Blue Jays GDT: (2015 v35) Next: @ NYY| Sat, Sept 12| 1pm ET/10am PT | Estrada vs Pineda

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[Eyedea]

Perfect game is a perfect game. These guys are all MLB players...

Really? I thought they were football players.

Never was I taking away their accomplishments. I'm just saying how much luck is involved and how many great pitchers never managed to throw a perfect game or no hitter.

Then guys like Brandon Barnes who have hit for the cycle

Jeff Frye

 

[Loosie]

I'll say this again in a new thread.

Jays gave up runs? Yankees closing the gap?

 

[TF97]

Not sure if I would've left Cecil in

 

[Bomber0104]

I'd get Pompey in the game.

 

[TF97]

Danny Boy breaks up the perfect game

 

[GoodKiwi]

Not sure if I would've left Cecil in

Why not?

 

[Acoustic]

Really? I thought they were football players.

Never was I taking away their accomplishments. I'm just saying how much luck is involved and how many great pitchers never managed to throw a perfect game or no hitter.



Jeff Frye

Yeah sure, but it's no less an accomplishment, just catching that lightning that one night.

 

[no13matssundin]

great googamooga, this jays team is good!

 

[calcal798]

Not sure if I would've left Cecil in

He had 1 Pitch in the 6th?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Not sure if I would've left Cecil in

How dare you question Gibby.

I think he'll be fine. He's been dynamite lately.

 

[TF97]

Why not?

The lead is back up to 6 and we have a double header tomorrow. He only had to throw one pitch to end the 6th so he'd still be fresh for tomorrow.

 

[The Nemesis]

because my post didn't go up until after the close (the downside of being a mod )

Do you really think a good game plan is to strike out 27 batters and getting a ground ball or fly ball out is just mere luck?

I don't think that's what he's saying at all. But the surest way to get an out is via strikeout. Any ball hit into play has a chance to land for a hit. So the more times the ball gets hit into play, the greater the chance that at least one of them will drop fair and break up the no-hitter/perfect game. So to get as far as Lewis has without a hit and while only finishing off 2 batters on his own, he's walking an ever more dangerous tightrope.

You want to make it through a lot of innings? then yeah you probably don't want to be a heavy, heavy strikeout pitcher because you're going to wear down early. But you want to get a no-hitter? You're better off being a strong strikeout guy in that case because you want to leave as little as possible to your defence. Not because the D might suck, but because every time a ball is put in play it's a chance for the no-hit bid to end. If you were somehow able to gameplan and concretely and absolutely control for how the outs are going to be recorded, then yes the best possible outcome would indeed be 27 strikeouts.

I would be interested in seeing what the history of no-hitters/perfect games is in terms of the fewest strikeouts recorded in the process.

 

[Acoustic]

Man these Yankees really have an eye for the ball.

 

[Swervin81]

I'd get Pompey in the game.

Gibbons will probably put Carrera in before he even notices Pompey. Because reasons.

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Clyde Wright had 1 K in a 1970 no-hitter. Bob Keegan had 1 K in a 1957 no-hitter.

 

[Canada4Gold]

He had 1 Pitch in the 6th?

we're up 6 now though, save him for tomorrow.

Put Hendriks in, if he doesn't give up any runs follow him in the 8th with Schultz or Tepera. If any of them give up runs then you go Lowe.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Man these Yankees really have an eye for the ball.

They have a few that are very tough to strike out. Gardner and Bird are a couple that stick out to me.

 

[LeeIs]

I can't believe how useful Cecil has become. I guess that shows how putting pitchers in their place makes a huge difference.

 

[Canada4Gold]

because my post didn't go up until after the close (the downside of being a mod )

downside? That's an upside. Better than making a big long post, going to hit submit, and the thread is closed and it's all gone.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I don't think that's what he's saying at all. But the surest way to get an out is via strikeout. Any ball hit into play has a chance to land for a hit. So the more times the ball gets hit into play, the greater the chance that at least one of them will drop fair and break up the no-hitter/perfect game. So to get as far as Lewis has without a hit and while only finishing off 2 batters on his own, he's walking an ever more dangerous tightrope.

You want to make it through a lot of innings? then yeah you probably don't want to be a heavy, heavy strikeout pitcher because you're going to wear down early. But you want to get a no-hitter? You're better off being a strong strikeout guy in that case because you want to leave as little as possible to your defence. Not because the D might suck, but because every time a ball is put in play it's a chance for the no-hit bid to end. If you were somehow able to gameplan and concretely and absolutely control for how the outs are going to be recorded, then yes the best possible outcome would indeed be 27 strikeouts.

I would be interested in seeing what the history of no-hitters/perfect games is in terms of the fewest strikeouts recorded in the process.

Yes, exactly. Thought it went without saying, but thanks. Typed more than I would ever feel like.

Some people here look for an opportunity to attack you for anything. Makes them feel either like a 'big man' or smart, I guess. Heh...

 

[Acoustic]

because my post didn't go up until after the close (the downside of being a mod )



I don't think that's what he's saying at all. But the surest way to get an out is via strikeout. Any ball hit into play has a chance to land for a hit. So the more times the ball gets hit into play, the greater the chance that at least one of them will drop fair and break up the no-hitter/perfect game. So to get as far as Lewis has without a hit and while only finishing off 2 batters on his own, he's walking an ever more dangerous tightrope.

You want to make it through a lot of innings? then yeah you probably don't want to be a heavy, heavy strikeout pitcher because you're going to wear down early. But you want to get a no-hitter? You're better off being a strong strikeout guy in that case because you want to leave as little as possible to your defence. Not because the D might suck, but because every time a ball is put in play it's a chance for the no-hit bid to end.

I would be interested in seeing what the history of no-hitters/perfect games is in terms of the fewest strikeouts recorded in the process.

Yeah, obviously, but that's not a game plan for a starting pitcher. You can pitch to contact, that's a legit strategy. I'd rather have a guy who can get ground ball outs by locating pitches and work 7-8 innings than a power pitcher who gets 7 ks through 5 and is out of the game. And no, I don't mean Price tonight.

 

[GoodKiwi]

They have a few that are very tough to strike out. Gardner and Bird are a couple that stick out to me.

Yeah, NYY have been very smart at the plate tonight.

EDIT: Except ARod.

 

[Acoustic]

Yes, exactly. Thought it went without saying, but thanks. Typed more than I would ever feel like.

You implied ground ball and fly ball outs were lucky.

See ya Arod!

 

[Longshot]

I can't believe how useful Cecil has become. I guess that shows how putting pitchers in their place makes a huge difference.

He was always useful.

I don't even think he was as bad as everybody thinks he was early in the season. Had some bad luck and the bullpen was an unsettled train wreck early in the year. Hard for anybody to excel in that atmosphere (Osuna excluded...).