2016 Draft Discussion IV

[BertCorbeau]

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VIDEO Reference of prospects (thanks Seer)

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1999425

Auston Matthews, here we come (errrr, playoffs?)



Here is our current draft picks

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Future/MapleLeafs.htm

Round 1
Leafs
Pens* contingent on Pens making playoffs

Round 2
Leafs

Round 3
Leafs
Devils (via Pitt)

Round 4
Leafs

Round 5
Leafs
Ducks

Round 6
Leafs
Blues

Round 7
Leafs
Lightning* If Ashton plays 15 games for Lightning

Top prospects per ISS as of January 2016

1 MATTHEWS, Auston C 9/17/1997 L 6.01.5 194 Zurich ZSC SuiA
2 PULJUJARVI, Jesse RW 5/7/1998 R 6.03 203 Karpat FinE
3 TKACHUK, Matthew LW 12/11/1997 L 6.01.25 195 London OHL
4 LAINE, Patrik RW 4/19/1998 R 6.04 209 Tappara FinE
5 CHYCHRUN, Jakob LD 3/31/1998 L 6.02 215 Sarnia OHL
6 NYLANDER, Alexander C 3/2/1998 R 6.00.5 179 Mississauga OHL
7 MCLEOD, Michael C 2/3/1998 R 6.02.25 188 Mississauga OHL
8 JONES, Max LW 2/17/1998 L 6.03 205 London OHL
9 JOST, Tyson C 3/14/1998 L 5.11 191 Penticton BCHL
10 SERGACHEV, Mikhail RD 6/25/1998 L 6.02.5 206 Windsor OHL
11 RUBTSOV, German C 6/27/1998 L 6.02 176 Russia MHL 98 RusJr
12 GAUTHIER, Julien RW 10/15/1997 R 6.03.5 225 Val-d'Or QMJHL
13 BROWN, Logan C 3/5/1998 L 6.06 222 Windsor OHL
14 JUOLEVI, Olli LD 5/5/1998 L 6.02.5 179 London OHL
15 BELLOWS, Kieffer LW 6/10/1998 L 6.00 196 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
16 FABBRO, Dante RD 6/20/1998 R 6.00.25 189 Penticton BCHL
17 KELLER, Clayton C 7/29/1998 L 5.09.5 168 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
18 DUBOIS, Pierre-Luc LW 6/24/1998 L 6.02.5 202 Cape Breton QMJHL
19 BENSON, Tyler LW 3/15/1998 L 5.11.75 201 Vancouver WHL
20 MCAVOY, Charles RD 12/21/1997 R 6.00.25 208 Boston Univ. H.E.
21 BEAN, Jake LD 6/9/1998 L 5.11.75 173 Calgary WHL
22 KRYS, Chad LD 4/10/1998 L 5.11 185 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
23 BASTIAN, Nathan C 12/6/1997 R 6.03.75 208 Mississauga OHL
24 STEEL, Sam C 2/3/1998 L 5.11 177 Regina WHL
25 KNIERIM, William RW 1/22/1998 R 6.02.5 207 Dubuque USHL
26 KUNIN, Luke RW 12/4/1997 R 5.11.75 193 Wisconsin BigTen
27 ASPLUND, Rasmus C 12/3/1997 L 5.10.5 176 Farjestad SweJE
28 TUFTE, Riley LW 4/10/1998 L 6.04.75 205 Blaine MN-HS
29 MATTSON, Mitchell C 1/2/1998 L 6.04 186 Grand Rapids MN-HS
30 RADDYSH, Taylor RW 2/18/1998 R 6.01.75 203 Erie OHL

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-iss-top-30-for-january/

Craig's List January 2016

Rank|Player|Team|Pos|Height|Weight|Games|Goals|Assists
2|Jesse Puljujärvi|Karpat (SM-Liiga)|RW|6'3 ½|203|32|5|13
2|*Patrik Laine|Tappara (SM-Liiga)|RW|6'4|206|24|8|16
4|*Matthew Tkachuk|London (OHL)|LW|6'1|195|30|15|61
5|*Alexander Nylander|Mississuaga (OHL)|LW/RW|6'0 ½|179|34|22|50
6|*Olli Juolevi|London (OHL)|D|6'2 ½|179|28|4|23
7|*Jakob Chychrun|Sarnia (OHL)|D|6'2|215|36|5|24
8|*Dante Fabbro|Penticton (BCHL)|D|6'0|189|28|9|44
9|*Mikhail Sergachyov|Windsor (OHL)|D|6'2 ½|206|41|12|28
10|*Pierre-Luc Dubois|C. Breton (QMJHL)|LW|6'2 ½|202|41|26|61
11|*Clayton Keller|USA NTDP (USHL)|C|5'9 ½|168|32|21|63
12|*Tyson Jost|Penticton (BCHL)|C|5'11|191|34|26|67
13|*German Rubtsov|Russia U-18 (MHL)|C|6'2|176|18|9|20
14|*Kieffer Bellows|USA NTDP (USHL)|LW|6'0|196|33|26|44
15|*Julien Gauthier|Val d'Or (QMJHL)|RW|6'3 ½|225|30|29|37
16|*Samuel Girard|Shawinigan (QMJHL)|D|5'9 ½|160|41|6|48
17|*Michael McLeod|Mississuaga (OHL)|C|6'2|188|39|17|45
18|*Dillon Dube|Kelowna (WHL)|LW|5'10*|180|35|18|41
19|*Jake Bean|Calgary (WHL)|D|6'0|173|42|15|39
20|*Vitali Abramov|Gatineau (QMJHL)|LW/RW|5'9|172|42|26|62
21|*Alex DeBrincat|Erie (OHL)|C/RW|5'7|163|33|34|60
22|*Charlie McAvoy|Boston U (NCAA)|D|6'0*|208|19|1|11
23|*Mitchell Mattson|Grand Rapids|C|6'4|186|16|13|32
24|Logan Stanley|Windsor (OHL)|D|6'7|220|39|3|12
25|*Riley Tufte|Blaine (USHSW)|LW|6'5|205|14|25|44
26|*Tyler Benson|Vancouver (WHL)|LW|6'0|201|28|8|26
27|*Will Bitten|*Flint (OHL)|C/RW|5'10|167|39|20|43
28|*Max Jones|London (OHL)|LW|6'3|205|34|17|34
29|*Taylor Raddysh|Erie (OHL)|RW|6'2|203|40|15|49
30|*Brett Howden|Moose Jaw (WHL)|C|6'2|193|38|17|36

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1161253

New Lottery Rules for 2016

NHL announces changes to Draft Lottery format
Under phase-in plan, odds will be adjusted to reflect increasing competitive balance in 2015; Lottery will be expanded to determine first three selections in 2016

2016 NHL Draft Lottery

Beginning in 2016, the Draft Lottery will be utilized to assign the top three drafting slots in the NHL Draft, an expansion over previous years when the Draft Lottery was used to determine the winner of the first overall selection only.

Three draws will be held: the 1st Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting first overall, the 2nd Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting second overall and the 3rd Lottery draw will determine the club selecting third overall.

As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

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[WTFMAN99]

I mean, if you roll Nylander/Brown/Kadri/Gauthier down the middle, you have such a great mix of talent in the middle of the ice.

Only a couple things that concern me

Is Nylander a #1 C? If yes okay...

L.Brown - definitely welcome size in the top 6, especially in the middle

I don't see Kadri as a 3C

Gauthier 4C - pretty safe.

We have a couple of dark horses that could be our 3C in the future - Toninato and Joshua (have size, skill etc, does it translate to the NHL?...eh probably not)

Bozak seems to be well liked...do we keep him (his game probably fits in more with a typical 3C then Kadri's)

Could we move Kadri and other assets to land a 2nd pairing right handed defenseman?

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Only a couple things that concern me

Is Nylander a #1 C? If yes okay...

L.Brown - definitely welcome size in the top 6, especially in the middle

I don't see Kadri as a 3C

Gauthier 4C - pretty safe.

We have a couple of dark horses that could be our 3C in the future - Toninato and Joshua (have size, skill etc, does it translate to the NHL?...eh probably not)

Bozak seems to be well liked...do we keep him (his game probably fits in more with a typical 3C then Kadri's)

Could we move Kadri and other assets to land a 2nd pairing right handed defenseman?

Naz should return a good 1st and a prospect. Love his game this year, but for the right price, I would be okay if we part with him.

I think if we stop looking at traditional roles, the 1st 3 lines SHOULD be competent in the offensive zone, which is why I have no problem playing him on line 3, or line 2, and letting Brown come along at his own pace.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Naz should return a good 1st and a prospect. Love his game this year, but for the right price, I would be okay if we part with him.

I think if we stop looking at traditional roles, the 1st 3 lines SHOULD be competent in the offensive zone, which is why I have no problem playing him on line 3, or line 2, and letting Brown come along at his own pace.

Fair enough.

Do you think Nylander has 1st line centre upside though? I always felt he would be a really high end #2 centre but his production to date has been pretty top notch which makes me unsure on how to project him.

 

[champs*]

Only a couple things that concern me

Is Nylander a #1 C? If yes okay...

L.Brown - definitely welcome size in the top 6, especially in the middle

I don't see Kadri as a 3C

Gauthier 4C - pretty safe.

We have a couple of dark horses that could be our 3C in the future - Toninato and Joshua (have size, skill etc, does it translate to the NHL?...eh probably not)

Bozak seems to be well liked...do we keep him (his game probably fits in more with a typical 3C then Kadri's)

Could we move Kadri and other assets to land a 2nd pairing right handed defenseman?

This is why it is important to keep willie with the marlies and develop him into a #1 center that is defensively responsible. Make all the mistake down with the marlies and come up to the leafs!

 

[gabeliscious]

Only a couple things that concern me

Is Nylander a #1 C? If yes okay...

L.Brown - definitely welcome size in the top 6, especially in the middle

I don't see Kadri as a 3C

Gauthier 4C - pretty safe.

We have a couple of dark horses that could be our 3C in the future - Toninato and Joshua (have size, skill etc, does it translate to the NHL?...eh probably not)

Bozak seems to be well liked...do we keep him (his game probably fits in more with a typical 3C then Kadri's)

Could we move Kadri and other assets to land a 2nd pairing right handed defenseman?

cant we switch brown and kadri? imo kadri has more offensive upside and i dont think that he has shown everything he has to show. i think he is in the same boat as rielly in that babs is trying to teach them proper hockey. he knows there is offense there.

brown has size but how much offense is actually there. imo he is somewhere beteeen goat and kadri. size is nice if given a choice but its not like kadri has an issue at his size. nylander is around kadris size and probably even more muscle when things are said and done.

nylander-kadri-brown-goat

 

[champs*]

Brown does not even average a point per game in the OHL, I think the GOAT has a higher PPG average .... i pass on logan brown in the first round.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Brown does not even average a point per game in the OHL, I think the GOAT has a higher PPG average .... i pass on logan brown in the first round.

35 pts in 33GP

 

[ErnieLeafs]

35 pts in 33GP

He also missed time with a suspension, WJC camp, etc.

Stat watching isn't a great way to evaluate kids.

 

[champs*]

He also missed time with a suspension, WJC camp, etc.

Stat watching isn't a great way to evaluate kids.

I have watched him play many a time, I know his dad also,

 

[ErnieLeafs]

I have watched him play many a time, I know his dad also,

Oh, nice. Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion. We disagree, but that's what a discussion forum is all about.

 

[champs*]

Oh, nice. Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion. We disagree, but that's what a discussion forum is all about.

for sure, its all good

 

[Stephen]

Brown does not even average a point per game in the OHL, I think the GOAT has a higher PPG average .... i pass on logan brown in the first round.

Logan Brown would be a Pittsburgh pick type candidate.

 

[champs*]

Logan Brown would be a Pittsburgh pick type candidate.

I would like to get a d-man with that pick, Logan maybe available with our first 2nd round pick. I still want to take a goalie in the 2nd or 3rd round also.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

I have a hard time believing he makes it to the 2nd round, but we've seen fallers in the past. He's a steal in rd.2

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I like Logan Brown however I think Clayton Keller is someone we should consider if there is a pens pick too. I don't know why people can't think Brown isn't a good pick, he's a hard working dude. Unless we follow the skill motto and go for a guy like debrincat who's still impressing me.

A player who kind of reminds me of JVR is Bellows but with a bit more aggression IMO.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I have a hard time believing he makes it to the 2nd round, but we've seen fallers in the past. He's a steal in rd.2

I dont see him going past the 20th pick at all tbh..a player who i think will be falling like rattie did is likely Benson..

 

[Visnovsky]

I see Larkin in Bellows. They have about similar projection and development curve right up until the draft - he's a guy that I'd like to get with a later first round pick, if he's still there.

Chychrun is the guy I want the most, if we're not counting Matthews. Tkachuk would be also a great choice, if Chychrun is not available at our pick. Not a fan of picking up either one of the finns, since I want them to succeed in their hockey careers.

 

[LV*]

I would like to get a d-man with that pick, Logan maybe available with our first 2nd round pick. I still want to take a goalie in the 2nd or 3rd round also.

I'd definitely be looking at Jake Bean. Seems all our D prospects are LHD.

 

[Visnovsky]

I'd definitely be looking at Jake Bean. Seems all our D prospects are LHD.

I believe Bean is also a LHD.

 

[67Cup]

He also missed time with a suspension, WJC camp, etc.

Stat watching isn't a great way to evaluate kids.

Which WJC camp did Brown attend? I know he is a dual citizen but he didn't attend the in season Team Canada camp and I didn't think he attended Team USA either. But maybe I am wrong on that.

 

[BIitz]

I believe Bean is also a LHD.

He is. I'd love Bean, kid has a real dangerous offensive package. 2nd best draft eligible WHL skater IMO.

 

[horner]

We are going to come out of this draft with a crazy prospect pole

1. Mathews or Laine
15. Max Jones or Bellows
31. Carter Hart
42. Mascherin - additional pk at TD
50. Stanley. - additional pk at TD
61. Bastien
75. Cliff Pu

We could have in our lineup in two yrs.

Mathews
Marner
Nylander
Timishov
Kap
Johnson
Dermot
Jones Max
Brown
Nielson
And so on

 

[LV*]

I believe Bean is also a LHD.

Yea he is thats why I said it because he'd add to our LHDs lol

 

[SEER]

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VIDEO Reference of prospects (thanks Seer)

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1999425

Auston Matthews, here we come (errrr, playoffs?) ..........

Thanks so much, Bert... Appreciated...

I'm one of the few that would pick Nylander over Matthews, though... I just have a strange feeling about Matthews..