Post-Game Talk: 2017-18 Around the League Thread | Luca Sbisa, Stanley Cup Goat

[MadaCanuckle]

Senators were 1 goal away of being in the Stanley Cup finals last year. This year, the owners/management group did a lot of mistakes and the fans reacted.

Melnyk Out billboards are up

Didn't see Friedman doing some rounds of positivity there. And how about fans in Vancouver doing something along these lines?

 

[Wilch]

I'm so happy that VGK is absolutely killing it right now. The fact they assembled a (likely) 100 point regular season team using other team's castoffs just completely invalidates the garbage "if Stanton is so good why hasn't other teams signed him" type argument from Jimbo fans.

 

[arttk]

There are no other options as far as they're concerned...I'd say its a given that next years Flames are going to look very much like this years....All they will do is shuffle some bottom six forwards around.

I mean that’s just the process of building out a good team, they have a lot of the core parts already. Not sure why people are down on them that much. They are way closer than we are and god I hate Calgary.

 

[vancityluongo]

Calgary reminds me of the 2007-08 Canucks. Just had a lot of shit go wrong, but if they get another breakout from their stars, watch out.

I think their offseason plan should be to get a young 1B type backup (Grubauer) to platoon with Smith, move Brodie while his reputation league wide is still high, and possibly add a RW in free agency (James Neal would be a wicked fit for them).

A couple changes and that's a high seed playoff team. They're in an incredibly envious position compared to us.

I'm so happy that VGK is absolutely killing it right now. The fact they assembled a (likely) 100 point regular season team using other team's castoffs just completely invalidates the garbage "if Stanton is so good why hasn't other teams signed him" type argument from Jimbo fans.

Nah, that won't stop them. I've already heard two people (one Nucks fan one not) say "lol Sbisa is good enough for Vegas, guess he wasn't so bad then lol"

 

[Wilch]

Nah, that won't stop them. I've already heard two people (one Nucks fan one not) say "lol Sbisa is good enough for Vegas, guess he wasn't so bad then lol"

You're right. Morons will be morons.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I didn’t know Sbisa was a Mormon.

 

[M2Beezy]

I didn’t know Sbisa was a Mormon.

Really? Ne neither to each their own i guess

I thought he got too hard of a ride by Canucks fans its not his falt he was overpaid by the leagues worst GM. Who wouldnt have taken that contract? I still think hes a third pairing guy probably closer to a #6 then a #5

 

[Hit the post]

I'm so happy that VGK is absolutely killing it right now. The fact they assembled a (likely) 100 point regular season team using other team's castoffs just completely invalidates the garbage "

....of "Benning can't be faulted for anything because he inherited a bare prospect cupboard". Wtf prospect board did McPhee inherit? That said, I will admit, that before this season, I would've ranked Benning above McPhee in terms of GM ability.

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

I didn’t know Sbisa was a Mormon.

Well that explains why Brother Sbisa didn't show up for work on Sundays.

Wonder what his excuse is for the rest of the days of the week.


Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum...

 

[stampedingviking]

Really? Ne neither to each their own i guess

I thought he got too hard of a ride by Canucks fans its not his falt he was overpaid by the leagues worst GM. Who wouldnt have taken that contract? I still think hes a third pairing guy probably closer to a #6 then a #5

What contract did Chia give him?

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I mean that’s just the process of building out a good team, they have a lot of the core parts already. Not sure why people are down on them that much. They are way closer than we are and god I hate Calgary.

The thing is
Most of their "core" are overrated, they are just no that good, the so call best D core in the league is mediocre and getting older. Yet people,will keep defending them for some reason

 

[arttk]

The thing is
Most of their "core" are overrated, they are just no that good, the so call best D core in the league is mediocre and getting older. Yet people,will keep defending them for some reason

The point about "getting older", yeah humans tend to do that. The only really old guy is Giordano, the rest of the D are in their prime or are about to enter their prime. I don't think they have that true #1 guy but Hamonic, Brodie, Hamilton and Stone (purposely leaving out Giordano because of age) can be a really good top4.

I don't think their problem is defense though, it's mostly their forward depth, the lack of a good true 2nd line center and goalies being really average to below average. Forward depth is a hell lot easier to fix, they can pray for Bennet to suddenly rediscover his 18 year old playoff form or get a 2nd line center through trade or UFA. Too lazy to check on what their cap is like but their roster doesn't look like it should be that crazy expensive so they should be able to pay for one in the UFA market, even if it's just a short term 1-3 year stop gap solution.

Of course I would rather see them not fix their goalie and not fix their forward depth.

 

[Kryten]

I didn’t know Sbisa was a Mormon.

Drafted out of Lethbridge, plays for the closest team to Utah. Sounds Mormon to me

 

[Pip]

Is Backlund not a true #2 centre?

 

[M2Beezy]

Drafted out of Lethbridge, plays for the closest team to Utah. Sounds Mormon to me

Well thats lousy logic if Ive heard of it

 

[Addison Rae]

Is Backlund not a true #2 centre?

He’s what Jim Benning thinks Brandon Sutter is.

 

[M2Beezy]

He’s what Jim Benning thinks Brandon Sutter is.

Patrice Bergeron?

 

[arttk]

Is Backlund not a true #2 centre?

I mean if they want to be a true contender, they want like a Horvat kind of guy on their 2nd line.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

I mean if they want to be a true contender, they want like a Horvat kind of guy on their 2nd line.

Backlund is fine if you have an elite #1 center to carry you. Monahan is very good but I don't think he will ever be mistaken for an elite #1 center that is going to carry you deep in the playoffs.

Calgary either needs to upgrade on Monahan or find a complimentry 1b type center. Monahan/Backlund duo is good but it's not good enough to win a stanley cup.

 

[krutovsdonut]

calgary to me are like a middle of the pack whl team with no first round picks on the squad. except for gaudreau, they lack poise, finesse and patience but can beat you under relying on brute force and the rush.

i can see them getting on a streaky run, but to me they are a busted core that will languish unless tkachuk can take another step.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Larry Kwong, the only Chinese-Canadian who had ever played in the nhl passed away today.
The guy served in the Canadian Military during war time. Only got to play 1 games with the Rangers and then got released (mostly due to racism)
Spent his career in the QHL, was a star in that league.

 

[Kryten]

Larry Kwong, the only Chinese-Canadian who has ever played in the nhl passed away today.
The guy served in the Canadian Military during war time. Only got to play 1 games with the Rangers and then got released (mostly due to racism)
Spent his career in the QHL, was a star in that league.

Thanks for the update, sad to hear. Trail Smoke Eaters alumni

 

[vancityluongo]

Looking around the league, there could be a lot of coaches on the hot seat after the season. Gulutzan, McLellan, Vigneault, Quenneville... never know what Melnyk chooses to do, so maybe Boucher too. Gotta imagine regardless of what happens to Holland that Jeff Blashill isn't that secure. Detroit is 0-9-1 in their last 10... maybe if Minnesota falls out or is eliminated quickly Boudreau is out too. Same for Torts.

Aside from Torts 2.0 and maybe Gully 2.0, I would take any of those guys over Green.

Edit: Actually, I would for sure take Torts 2.0. How f***ing fun would that be?!

 

[Zombotron]

The idea of Torts going off the payroll only to immediately be put back on is kind of funny

 

[arttk]

Backlund is fine if you have an elite #1 center to carry you. Monahan is very good but I don't think he will ever be mistaken for an elite #1 center that is going to carry you deep in the playoffs.

Calgary either needs to upgrade on Monahan or find a complimentry 1b type center. Monahan/Backlund duo is good but it's not good enough to win a stanley cup.

I think to be a contender, you really need like at least 2 guys that are Art Ross, Norris, Vezina level. Look at Pitts, Tampa, Nashville and former cup winners.

Flames have only 1 guy that can be at that level so to makeup for it, they need depth depth depth. So that’s why I think they need another 60pt 2nd line center to really compete.