2017-18 Around the League | Congratulations Washington Capitals!

[Soundwave]

Nashville would have had to want Eberle and be willing to protect him to make that trade.

No they leave him unprotected and Vegas takes him. Makes no difference to Nashville as they lose Neal either way, but we could've added in a pick to make it worth their while. If you're gonna lose the player either way, may as well get an extra pick out of it.

 

[North]

No they leave him unprotected and Vegas takes him. Makes no difference to Nashville as they lose Neal either way, but we could've added in a pick to make it worth their while. If you're gonna lose the player either way, may as well get an extra pick out of it.

What if Vegas decides they don't want Eberle and then Nashville is stuck with a player they don't want?

 

[nabob]

What if Vegas decides they don't want Eberle and then Nashville is stuck with a player they don't want?

Most likely scenario.

Even if we get Neal he could then walk after a year and we're left with nothing in return for Eberle rather than a young, controllable asset who is producing at a rate worth his deal.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Most likely scenario.

Even if we get Neal he could then walk after a year and we're left with nothing in return for Eberle rather than a young, controllable asset who is producing at a rate worth his deal.

The best idea would've been to just.... not trade Eberle. Especially if Strome was the best thing you could get back.

 

[North]

The best idea would've been to just.... not trade Eberle. Especially if Strome was the best thing you could get back.

Hoping that he returned to form even though his confidence was gone?

Then you have a player that is even harder to unload and you may not even get Strome back. You may have to retain in order to move him or settle for a later draft pick.

Eberle's play damaged his value. That's completely on Eberle. His contract further eroded his value.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Hoping that he returned to form even though his confidence was gone?

Then you have a player that is even harder to unload and you may not even get Strome back. You may have to retain in order to move him or settle for a later draft pick.

Eberle's play damaged his value. That's completely on Eberle. His contract further eroded his value.

Even in a down year Eberle still managed 50 points. I'd take that everyday over whatever Strome has to offer (which is cap space and nothing). The Oilers gave up a valuable player and got dick in return. And if you have to retain that's not the worst thing in the world.

The Oilers really need to stop trading players at their absolutely worst value. I thought we were done with that garbage. Instead Eberle and Barzal are lighting it up on the Island and the Oilers are pushing the basement.

If Strome was your best return then don't make the trade. We're not in cap trouble this year.

 

[North]

Even in a down year Eberle still managed 50 points. I'd take that everyday over whatever Strome has to offer (which is cap space and nothing). The Oilers gave up a valuable player and got dick in return. And if you have to retain that's not the worst thing in the world.

The Oilers really need to stop trading players at their absolutely worst value. I thought we were done with that garbage. Instead Eberle and Barzal are lighting it up on the Island and the Oilers are pushing the basement.

If Strome was your best return then don't make the trade. We're not in cap trouble this year.

Strome hasn't really been put in a position to succeed until recently.

You keep saying we can't trade players at their lowest point like there was a certainty that Eberle could recover his value while still with the Oilers and that isn't certain.

 

[nabob]

The best idea would've been to just.... not trade Eberle. Especially if Strome was the best thing you could get back.

Nah, one large positive of trading Eberle is that it has created a spot for Puljujarvi to emerge as a better option than Eberle has been in the last couple of years.

Getting a playing who shows good chemistry with McDavid and is producing into the lineup as well as a guy who's playing good 3rd line minutes for a player who was putting up the numbers Eberle did before he left is a win. Plus we got cap space

 

[nabob]

Even in a down year Eberle still managed 50 points. I'd take that everyday over whatever Strome has to offer (which is cap space and nothing). The Oilers gave up a valuable player and got dick in return. And if you have to retain that's not the worst thing in the world.

The Oilers really need to stop trading players at their absolutely worst value. I thought we were done with that garbage. Instead Eberle and Barzal are lighting it up on the Island and the Oilers are pushing the basement.

If Strome was your best return then don't make the trade. We're not in cap trouble this year.

So your solution is to keep playing players who don't produce in the hopes that they'll improve? You'd love our current team that isn't producing wins then, maybe we should keep Talbot in the bench and play LB every game in hopes he'll improve to increase his value.

 

[frag2]

Even in a down year Eberle still managed 50 points. I'd take that everyday over whatever Strome has to offer (which is cap space and nothing). The Oilers gave up a valuable player and got dick in return. And if you have to retain that's not the worst thing in the world.

The Oilers really need to stop trading players at their absolutely worst value. I thought we were done with that garbage. Instead Eberle and Barzal are lighting it up on the Island and the Oilers are pushing the basement.

If Strome was your best return then don't make the trade. We're not in cap trouble this year.

Honestly, while we do miss his streaky offence (and only against weak competition), even if Eberle was here, i doubt he would try hard. He was checked out.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

So your solution is to keep playing players who don't produce in the hopes that they'll improve? You'd love our current team that isn't producing wins then, maybe we should keep Talbot in the bench and play LB every game in hopes he'll improve to increase his value.

Eberle scored 50 points last year... that's not producing?

What does Strome do? You say he's not being put into a position to succeed but where do you slot a 30 point player?

 

[BlackDogg]

Honestly, while we do miss his streaky offence (and only against weak competition), even if Eberle was here, i doubt he would try hard. He was checked out.

He was basically offering the Justin Shultz defense for his bad play here. Not sure it would have improved but he was better than Strome.

 

[nabob]

Eberle scored 50 points last year... that's not producing?

What does Strome do? You say he's not being put into a position to succeed but where do you slot a 30 point player?

50 points on the 1st line RW at $6M
30 points playing W/C on the 3rd line at $2.5M

What's better value. I'll take the more versatile and better two way player + cap space.

Don't believe I ever said that he isn't being put in a position to succeed. He is succeeding in the position he has been put in. The same wouldn't have been able to have been said about Ebs. If he is playing all ofnesive minutes then he's a detriment to the team while on the ice.

Also keep in mind that assembling a hockey team isn't as simple as you seem to make it out to be. A team full of Eberle's from last season would get their asses handed to them by every other team in the league. Teams need balance.

 

[Del Preston]

Stars and Kings are both losing after the first.

 

[Del Preston]

Kings lost 4-2
Stars lost 5-2
Leafs lost 3-1

Good night of hockey.

 

[BlackDogg]

Leafs honeymoon is over and they've forgotten how to score.

 

[Del Preston]

Leafs honeymoon is over and they've forgotten how to score.

They're very upset with Babcock on the Leafs board.

 

[BlackDogg]

They're very upset with Babcock on the Leafs board.

Might have to go Like that.

 

[nabob]

Even in a down year Eberle still managed 50 points. I'd take that everyday over whatever Strome has to offer (which is cap space and nothing). The Oilers gave up a valuable player and got dick in return. And if you have to retain that's not the worst thing in the world.

The Oilers really need to stop trading players at their absolutely worst value. I thought we were done with that garbage. Instead Eberle and Barzal are lighting it up on the Island and the Oilers are pushing the basement.

If Strome was your best return then don't make the trade. We're not in cap trouble this year.

So since Strome is struggling I guess you'd be in favor of keeping him around until he returns to the form of a 50+ point player again...

 

[GodPucker]

So what is Matthews injury anyways?

What happened to Nylander and Marner and co? Thought they had like 5-6 60+ point players..

 

[RandomGuy79]

Rogers Arena in Vancouver is looking half full and tickets on stubhub for $13 for tonight.

 

[Del Preston]

So what is Matthews injury anyways?

What happened to Nylander and Marner and co? Thought they had like 5-6 60+ point players..

Marleau has 18 points in 34 games (on pace for 43) while making $6.25M.

 

[Zaddy]

50 points on the 1st line RW at $6M
30 points playing W/C on the 3rd line at $2.5M

What's better value. I'll take the more versatile and better two way player + cap space.

Don't believe I ever said that he isn't being put in a position to succeed. He is succeeding in the position he has been put in. The same wouldn't have been able to have been said about Ebs. If he is playing all ofnesive minutes then he's a detriment to the team while on the ice.

Also keep in mind that assembling a hockey team isn't as simple as you seem to make it out to be. A team full of Eberle's from last season would get their asses handed to them by every other team in the league. Teams need balance.

By 'versatile' you mean 'doesn't excel in any one area' ? I also think Ryan Strome's two-way acumen is way overrated in here too. I don't remember who said it but one of the guys on twitter (Friedman?) said that people these days tend to give players the 'two-way' moniker to guys who are not very good at scoring and to an extent I agree with that. Definitely seems to be true with Strome anyhow (and it has been the case with RNH at times too).

 

[harpoon]

Nice OT winner by Gagner against the filthy cheating Sharks.

 

[GodPucker]

Sharks suck. Canucks are just "there"...Such a bandwagon fanbase.