that date.

 

[novisor]

This really sucks for the German team. Losing Reichel after their top defenceman deciding not to attend (Seider) really diminishes their chances. I think there will be too much on the soulders Peterka and Stutzle now.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Ugh this really annoys me. I'm always a sucker for the underdog, and Germany's roster this year looked like it could be goo enough to maybe even medal if they had a great event. Now they've lost their 2nd and 4th best forwards, their starting goalie, and their only high end defenseman has opted out. May make the QF, but even that's far from certain and I don't like their chances of making rhe SF anymore. Next year Seider's too old, probably no Stutzle either as I expect he'll be in the NHL. It felt like this was the year and it's been destroyed.

 

[Statsy]

Ugh this really annoys me. I'm always a sucker for the underdog, and Germany's roster this year looked like it could be goo enough to maybe even medal if they had a great event. Now they've lost their 2nd and 4th best forwards, their starting goalie, and their only high end defenseman has opted out. May make the QF, but even that's far from certain and I don't like their chances of making rhe SF anymore. Next year Seider's too old, probably no Stutzle either as I expect he'll be in the NHL. It felt like this was the year and it's been destroyed.

It’s really unfortunate, but I’ll take the optimist’s position and mention that they are starting to churn out top prospects with regularity. Plus the immense success of Draisatl in the NHL will hopefully convert the next generation of young athletes in Germany to hockey. Though this year seems like a missed opportunity, I don’t think it’s their last kick at the can. Hopefully we are just seeing the first spark of a golden generation.

 

[Canada4Gold]

It’s really unfortunate, but I’ll take the optimist’s position and mention that they are starting to churn out top prospects with regularity. Plus the immense success of Draisatl in the NHL will hopefully convert the next generation of young athletes in Germany to hockey. Though this year seems like a missed opportunity, I don’t think it’s their last kick at the can. Hopefully we are just seeing the first spark of a golden generation.

Hopefully. Though this years expected German team was much higher level than the example I'm about the give, the same didn't really translate to those 3 or 4 years of decent Denmark teams we had. Minus Ehlers, and Bjorkstrand there were no really high level guys, but they had that fun run of underdog status with some solid players mixed in. That has all but faded by now.

 

[Statsy]

Hopefully. Though this years expected German team was much higher level than the example I'm about the give, the same didn't really translate to those 3 or 4 years of decent Denmark teams we had. Minus Ehlers, and Bjorkstrand there were no really high level guys, but they had that fun run of underdog status with some solid players mixed in. That has all but faded by now.

Those Denmark locker room celebrations were gold medal worthy!

 

[Canada4Gold]

Those Denmark locker room celebrations were gold medal worthy!

That year they finished 2nd in their pool, I think it was 2017 was fun, 1-1-1-1 record, not sure we've seen that before. Unfortunately because they were in the weaker pool they still had to play Russia in the QF. Rough year for Finland, similar to the time Finland won 2 games but had to play in the relegation after Switzerland won 1 game but lost the other 3 in OT to finish with more points. I doubt we'll ever seen that again, a team go 2-2 and have to play relegation, though the 8 QF teams make that near impossible now. The Swiss went on to almost upset Russia in the QF, but Russia tied it late and won in a shootout. Played 5 games that year, only won 1 but didn't lose any in relegation. Strange times.

I feel like we do this every year, reminisce about the memorable old tournaments.

 

[iginlafan77]

Looks like the Germans have added a few players to the camp roster (according to EliteProspects).
I believe they had been down to 23 people with the covid issues, they're now up to 26.
I'm honestly not sure who's been added, other than goalie Jonas Gahr.

Edit: Looks like Jan-Luca Schumacher and Enrico Henriquez-Morales are the two other adds.

U20-Bundestrainer Abstreiter muss auch auf Lindner verzichten – Henriquez-Morales und Schumacher mit im Camp | Deutscher Eishockey-Bund e.V.

 

[Halfdan]

Goalie situation seems pretty uncomfortable with Ancicka out, no real starter now.

That is only half the truth.Ancicka is a loss - no question, but Florian Bugl is by far the best German goalkeeper in 2002 and definitely a starter. With Bugl in goal, you can feel safe as a defender.

 

[Maverick41]

Since they are playing in Edmonton, might it be possible to sneak Leon Draisaitl and Dominik Kahun on the team? You think anyone would notice?