Prospect Info: 2015 NHL Draft - Pick #41 - Ryan Gropp

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Name: Ryan Gropp
Position: LW
Nationality: Canadian

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 190
Team: Seattle
League: WHL

Scouting report(s):

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Analysis: A big-bodied player at 6'3, Ryan Gropp is making a splash in the WHL and he is quickly becoming a fan-favorite with the Seattle Thunderbirds.

A potential elite-level power forward, he has all of the technical tools, as well as the natural size that lets him bulldoze his way to the front of the net, to be a constantly dangerous scoring threat. He is a tremendous blend of work ethic and tenacity (digging in deep; never giving up on the play), hockey-IQ (creative and responsible mind for the game), and skill (skating, hands, patience, and vision).

He has a presence around the net that makes it difficult for defenders not to chase or focus on him; what this does is it also creates space for his linemates, such as his current centerman, Mathew Barzal, and completes his package as a dangerous, hard-to-contain offensive winger.

When you watch the Thunderbirds play, it isn't hard to find Gropp on the ice; this isn't simply a result of his size, skating and puck skills, alone, but he makes an impact as soon as he jumps over the boards for his shift. You notice a change in the game's pace because, through complimenting his linemates like a perfectly-fitting puzzle piece, he creates innumerable scoring chances. Gropp doesn't shy away from physical play, either, and uses his rangy 6'3 frame to his advantage along the boards and in the corners. He also has a very accurate shot.

In The Past: Gropp was born in Kamloops, BC, and played for the Penticton Vees of the BCHL before migrating to the Western Hockey League of the CHL. He was able to play against some of Western Canada's best, starting his conditioning and 'elite'-level training at a young age.

In The Future: In due time, after at least two more years in the minors and, perhaps, a year of American Hockey League play, Ryan Gropp's incredibly high ceiling and upside will show through. He will deliver the team that drafts him an elite, dependable top-6 power forward that will become a valuable team asset for a very long time.

Who He Plays Like: This may be quite the extravagant comparison, but I think he plays a lot like New York Rangers' forward Rick Nash, in the sense that he's very aggressive on the forecheck and difficult to play against due to his complete package.

Where Will He Be Drafted? He should be a late first-round choice. He will be pushed down in the rankings due to the fact that there are flashier players in this year's draft, but he still has a package that will make him far more enticing to teams than many of the other players available in the late-first/early-second range.
Profile from: Curtis Joe - updated Nov. 11th

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Growing up in Kamloops, Gropp was a big Blazers fan and his family had season tickets, giving him a taste of WHL hockey early on. He also liked the Calgary Flames and rooting for former Blazer Jarome Iginla. While he enjoyed watching Iginla play, he said that he models his game after a different NHL player.

"For me right now it's Jamie Benn of the Dallas Stars," he said. "I think he's a big body who can shoot the puck and is kind of a deceptive skater. I try to model my game after him and take little bits of his game. I'm still working to become a physical force like he is."

Benn is a good comparison for Gropp.

Both stand at 6 feet 2 and right now Benn has about 17 pounds on Gropp, but that's something that could change with age and conditioning. Benn was a star with the Kelowna Rockets when he was younger before being selected with the 129th pick of the NHL Draft in 2007.

Like Benn and most prospects, Gropp has had a taste of playing for his country as he's come up the hockey ranks, most recently in the U18 World Championships. He said the dream of playing for Canada in the World Junior Championships is a big one but he doesn't want to get too far ahead of himself.

Statistics:

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 2011-12	Penticton Vees	BCHL	2	1	0	1	0	 					
2012-13	Penticton Vees	BCHL	50	12	19	31	26	 	15	4	5	9	4
2013-14	Penticton Vees	BCHL	10	3	5	8	2	 	--	--	--	--	--
2013-14	Seattle Thunderbirds	WHL	59	18	24	42	22	-5	9	1	3	4	0
2014-15	Seattle Thunderbirds	WHL	67	30	28	58	44	9	6	1	7	8	8
 
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Bluenote13

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Yeah this is not a horrible pick, but some of the names still on the board really make me wonder. 3 really good Centers taken right after our pick, and if I were a gambler I would have taken Greenway before Gropp.
 

Ghost of jas

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Big guy that can skate. Very intriguing.

I like the writeup. One of the criticisms is that he may have been "made" by Barzal. Good thing the Rangers three playmaking centers. Dave Reid called him a "goal scorer".
 

mike14

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DraftBuzz had him #39 saying: dependability that shows he earns his points...not showy but his rink awareness and success are noticeable...awkward skating but effective...underlying playmaking ability...can be relied on to lug the puck up ice

FC had him at #54: hard skating, hard shooting...can take over a game for stretches...powerful stride lets him get jump on defenders...puck skills and on-ice demenour are strong...heavy wrist shot that is quick and accurate...decent hitting game...good crease presence
 

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Considering who was on the boards, I really do not like this pick.
 

Edge

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There are certainly guys who could be considered more advanced prospects at this point, but I'm okay with this selection.

Gropp is a bigger player who has really good hands. With that said, I found myself wanting more from him on a consistent basis. He's clearly got the skills, but there were times I didn't feel the sum was the total of the all the parts.
 

offdacrossbar

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must have really liked him.

taken too early imo.

he does have some nice skills though and was a dominant player for seattle.

jamie ben comparison about right. hes a load

if he develops, could be a very nice power forward type player.
 

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must have really liked him.

taken too early imo.

he does have some nice skills though and was a dominant player for seattle.

jamie ben comparison about right. hes a load

if he develops, could be a very nice power forward type player.

Gropp is all about the projection.

If you like the upside, it's a good value pick. If you think he's closer to his ceiling, it's a bit of a reach.

Looking at what he's done the past two season, Gropp is also the type who looks significantly better as a pro than a junior.
 

dshea19

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I also remember how many people were not crazy about the Stepan pick in the second round and how many thought it was a reach. Always a crap shoot. Some work out, some don't. We have to remember that the vast majority of these players being picked will never play a single game in the NHL.
 

Bluenote13

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I also remember how many people were not crazy about the Stepan pick in the second round and how many thought it was a reach. Always a crap shoot. Some work out, some don't. We have to remember that the vast majority of these players being picked will never play a single game in the NHL.

Stepan was a babayface who figured to be a project, Gropp is the total opposite.

They picked this guy cause he seems closer to the pro game, IMO.
 

dshea19

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I have no problem with the pick at all. The only one I wince about is McIlrath over Tarasneko. That hurts. However, since the word was he was not coming to the NHL, you can't blame them. Still hurts, though.
 

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I also remember how many people were not crazy about the Stepan pick in the second round and how many thought it was a reach. Always a crap shoot. Some work out, some don't. We have to remember that the vast majority of these players being picked will never play a single game in the NHL.

I liked the Stepan pick, but I get where a lot of people were coming from.

They thought he was going to fall into the same category as Roche and Olver, players they saw as being similarly sized and similarly skilled.

Convincing them otherwise was rather difficult at the time.
 

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Stepan was a babayface who figured to be a project, Gropp is the total opposite.

They picked this guy cause he seems closer to the pro game, IMO.

I think he definitely plays a pro-style game and that makes him projectable. He's a guy who has a very good chance of playing solid pro hockey in 15 months.

I would say the question is how a team projects his offense to develop. There a lot of good offensive instincts and very good hands. But I can't say they've quite produced the results they are capable of producing - yet.
 

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Obvious "you can't teach size" pick is obvious. And not in a good way.
 

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