Dr.Sens(e)
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In the interests of creating a clearer and easier process in re-signing both pending RFA’s and UFA’s, the following option is now available to teams to “auto resign” their players.
Simply reference the particular players salary from www.nhlnumbers.com/ and match the term and salary to what they will be making starting in the 08/09 season and for the length of their remaining NHL deal, and the player will automatically re-sign.
Two examples to better illustrate the auto-signing process:
Let’s say Marek Zidlicky was a pending UFA at the end of this season. The team looking to re-sign him would visit the site, see that he has two years remaining at $3.5 million and could simply match this length with a 2 year x $3.5 million extension and Zidlicky with automatically resign at these terms.
Another example. If Tomas Vokoun were a pending UFA in the HFNHL. His real NHL salary starting next year has him signed for three more years with an average cap hit of $5.7 million (the actual salary year by year is not relevant – the average is, which is the cap hit for the entire length of the deal he signed). The team would tender a 3 year x $5.7 million deal, and Vokoun would automatically re-sign.
WHEN THE PLAYER WILL WANT MORE
If the player in the NHL signed his current deal with an extreme degree of loyalty (i.e. Martin Brodeur) and the team looking to sign Brodeur does not command the same degree of loyalty (i.e. a rental), then the player will demand more.
If accepting what their NHL salary is would amount to taking either a pay cut or taking less than what qualifying offers will give them in the coming years, then they will reserve the right to reject the offer (and only in the rarest of occasions would they accept).
WHEN THE PLAYER WILL TAKE LESS
If the player in the NHL signed their deal as a UFA or pending UFA, but the same player is only going to be a RFA in the HFNHL, they will accept less.
If the player signed an extremely long deal (i.e. 6 to 7 years), given we can only offer a maximum of 4 years, the player may discount their HFNHL deal given they are not getting the same length of deal. This will depend on the age of the player however, as the extra years can sometimes be to the players disadvantage (lost UFA years) versus advantage (much older, and likely past the prime they are in at the beginning of the deal).
So while the fundamental rule means that Scott Gomez would actually ask for more money than Jarome Iginla to resign based on their respective NHL salaries (average cap hits), the fact Gomez signed a much longer term deal means he will take a little less, and unless the team commands the same loyalty the NHL Flames do to Iginla, Jarome will be looking for more if the home town discount is not in play.
As all of you will see, this will quite likely pose some immediate advantages and simplify offers for SOME of your players. For others, it gets a little tougher given their NHL deal. But what it does, is tie together NHL salaries to HFNHL salaries in a simple and easy to calculate way, while eliminating the time required to negotiate every deal (which reached an all-time high last year). It also gives a general basis to begin negotiations for many players, which will also simplify things. Obviously if you want to re-sign a player for 4 years and they are only signed for 2 in the NHL, the same formula won’t apply, but it will give a basis to the negotiations, as the team will know the auto-sign option is always there for them.
Teams should still follow the appropriate format with the additional item of Status (prospect, pending UFA or pending RFA):
Player Name
Status (prospect, RFA, UFA, pending RFA, pending UFA)
Age: XX (as noted in player vitals page)
Link to player vitals (www.nhlnumbers.com)
Current HFNHL contract (if applicable)
Current NHL contract (if applicable)
Offer: years x salary (i.e. 3 years x $500,000)
Notes: additional notes to his agent for consideration on the deal.
Example:
Wayne Primeau
Pending UFA
Age: 31
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=CGY
HFNHL Salary: $xxx,xxx
NHL Salary: 1,500,000
Offer: 2 years x $1,500,000
Notes: Matching the remaining term on his NHL deal with the Flames.
Hopefully this is clear. If there are any questions on this, feel free to post them here, so all teams can benefit from the ongoing Q&A.
Perhaps a moderator can sticky this post, so it is there going forward.
Simply reference the particular players salary from www.nhlnumbers.com/ and match the term and salary to what they will be making starting in the 08/09 season and for the length of their remaining NHL deal, and the player will automatically re-sign.
Two examples to better illustrate the auto-signing process:
Let’s say Marek Zidlicky was a pending UFA at the end of this season. The team looking to re-sign him would visit the site, see that he has two years remaining at $3.5 million and could simply match this length with a 2 year x $3.5 million extension and Zidlicky with automatically resign at these terms.
Another example. If Tomas Vokoun were a pending UFA in the HFNHL. His real NHL salary starting next year has him signed for three more years with an average cap hit of $5.7 million (the actual salary year by year is not relevant – the average is, which is the cap hit for the entire length of the deal he signed). The team would tender a 3 year x $5.7 million deal, and Vokoun would automatically re-sign.
WHEN THE PLAYER WILL WANT MORE
If the player in the NHL signed his current deal with an extreme degree of loyalty (i.e. Martin Brodeur) and the team looking to sign Brodeur does not command the same degree of loyalty (i.e. a rental), then the player will demand more.
If accepting what their NHL salary is would amount to taking either a pay cut or taking less than what qualifying offers will give them in the coming years, then they will reserve the right to reject the offer (and only in the rarest of occasions would they accept).
WHEN THE PLAYER WILL TAKE LESS
If the player in the NHL signed their deal as a UFA or pending UFA, but the same player is only going to be a RFA in the HFNHL, they will accept less.
If the player signed an extremely long deal (i.e. 6 to 7 years), given we can only offer a maximum of 4 years, the player may discount their HFNHL deal given they are not getting the same length of deal. This will depend on the age of the player however, as the extra years can sometimes be to the players disadvantage (lost UFA years) versus advantage (much older, and likely past the prime they are in at the beginning of the deal).
So while the fundamental rule means that Scott Gomez would actually ask for more money than Jarome Iginla to resign based on their respective NHL salaries (average cap hits), the fact Gomez signed a much longer term deal means he will take a little less, and unless the team commands the same loyalty the NHL Flames do to Iginla, Jarome will be looking for more if the home town discount is not in play.
As all of you will see, this will quite likely pose some immediate advantages and simplify offers for SOME of your players. For others, it gets a little tougher given their NHL deal. But what it does, is tie together NHL salaries to HFNHL salaries in a simple and easy to calculate way, while eliminating the time required to negotiate every deal (which reached an all-time high last year). It also gives a general basis to begin negotiations for many players, which will also simplify things. Obviously if you want to re-sign a player for 4 years and they are only signed for 2 in the NHL, the same formula won’t apply, but it will give a basis to the negotiations, as the team will know the auto-sign option is always there for them.
Teams should still follow the appropriate format with the additional item of Status (prospect, pending UFA or pending RFA):
Player Name
Status (prospect, RFA, UFA, pending RFA, pending UFA)
Age: XX (as noted in player vitals page)
Link to player vitals (www.nhlnumbers.com)
Current HFNHL contract (if applicable)
Current NHL contract (if applicable)
Offer: years x salary (i.e. 3 years x $500,000)
Notes: additional notes to his agent for consideration on the deal.
Example:
Wayne Primeau
Pending UFA
Age: 31
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=CGY
HFNHL Salary: $xxx,xxx
NHL Salary: 1,500,000
Offer: 2 years x $1,500,000
Notes: Matching the remaining term on his NHL deal with the Flames.
Hopefully this is clear. If there are any questions on this, feel free to post them here, so all teams can benefit from the ongoing Q&A.
Perhaps a moderator can sticky this post, so it is there going forward.
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