2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[DramaticGloveSave]

If anything, skating is the only thing Borgstrom clearly has an advantage in. While being 3 years older.

It's a major advantage... I also think his puck skills and shot are ahead as well.

No doubt Kotkaniemi was the better 17 year old... but the development Borgstrom has made 18-21 has been meteoric. We can't just assume Kotkaniemi develops like that, few guys ever have.

 

[Andrei79]

Borgstrom to me just has a much more dynamic skillset- particularly in skating where they are worlds apart. The fact he could step in also makes him more attractive.

What's interesting here is that you're using a Finnish player who needed some work on his skating, leg stength and was a reach at the time to discredit the Kotkaniemi pick at 3.

But, I guess you get these centers through trade, right ?

 

[Andrei79]

It's a major advantage... I also think his puck skills and shot are ahead as well.

No doubt Kotkaniemi was the better 17 year old... but the development Borgstrom has made 18-21 has been meteoric. We can't just assume Kotkaniemi develops like that, few guys ever have.

Actually, you can assume there's a good probability for it. He's turning 18 only in July and he's had a steep curve this year, including in his skating. All while having putting up impressive numbers in a mens league.

 

[G0bias]

I combine length and strength. Length also doesn't just mean height- you don't play with your forehead. Length for me is more range on the ice, primarily the distance from your feet to your stickblade.

Also heights and weights are all unofficial until I see them at the combine so there could be some tweaking there. Maybe Quinn Hughes shows up at 5'11" 185? Maybe Zadina comes in under 6'? Maybe Tkachuk is 6'4"?

And ya, using the 20-80 scale.

Svechnikov is probably the strongest guy the draft though, an absolute bull on skates. Kid's a freak.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

What's interesting here is that you're using a Finnish player who needed some work on his skating, leg stength and was a reach at the time to discredit the Kotkaniemi pick at 3.

But, I guess you get these centers through trade, right ?

Borgstrom has already developed. That makes him the more valuable asset.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Svechnikov is probably the strongest guy the draft though, an absolute bull on skates. Kid's a freak.

We'll see come combine, that category is definitely subject to change

 

[Anardil]

When does the hockey news draft guide come out... it's normally pretty bad, but it's cheap and fun!

It's already available. I have a copy.

 

[Andrei79]

TRADING THE 3RD OA STRAIGHT UP FOR BORGSTROM? what da

He's trying to prove a point, namely that Kotkaniemi's not worth the 3rd pick.

You know, since he was so awful at the WJC.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

You guys are mental, I just prefer Borgstrom to Kotkaniemi.

 

[The Great Weal]

You guys are mental, I just prefer Borgstrom to Kotkaniemi.

You literally said that you like Vilardi more than Borgstorm. Vilardi is an AWFUL skater.

 

[Andrei79]

You literally said that you like Vilardi more than Borgstorm. Vilardi is an AWFUL skater.

Vilardi's a whole cut above Borgstrom, actually.

 

[The Great Weal]

Vilardi's a whole cut above Borgstrom, actually.

I dont agree

 

[Andrei79]

I dont agree

I was citing DGS lol.

 

[The Great Weal]

I was citing DGS lol.

f*** man, I can't even tell anymore.

 

[LastWordArmy]

I like your site, but from a pure formatting perspective, I'd find it convenient if there was an easy way to look at your list from #1 on. Perhaps with clickable links.

do you mean like this page? which is linked in the first paragraph of every draft profile.

2018 NHL Entry Draft Headquarters - Last Word on Hockey

 

[The Great Weal]

AlexAlexAlex or the other defenseman named rasmus?

 

[G0bias]

We'll see come combine, that category is definitely subject to change

Meh. I'm more interested in how that translates on the ice. Tkachuk is strong but his balance isn't all that great yet. Svechnikov's lower body strength allows him to dominate in the corners and holding defenders off. And a big reason why he generates such speed at that size.

That said, I always thought the strength tests at the combine were dumb as it rarely recreates real hockey scenarios. They basically do the exact same tests they do at NFL combines despite being two completely different sports.

 

[G0bias]

AlexAlexAlex or the other defenseman named rasmus?

AleXXX

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

You literally said that you like Vilardi more than Borgstorm. Vilardi is an AWFUL skater.

That doesn't mean I don't like Borgstrom?

 

[NotProkofievian]

He's trying to prove a point, namely that Kotkaniemi's not worth the 3rd pick.

You know, since he was so awful at the WJC.

It's like the guy didn't even show up to a single game! Questionable compete level, IMHO.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It's a major advantage... I also think his puck skills and shot are ahead as well.

No doubt Kotkaniemi was the better 17 year old... but the development Borgstrom has made 18-21 has been meteoric. We can't just assume Kotkaniemi develops like that, few guys ever have.

He's already better as a 17 year old than Borgström was as an 18 year old. He'll be the better 19 and 20 year old too.

 

[MrNasty]

It's already available. I have a copy.

Players that the THN has ranked more favourably than most are:
Tkachuk
Sandin
Dellandrea
Woo
Perunovich
Ranta

Guys they ranked less favourably than most:
Kotkaniemi
Kupari
Merkley
Addison
Hallander

 

[Fazkovsky]

I want Veleno badly

 

[WeThreeKings]

I want Veleno badly

You shouldn't. He's not very good.

 

[Fazkovsky]

You shouldn't. He's not very good.

How?