Greene was absolutely unrestricted. He did not have to sign an extension at this time. There was no restriction on who he could negotiate with for those UFA years, nor any penalty for teams to pay him more (like RFA compensation). He couldn't negotiate with other teams right now, but he also didn't need to sign a contract right now. Because he didn't use his leverage to the full extent doesn't mean that he didn't have the leverage. He could negotiate with as many teams as he wanted, even outside the NHL should he chose, in 10 months time.
Guys, who cares?
Is the point of all this to decied whether we can pillory GMBM for the Orpik deal? I think everyone--including Greene, his agent and the Devils-- probably went into negotiations knowing the Orpik contract was not in play. Everyone in hockey knows it's an overpayment, at least on paper. Whether we get value when the puck drops is the only question.
Subban and the Canadiens. Should be interesting.
Greene wasn't unrestricted. At the time he negotiated the extension, he could only negotiate with one team. That leverage from the years being UFA mostly didn't exist yet. It existed only if he waited the 10 months.
I'd think he was able to get more than an actual RFA, but certainly not what he could have gotten with multiple bidders (not to mention the increased salary cap if he'd waited).
The point of all this is to pass the next two months.
Its seeming like the bridge deals aren't exactly working for teams...
if i was a player i'd want to make up for "lost" money. i don't think they're a good idea for players of subbans caliber.
We're just going around in circles at this point.
He couldn't negotiate with other teams in 2014, but he didn't need to sign a contract in 2014, either. Just because he opted not to make the most of his leverage doesn't mean that his position was notably weaker. New Jersey had very little leverage, basically summing down to them assuming additional risk if Greene should suffer a serious injury this season. Otherwise their negotiating position is the same now as it would be on June 30th of next year.
Subban and the Canadiens. Should be interesting.
I wouldn't do it, but I also wouln't "" a deal with Nyquist coming back.
MORE Euro wingers!!
He'd easily be the 2nd best goalscorer on this team. He was going goal-for-goal with Ovechkin for a while last year.
Like I said, still wouldn't do the deal. Just that a 24 year old goal scorer on an ELC who was on a 40 goal pace in the NHL is nothing to scoff at.
"For a while" and "Was" kinda stick out.
Kinda hard to be on a 40-goal pace during the off-season.
Think of it this way, Nyquist is a more proven Kuznetsov.
He'd easily be the 2nd best goalscorer on this team. He was going goal-for-goal with Ovechkin for a while last year.
Like I said, still wouldn't do the deal. Just that a 24 year old goal scorer on an ELC who was on a 40 goal pace in the NHL is nothing to scoff at.
Nyquist, kindl, Anderson for Carlson, and wilson