2014-2015 General Wild Discussion Thread V

[gphr513]

Probably but a whole lot less certain than 3 days ago.

Meh, it would take a lot of improbable results for BC to miss. I think it's about a 95% chance that they're in.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Only way I see Darcy playing any games the rest of the regular season is if we have clinched a playoff spot. It's Dubnyk's net until then.

Eh, I don't really buy the wearing down aspect people always seem to be worried about with goaltenders.

These are professional athletes that spend a majority of the time on the ice not doing much, especially on the Wild (except for last night of course lol). Over the course of the season, he still isn't among the league leaders in minutes played, despite starting 27 games in a row.

I do think he needs to get a rest in here eventually, but with the spacing of these next few games, it allows him to play and remain relatively rested.

I don't know. I'll remain cautiously optimistic for now, I guess. On the other hand though, we have 3 B2B left and we're playing the best teams in the league down the stretch here so odds are we'll get outshot quite a bit in these last 13 games I would think.

Plus even if we make the playoffs we'll be playing one of those teams that we'll likely have a hard time keeping out of our zone as well as we have lately against, shall we just say "lesser" competition.

Our remaining schedule:
3/17 @Nashville
3/19 Washington
3/21 St. Louis
3/23 @Toronto
3/24 @NY Islanders
3/27 Calgary
3/28 L.A.
4/2 NY Rangers
4/4 Detroit
4/6 Winnipeg
4/7 @Chicago
4/9 @Nashville
4/11 @St. Louis (if playoff spot clinched)

Kuemper plays the bolded games. Give him the easier games of the back-to-backs and if all goes well and the Wild clinch see how he does in St. Louis. Is that too much to ask?

 

[BurnsyMN]

Our remaining schedule:
3/17 @Nashville
3/19 Washington
3/21 St. Louis
3/23 @Toronto
3/24 @NY Islanders
3/27 Calgary
3/28 L.A.
4/2 NY Rangers
4/4 Detroit
4/6 Winnipeg
4/7 @Chicago
4/9 @Nashville
4/11 @St. Louis (if playoff spot clinched)

Kuemper plays the bolded games. Give him the easier games of the back-to-backs and if all goes well and the Wild clinch see how he does in St. Louis. Is that too much to ask?

There are two days off before the LA/Calgary back to back and 4 days off after it. Dubnyk plays them both. Bank on it. I bet he plays every game until a playoff spot is clinched.

 

[Digitalbooya]

There are two days off before the LA/Calgary back to back and 4 days off after it. Dubnyk plays them both. Bank on it. I bet he plays every game until a playoff spot is clinched.

I could see that since both games are home. As for playing every game until we clinch I could see that happening cause Yeo could not give a **** when it comes to wear and tear. Hasn't him riding goalies until they break been a trend? Backstrom, then Harding (more MS related), then Kuemper and now Dubnyk?

 

[Minny Lakes]

Dubnyk is playing every game until we clinch, back to backs too. Dubnyk has stole points in every b2b he's played in so far (Carolina and St Louis wins and the WPG OTL in February ).
He's got plenty of time to rest between games.

Those B2B games we had no business getting any points wtih Backstrom or Kuemper in net. Instead we got 5 points thanks to good coaching decisions by Yeo and great goaltending by Dubynk.

 

[MuckOG]

I could see that since both games are home. As for playing every game until we clinch I could see that happening cause Yeo could not give a **** when it comes to wear and tear. Hasn't him riding goalies until they break been a trend? Backstrom, then Harding (more MS related), then Kuemper and now Dubnyk?

Compare Dubnyk's TOI with other NHL goalies......he's nowhere near the top. His season basically began in mid-January. He's fine.

 

[Spurgeon]

I could see that since both games are home. As for playing every game until we clinch I could see that happening cause Yeo could not give a **** when it comes to wear and tear. Hasn't him riding goalies until they break been a trend? Backstrom, then Harding (more MS related), then Kuemper and now Dubnyk?

He hasn't broke goalies, the goalies have broke themselves.

Harding breaks his bones.

Kuemper breaks his confidence.

Backstrom breaks from old age.

Dubnyk is in his prime and can handle it. He should get maybe 1 or 2 games off, but we need to clinch. Yeo is making the right move, if he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know. I know one thing, he'll get plenty of rest in the off-season if we sit him in a few of these next 10 crucial games and lose.

 

[grN1g]

^ nailed it.

 

[TaLoN]

He hasn't broke goalies, the goalies have broke themselves.

Harding breaks his bones.

Kuemper breaks his confidence.

Backstrom breaks from old age.

Dubnyk is in his prime and can handle it. He should get maybe 1 or 2 games off, but we need to clinch. Yeo is making the right move, if he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know. I know one thing, he'll get plenty of rest in the off-season if we sit him in a few of these next 10 crucial games and lose.

Well said

 

[NHL1674]

Can you imagine what the score would have been against the Blues without Dubs in net? Yikes

 

[kfan22]

Can you imagine what the score would have been against the Blues without Dubs in net? Yikes

he also won the Carolina game IMO thats 4 valuable points, we lose both of those games and we are currently out of the playoff picture

 

[thestonedkoala]

Man, the Wild doctors apparently come off pretty ****** with the Boogaard situation. You have to kind of wonder with the criticism over the years with the medical staff...have we replaced these guys?

 

[Minnewildsota]

Man, the Wild doctors apparently come off pretty ****** with the Boogaard situation. You have to kind of wonder with the criticism over the years with the medical staff...have we replaced these guys?

Huh? Care to enlighten?

 

[Gaps]

Huh? Care to enlighten?

I'm not sure if anything new's turned up, but they didn't keep track of who had prescribed what to each player, which made it easier for Boogaard to get large quantities of pills.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/sports/hockey/derek-boogaard-a-brain-going-bad.html?_r=2&hp

 

[Digitalbooya]

He hasn't broke goalies, the goalies have broke themselves.

Harding breaks his bones.

Kuemper breaks his confidence.

Backstrom breaks from old age.

Dubnyk is in his prime and can handle it. He should get maybe 1 or 2 games off, but we need to clinch. Yeo is making the right move, if he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know. I know one thing, he'll get plenty of rest in the off-season if we sit him in a few of these next 10 crucial games and lose.

Harding - way to bring up something that happened in the offseason. I was talking about where he played basically all of the beginning of last year and then he couldn't give it a go after changing meds (Yeo not really to blame but he did play him a lot).

Kuemper - played most of the second half of last season and then got injured right before the playoffs and we had to rely on BRYZ.

Backstrom - I don't seem to remember Backstrom looking "old" when he played 42 of 48 games, only to get injured in the warmups of the playoffs....

That's exactly what I've been saying..... Back-to-backs wouldn't you want a fresh goaltender for both nights? I'd say the odds of winning both games increase with a fresh goaltender each night. There's nothing wrong with giving a Kuemper a start or two against the easier of back-to-backs.

"If he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know." Yeah right.... Players always think they can give it a go. Players always want to play.

 

[gphr513]

A win tonight would be a franchise record 8th consecutive road win.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Harding - way to bring up something that happened in the offseason. I was talking about where he played basically all of the beginning of last year and then he couldn't give it a go after changing meds (Yeo not really to blame but he did play him a lot).

Kuemper - played most of the second half of last season and then got injured right before the playoffs and we had to rely on BRYZ.

Backstrom - I don't seem to remember Backstrom looking "old" when he played 42 of 48 games, only to get injured in the warmups of the playoffs....

That's exactly what I've been saying..... Back-to-backs wouldn't you want a fresh goaltender for both nights? I'd say the odds of winning both games increase with a fresh goaltender each night. There's nothing wrong with giving a Kuemper a start or two against the easier of back-to-backs.

"If he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know." Yeah right.... Players always think they can give it a go. Players always want to play.

While players are often prideful, they also know that if they try to play while not at 100% that could be detrimental to the team.

 

[Spurgeon]

Harding - way to bring up something that happened in the offseason. I was talking about where he played basically all of the beginning of last year and then he couldn't give it a go after changing meds (Yeo not really to blame but he did play him a lot).

Kuemper - played most of the second half of last season and then got injured right before the playoffs and we had to rely on BRYZ.

Backstrom - I don't seem to remember Backstrom looking "old" when he played 42 of 48 games, only to get injured in the warmups of the playoffs....

That's exactly what I've been saying..... Back-to-backs wouldn't you want a fresh goaltender for both nights? I'd say the odds of winning both games increase with a fresh goaltender each night. There's nothing wrong with giving a Kuemper a start or two against the easier of back-to-backs.

"If he wants rest, he'll let Yeo know." Yeah right.... Players always think they can give it a go. Players always want to play.

Harding - Yeo isn't to blame at all. Playing as a professional goaltender with the onset of MS is practically impossible. If anything, Yeo should be praised for getting enough out of Harding as possible. He wasn't going to come back after changing his medication no matter what.

Kuemper - Kuemper started less games last year than Dubnyk already has for us this year. Kuemper didn't get hurt by being ran into the ground.

Backstrom - His "old age" doesn't help his durability.

As far as back-to-backs, I'd say we would have a better chance with Dubnyk in net on his 5th night in a row of starting than we do with Kuemper who hasn't played since January.

Dubnyk can get his rest after we clinch.

While players are often prideful, they also know that if they try to play while not at 100% that could be detrimental to the team.

ESPECIALLY Dubnyk, this guy is completely genuine. He knows how important his health is to this team and I would seriously doubt he would risk injury knowing that would pretty much mean the end of our season.

 

[Digitalbooya]

As far as back-to-backs, I'd say we would have a better chance with Dubnyk in net on his 5th night in a row of starting than we do with Kuemper who hasn't played since January.

And this is where I don't take you seriously at all. That last game Kuemper played in was where Dubnyk gave up 4 goals on 10 shots. Kuemper? 14 shots 14 saves. The fact that many consider Dubnyk to be the only determining factor in whether we win or not is purely ridiculous. Kuemper can hold his own if the team plays like they are now. Stop acting like if Kuemper plays it's gonna be a loss. You've forgotten last year and the beginning of this year.

 

[DeuceMN]

We definitely need to clinch.

And It seems like, given that we have a couple back to backs, wouldn't you want your backup to see a little rubber if for no other reason, just in case?

Cus when Backs went down and we had to put in a cold goalie, that was a big excuse of ours why the Hawks kicked our butt that year.

I mean, this is a sport where guys get hurt all the time.

 

[Gaps]

I mean, this is a sport where guys get hurt all the time.

Exactly. What if someone runs Dubnyk over and he gets concussed? It happens. There's no way anyone can predict something like that. If an unexpected injury like that occurs and Kuemper hasn't played in who knows how long, we're going to be in so much trouble. You need some kind of insurance.

 

[MuckOG]

Exactly. What if someone runs Dubnyk over and he gets concussed? It happens. There's no way anyone can predict something like that. If an unexpected injury like that occurs and Kuemper hasn't played in who knows how long, we're going to be in so much trouble. You need some kind of insurance.

If we were already comfortably in the playoffs, I would agree with you. Right now, we need to ice the best team every game to try and get points. Getting points is more important than getting Kuemper into a game.

Besides, if Dubnyk goes down, we're screwed anyways. Getting Kuemper one game isn't going to change that.

 

[kfan22]

Exactly. What if someone runs Dubnyk over and he gets concussed? It happens. There's no way anyone can predict something like that. If an unexpected injury like that occurs and Kuemper hasn't played in who knows how long, we're going to be in so much trouble. You need some kind of insurance.

What happens if someone elbows Parise to the head?? Should we sit him a couple games to try to avoid that happening???

People were screaming for Kuemper to play on the last 2 back to backs! Well guess what if Dubnyk doesnt play in those games they probably lose both, take those 4 points away and we are in 9th place today!!

 

[GinoLucia2217]

The one question I have is what has changed about the wild from Pre Dubnyk to Post Dubnyk

 

[thestonedkoala]

Huh? Care to enlighten?

They made it easy to get prescription pills that eventually led to his overdose. I also believe they over prescribed him.