2018 Hall of Fame Ballot released (Vlad, Chipper, Thome & Hoffman are in)

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Promising for Bonds and Clemens but how in the world does Vizquel have more than Rolen lol

Looking like it may be a big class in 2018.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Promising for Bonds and Clemens but how in the world does Vizquel have more than Rolen lol

Looking like it may be a big class in 2018.

Disgusting, although I'm not surprised

Edit: I meant Rolen vs. Vizquel

 

[Fenway]

Larry Brooks has a vote????

 

[Terry Yake]

^that's one good looking ballot to me

although i would not give sheffield a vote

 

[Neutrinos]

^that's one good looking ballot to me

although i would not give sheffield a vote

A .393 career OBP is pretty impressive - especially when it's attached to 500+ homeruns

 

[robert terwilliger]

sheffield is big market edgar martinez.

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[Voight]

Larry Brooks has a vote????

The voting pool has shrunk considerably but it used to be massive. Just a few years ago they found out some of the voters hadn't written about the sport in 10 years, after that they cut a lot of journalists out but I guess Brooksie still qualifies.

 

[Cheese Wagstaff]

Actually didn't remember Sheffield cleared 500 home runs. He'd have a much louder support if he hadn't played for forty teams in his career. He's pretty much on the borderline for me, but I'd give him a vote using the 500 home runs and the most entertaining right handed swing ever as the tiebreakers.

 

[rangerssharks414]

^that's one good looking ballot to me

although i would not give sheffield a vote

That ballot gets my approval just because Hoffman's box isn't filled.

 

[Terry Yake]

sheffield is borderline to me but i'd rather give my vote to johan santana

 

[MS]

^that's one good looking ballot to me

although i would not give sheffield a vote

No kidding.

I might swap Sheffield and Schilling but otherwise that ballot is spot-on.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I screwed up earlier, Bonds and Clemens didn't actually gain any votes:

Walker +19 Vlad +19 Edgar +13 Schilling +11 Mussina +8 Hoffman +5 McGriff +2 Clemens +1 Sheffield +1 Bonds/Manny/Sosa +/- 0 ----- Wagner -3 Kent -3

Hoffman was 5 short last year and is up 5 this year, looks like he might squeak in.

 

[robert terwilliger]

that joe nathan induction is going to be something else, i'll tell you hwat.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Promising for Bonds and Clemens but how in the world does Vizquel have more than Rolen lol

Looking like it may be a big class in 2018.

I don't see why your blasting that

Vizquel was one of the most underrated players of his era and finest defensive player IMO of his era. I would love to see him get into HOF

Vizquel was his generations Luis Aparicio

 

[EpochLink]

I don't see why your blasting that

Vizquel was one of the most underrated players of his era and finest defensive player IMO of his era. I would love to see him get into HOF

Vizquel was his generations Luis Aparicio

I'd vote for Vizquel as well, if only those Indians teams won at least one of those World Series he'd be more appreciated.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I don't see why your blasting that

Vizquel was one of the most underrated players of his era and finest defensive player IMO of his era. I would love to see him get into HOF

Vizquel was his generations Luis Aparicio

I know WAR isn't everything, but when there's a huge gap like there is for bWAR (Rolen is at 70, and Vizquel is at 45.3), there's no discussion. His career OPS+ is 82. Eighty-two!

Aparicio is one of the worst players to ever get into the HOF.

 

[rangerssharks414]

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[quesosauce]

needs moar Larry Walk........er

 

[Voight]

Bonds/Clemens doing ok, mind you the last couple years their % has fallen off as we get closer to the announcement.

Tho most of the articles I've read on Cooperstown for this year indicate the writers are ready to induct them and put aside any and all allegations.

 

[darko]

That ballot gets my approval just because Hoffman's box isn't filled.

Or Omar Vizquel.

 

[darko]

I don't see why your blasting that

Vizquel was one of the most underrated players of his era and finest defensive player IMO of his era. I would love to see him get into HOF

Vizquel was his generations Luis Aparicio

He doesn't belong to HOF. And using Aparicio as an argument only makes it worse.

 

[Voight]

Nice to see McCovey speak up for Bonds after Morgan's joke of a letter.

 

[Bjorn Le]

Bonds/Clemens doing ok, mind you the last couple years their % has fallen off as we get closer to the announcement.

Tho most of the articles I've read on Cooperstown for this year indicate the writers are ready to induct them and put aside any and all allegations.

That's normal, but at least we've been seeing the % fall off less than it used to. They won't get in this year, but maybe in the next 2 or 3.

Nice to see Schilling and Walker trending upwards as well, though Walker is almost certainly going to have to wait for a Veterans Committee meeting to get in.

 

[542365]

I'm a Cards homer, so maybe I'm blind to this, but can someone explain to me why Vizquel is more Hall worthy than Rolen? Neither guy belongs in the Hall, but if you had to choose one, how could Vizquel beat out Rolen? Vizquel stole more bases and played a more difficult position. That's about the only thing I see Vizquel having over Rolen. Rolen's bat was substantially better, and he was a great defensive 3B as well. It's not like Vizquel was Ozzie Smith reincarnated in the field to make up the difference(and even Ozzie was a better hitter in his era than Omar was in his). I really can't understand how Vizquel has anything on Rolen.

EDIT: Also, f*** the guy(s) who didn't vote for Chipper.

 

[tony d]

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