And they traded one of their best drafts Sergachev for a meddling winger who's forced to play center.
And they are trying to run Galchenyuk a proven 30 goal player out of town.
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And they traded one of their best drafts Sergachev for a meddling winger who's forced to play center.
And they are trying to run Galchenyuk a proven 30 goal player out of town.
EpochLink
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As I think of it, Montreal in the past have traded away developed defensemen who are just entering their prime for not so much in return (or somewhat equal value but that does not net results)
Langway, Chelios, Desjardins and now Subban.
Langway, Chelios, Desjardins and now Subban.
Pfft who needs points from the blueline?
Fun fact...last night Blues d-men scored more goals then the Canucks 6 that were dressed have scored all year.....
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
The guy that we dealt Forsling for put up 11 points last season (which would rank him 5th with respect to points on the Canucks blueline last season) in only 31 NHL games.....for the Yotes.
Brandon Sutter....future HHOFer.
LickTheEnvelope
Time to Retool... again...
McDonagh before Subban and Sergachev after Subban.
Seems like they hate defense and love tiny forwards.
I had a really scary thought last night.
Currently - the Oilers are 2nd last in the Western Conference and tied with Florida for the 4th overall worst record in the league. Unless they get their act together really quickly, there is a good chance they will miss the playoffs.
Q: What happens when the Oilers miss the playoffs?
A: They win the draft lottery.
McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Nurse and Rasmus Dahlin!
How much would that suck?
Currently - the Oilers are 2nd last in the Western Conference and tied with Florida for the 4th overall worst record in the league. Unless they get their act together really quickly, there is a good chance they will miss the playoffs.
Q: What happens when the Oilers miss the playoffs?
A: They win the draft lottery.
McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Nurse and Rasmus Dahlin!
How much would that suck?
Egghead1999
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wait until they win the draft lottery the year after thatI had a really scary thought last night.
Currently - the Oilers are 2nd last in the Western Conference and tied with Florida for the 4th overall worst record in the league. Unless they get their act together really quickly, there is a good chance they will miss the playoffs.
Q: What happens when the Oilers miss the playoffs?
A: They win the draft lottery.
McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Nurse and Rasmus Dahlin!
How much would that suck?
Weird how you’d include nurse lolI had a really scary thought last night.
Currently - the Oilers are 2nd last in the Western Conference and tied with Florida for the 4th overall worst record in the league. Unless they get their act together really quickly, there is a good chance they will miss the playoffs.
Q: What happens when the Oilers miss the playoffs?
A: They win the draft lottery.
McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Nurse and Rasmus Dahlin!
How much would that suck?
Eddy Punch Clock
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Q: What happens when the Oilers miss the playoffs?
A: They win the draft lottery.
McDavid, Puljujarvi, Draisaitl, Nurse and Rasmus Dahlin!
Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Paajarvi-Svenson, Eberle and Gagner!
Melvin
21/12/05
Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Paajarvi-Svenson, Eberle and Gagner!
Boeser, Virtanen, Pettersson, Dahlen, Gaudette and Lind!
Eddy Punch Clock
Jack Adams 2028
You forgot Juolevi and the
.Plus the fact that ALL of the Oilers players were first rounders... a few overall too.
Melvin
21/12/05
You forgot Juolevi and the
Plus the fact that ALL of the Oilers players were first rounders... a few overall too.
I did forget about juolevi lol. I knew I was forgetting someone too.
Eddy Punch Clock
Jack Adams 2028
So far he's been pretty forgettable so you're forgiven.
Besides don't they say it's a good thing when you don't notice a d-man?
How is Arizona's gm doing how about the previous florida gm. There are a lot of posters who seem to think most gm's are dumb and that if younger stats savy gms were put in charge they would dominate. What they do not account for is how quickly the dinosaurs evolve.
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
No, nobody thinks this. They likely think it helps make better decisions in the long run but in 2-3 years? No one can turn the Titanic around overnight, short of winning a generational player in the lottery.
Maybe give these GMs the same 10 years that you used to pull all the cup winning teams from, eh? I mean unless you think it’s fair to list cup winners from a decade ago when analytics weren’t even a thing.
But then they will be older and more experienced GMs. If they last that long.
I think Arizona was stupid to turn the reigns over to a 26 year old with virtually no experience.
Well there’s 30 (now 31) teams and 27-28 are run by “old school” GMs who have been around for the entirety of the past decade vs 2-3 “analytics” GMs who have been on the scene for the last 3-4 years only.
Is it really surprising that the “old school” GMs have won all the cups? The odds are kinda in their favour here, no?
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Chayka floundering this year really has a certain crowd giddy about analytics failing but nobody was claiming he'd be batting 1.000 and winning multiple Cups. Rational people would only suggest that he'd over time become one of the better managers in the league. I'd trade our entire organization for theirs in a f***ing second, so that still holds.
Where being 26 years old has hurt Chayka is in the relationship/management side of things. Tocchet looks like a poor hire - not surprisingly, hiring a coach cannot be done with statistics. That's where a Jim Rutherford, Lou Lam or similar "dinosaur" has an advantage through pure life experience.
Steve Yzerman getting to learn from a dinosaur in Holland has made him the best GM in the league. I have no doubt that someone like Kyle Dubas will become an elite GM once he takes the reins somewhere. Stats aren't everything, but you're a fool if you think that Ron Delorme style gut feel guys have a very long shelf life in the sport.
Where being 26 years old has hurt Chayka is in the relationship/management side of things. Tocchet looks like a poor hire - not surprisingly, hiring a coach cannot be done with statistics. That's where a Jim Rutherford, Lou Lam or similar "dinosaur" has an advantage through pure life experience.
Steve Yzerman getting to learn from a dinosaur in Holland has made him the best GM in the league. I have no doubt that someone like Kyle Dubas will become an elite GM once he takes the reins somewhere. Stats aren't everything, but you're a fool if you think that Ron Delorme style gut feel guys have a very long shelf life in the sport.
May be worth mentioning that the new school way the Panthers operated the last bit might just have been hampered somewhat by a basically never healthy Barkov and injured Huberdeau last season. The new GM, who is also the old old GM and less inclined to look at analytics isn't fairing so well despite Barkov and Huberdeau off to great starts. He allowed a lot of depth to bleed away and it shows.
Melvin
21/12/05
At what point do we want to talk about the fact that Luca Sbisa is out scoring all our defensemen
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