2017 NHL Entry Draft - Thread V6 - Leafs at 17
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TheMadHatTrick
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Not that I want Yamamoto but this is exactly what I meant before Ernie. You say you don't write off prospects based on not preferring their type or playing style and then say stuff like this, in which you essentially do just that. It's fine cause everyone does it whether consciously or unconsciously which was exactly what I pointed out before. I just found it funny that you said that you were some kind of exception when having been on the board with you for so long I knew that just wasn't the case. Even I would not say that about myself even when I think I'm more or less open minded about all types of players haha.
I absolutely will write off a 5'7, 153lb kid in the first 3 rounds. We have no need for that anywhere before the 6th/7th round
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Not sure anyone is sleeping on him. I don't think anyone believes he'll be available at #17.
TheMadHatTrick
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Fair enough. I wouldn't want him at 17 either but who knows what Hunter and his scouts want.
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How many 5'7 NHL players are there?
Not saying he cant be an excellent player, but he has an uphill battle. As does Brannstrom coming in at 5'9
What will be the identity of this year's draft for the Leafs?
2015 - elite talent (looked for high-skilled, potential impact players regardless of size)
2016 - glue guys (guys with size that could help to one day add some balance and grit to the lineup)
2017 - ? (Obvious guess would be D heavy, but who knows for sure?)
2015 - elite talent (looked for high-skilled, potential impact players regardless of size)
2016 - glue guys (guys with size that could help to one day add some balance and grit to the lineup)
2017 - ? (Obvious guess would be D heavy, but who knows for sure?)
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Canucks army made a scouting report on him, you might be surprised how underrated he might be
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/02/nation-network-2017-prospect-profiles-34-robert-thomas/
They don't really justify their arguments very well in that piece. Also Canucks have the #33, he would be a good pick at that spot. Our agenda is different, we pick #17. At #17,unless some type of nightmare scenario happened, he wouldn't be BPA.
I'm more worried that Hunter, with his close ties to London, will have a bias towards him. I'm not convinced Thomas has that much upside to him, but legitimately has a fair amount of risk.
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My wild guess is they'll focus on speed/skill again and not put a preference on bigger/older players this time around. Not to say they won't take a guy like Foote/Hauge at #17, but past the first round I think they go speed/skill. I'm predicting a heavy crop of Euro's (Swede/Finn) this year....absolutely nothing to base the last prediction on!
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We could sneak in an extra player and the refs will look right over him!
But the media will be quick to make the narrative that Hunter's player evaluations are based on as if he's getting guys for his Knights squad.
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Yeah based on the most recent lists I don't think Hague or Timmins go in the top 20 so there is a strong chance clear BPA at 15-20 is a forward. Hope they can grab a second late 1st, but other than a JVR deal I am not sure that's doable.
My use of the word is rather precise IMO. Matthews-like talent will rarely ever re-emerge
He's that good. The Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf were being outshined by Auston ever since the World Cup tournament. Opposing teams were double, double+ teaming while his left winger was truncated and his D support was second to Bozak's line. Actually, it was third since Kadri spent a lot of time with the shutdown pair which includes a young defenseman who posseses natural offensive talent that few in the NHL possess.
Outside of Crosby and possibly McDavid, he looks toup there with Karlsson, Malkin and Ovechkin. As for generational, that term is for Sidney alone. That man is arguably up there with Gretzky despite his "pastoral" North-South playing style. In fact, even Wayne was a bit agrarian never looking as "industrial" as Bure or Lemieux so maybe that's why flash-limited ( despite his unworldly stick-handling in tight) Matthews are very underrated.
I wonder how much sway Burke holds in the Flames organization?
Hague is a big kid with a bit of truculence
Sounds right for a Burkie type pick
Size can matter but it is assessed erroneously. Gardiner is around the same height as Doughty and Subban and yet far weaker physically. It's not even weight but rather limb proportion/ thickness. This is why someone like Evander Kane is super-strong despite not being 220lbs despite being 6'2".
I think we need to talk about thickness of legs, femur/wingspan-height ratio, compactness or torso proportions and what have you. As we see with Brannstorm, his lack of size is overstated. He's mechanically built to be a powerful a lot like Nylander.
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I'm hoping the teams drafting early fall asleep at the wheel and we can get our hands on Pettersson. If he makes it to pick 9 or 10, I'd move up. Would personally take him first overall in the draft.
I really hope we land some D's and centres. Pretty big holes in our prospect pool in those positions.
We need to acquire the best possible asset regardless of how they fit on the NHL team. If the organization feels its Yamamoto I'm fine with that.
I could quite easily see who we draft today being traded in the next year in a half for a package for a D to fix our hole in our top 4 on the RHD. Using this, and other future assets (potentially the 2018 pick and a B prospect). Maybe our best course of option.
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