2002 Draft: 1st Round Re-do.

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  1. leafaholix*

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    Re-do the first round of the 2002 NHL Draft...

    1. Rick Nash
    2. Kari Lehtonen
    3. Jay Bouwmeester
    4. Joni Pitkanen
    5. Ryan Whitney
    6. Scott Upshall
    7. Joffrey Lupul
    8. Pierre-Marc Bouchard
    9. Petr Taticek
    10. Eric Nystrom
    11. Keith Ballard
    12. Steve Eminger
    13. Alexander Semin
    14. Christopher Higgins
    15. Jesse Niinimaki
    16. Jakub Klepis
    17. Boyd Gordon
    18. Denis Grebeshkov
    19. Jakub Koreis
    20. Daniel Paille
    21. Anton Babchuk
    22. Sean Bergenheim
    23. Ben Eager
    24. Alexander Steen
    25. Cam Ward
    26. Martin Vagner
    27. Mike Morris
    28. Jonas Johansson
    29. Hannu Toivonen
    30. Jim Slater

    Second Round
    Jeff Deslauriers
    Janos Vas
    Lee Felardeau
    Tobias Stephan
    Ondrej Nemec
    Jarret Stoll
    Tim Brent
    Josh Harding
    Brian McConnell
    Rob Globke
    Joakim Lindstrom
    Marius Holtet
    Trevor Daley
    Matt Greene
    Tomas Linhart
    David LeNeveu
    Alexei Kaygorodov
    Alexei Shkotov
    Kirill Koltsov
    Sergei Anshakov
    Anton Kadeykin
    Dan Spang
    Barry Tallackson
    Duncan Keith
    Denis Grot
    Vladislav Evseev
    Matthew Stajan
    Jiri Hudler
    Maxime Daigneault
    Adam Henrich
    Johnny Boychuk
    Andrei Mikhnov
    Tomas Fleischmann
     
  2. I'm sorry but what has Lupal, Whitney, and Upshall done more than Bouchard?

    And why is Harding still in the second round. Could be a later first rounder with his numbers.
     
  3. leafaholix*

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    That was the actual order of the 2002 draft.

    I have yet to make my "re-do" list.
     
  4. SmokeyClause

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    So, if a player has a decent (but not spectacular rookie season), they are all the sudden better than a player who didn't make his team out of camp? It's a rather large conclusion to make. PMB has done more than those 3 so far, but an NHL career isn't measured over the first 60 games. I mean, why not say Lasse Pirjeta in front of PMB, he's done more.
     
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    1.Rick Nash
    2.Kari Lehtonen
    3.Jay Bouwmeester
    4.Joni Pitkanen
    5.Joffrey Lupul
    6.Scottie Upshall
    7.Pierre-Marc Bouchard
    8.Ryan Whitney
    9.Eric Nystrom
    10.Steve Eminger
    11.Keith Ballard
    12.Alexander Semin
    13.Petr Taticek
    14.Chris Higgins
    15.Jesse Ninnimaki
    16.Boyd Gordon
    17.Denis Grebeshkov
    18.Jakub Klepis
    19.Sean Bergenheim
    20.Josh Harding
    21.Matt Stajan
    22.Alexander Steen
    23.Cam Ward
    24.Anton Babchuk
    25.Jiri Hudler
    26.Martin Vagner
    27.Kirill Koltsov
    28.Mike Morris
    29.Jeff Deslauriers
    30.Jarret Stoll


    I'm not too familiar with the others, so I'll leave them.
     
  6. My mistake :D
     
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    Yeah, that was the original draft order. But, I'd take Lupul and Upshall over PMB, though. Lupul looks like a future Rocket Richard winner, and Upshall looks like one of the best two-way forces the NHL will see in a couple years. Whitney, though, is not better than him.
     
  8. True Bouchard will never win a Rocket Richards award but I see him more like Sakic or Forsberg, dishing out a ton of assists to Gaborik, Dupuis, and anyone else on his line. He has such great stick handling abilities to go along with his amazing vision that he's pretty dang good.
     
  9. Hitman*

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    That draft was so much of a crap shoot after the top 7 picks that its really hard to re-do it now. Based on current performance Matt Lombardi is a 1st Rounder.

    Right now, the only thing I'd change is having JayBo going #1, but we all know why he didn't.
     
  10. leafaholix*

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    1. Rick Nash
    2. Kari Lehtonen
    3. Jay Bouwmeester
    4. Joni Pitkanen
    5. Joffrey Lupul
    6. Scott Upshall
    7. Pierre-Marc Bouchard
    8. Steve Eminger
    9. Ryan Whitney
    10. Denis Grebeshkov
    11. Alexander Semin
    12. Eric Nystrom
    13. Petr Taticek
    14. Keith Ballard
    15. Alexander Steen
    16. Boyd Gordon
    17. Christopher Higgins
    18. Anton Babchuk
    19. Daniel Paille
    20. David LeNeveu
    21. Sean Bergenheim
    22. Cam Ward
    23. Jesse Niinimaki
    24. Matthew Stajan
    25. Jakub Koreis
    26. Kirill Koltsov
    27. Josh Harding
    28. Martin Vagner
    29. Jeff Deslauriers
    30. Trevor Daley
     
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    Though Jay-Boom should've gone first, Rick Nash is looking better and better. I just think he may become the better of the two. Pitkanen and Lehtonen haven't even played yet, so either could prove to be better than them.
     
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    Pitkanen's played like 13 games in Philadelphia and leads all rookies in +/-.
     
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    1. Jay Bouwmeester
    2. Joni Pitkanen
    3. Rick Nash
    4. Kari Lehtonen
    5. PM Bouchard
    6. Scott Upshall
    7. Joffrey Lupul
    8. Steve Eminger
    9. Denis Grebeshkov
    10. Ryan Whitney
    11. Alexander Semin
    12. Chris Higgins
    13. Alexander Steen
    14. Kiril Koltsov
    15. Trevor Daley
    16. Jessi Niniimaki
    17. Keith Ballard
    18. Jiri Hudler
    19. Matthew Stajan
    20. Sean Bergenheim
    21. David Leneveu
    22. Boyd Gordon
    23. Jeff Deslauriers
    24. Jarrett Stoll
    25. Hannu Toivonen
    26. Eric Nystrom
    27. Anton Babchuk
    28. Daniel Paille
    29. Alexei Kaigorodov
    30. Matthew Lombardi

    Edit: After looking it over cloesly, I did a little tinkering to the bottom of the list, mostly around Daniel Paille.
     
  14. Wings Prospect Tomas Fleischmann is lighting up the WHL.
    He might just be a steal when all is said and done./
     
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    :eek: THE PERFECT LIST GOOD JOB BROCK!
     
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    No Cam Ward, Brock? Why not?
     
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    Well to be honest, He'd be number 31. Was the last cut off the list I made. I just think that there are some better prospects, all the while it's very close. Cam Ward is an excellent goalie, don't get me wrong, it's just that IMO the guys I have ahead of him are slightly better prospects/players, especially the "lower rated" goalies I have ahead of him like Leneveu, Deslauriers or Toivonen. The 2002 draft is slowly looking to be a very solid draft.
     
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    Well it just struck me strange to see Leneveau and Toivonen ranked above him, but I'll respect your opinion on that. I was just wondering what made you leave him off. It doesn't seem like he's done much to change his position and he and Josh Harding were the best goalies in the WHL last season.
     
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    I think a case could definitely be made either way, just a matter of opinion. Maybe it's just that sometimes I have jitters when it comes to rating WHL goaltending prospects high because of the string of bad luck that WHL goalie prospects have gone through in recent years.
     
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    As far as the Finns go, my ranking would be the following:

    1) Kari Lehtonen
    2) Joni Pitkänen

    -------gap-------

    3) Hannu Toivonen
    4) Jesse Niinimäki
    5) Sean Bergenheim
    6) Jarkko Immonen (the older one)

    -------gap-------

    the rest
     
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    That would be 'our' Jarkko Immonen right? :dunno:
     
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    I think thats kinda premature to say considering Whitney has never been to an NHL camp and played the entire last season injured....give it some time before we say that. You may turn out to be right but it is way to early to say that.
     
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    Yes, I believe so. You got yourselves a steal with the 254th overall pick. :)
     
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    A re-do over the Swedish prospects that were drafted.

    This was the actual order

    Code:
    Round Overall Team Player 
    1 #24 Toronto Alexander Steen 
    1 #28 Colorado Jonas Johansson 
    2 #41 Columbus Joakim Lindström 
    3 #81 NY Rangers Marcus Jonasén 
    4 #101 Pittsburgh Daniel Fernholm 
    4 #111 Edmonton Jonas Almtorp 
    4 #120 St Louis Robin Jonsson 
    4 #125 Ottawa Johan Björk 
    4 #131 Detroit Johan Berggren 
    5 #149 NY Islanders Marcus Paulsson 
    5 #159 Calgary Kristofer Persson 
    7 #204 Minnesota Nicklas Eckerblom 
    7 #207 Calgary Pierre Johnsson 
    7 #221 St Louis Jonas Johnsson 
    9 #262 Detroit Christian Söderström 
    9 #269 Minnesota Mika Hannula 
    9 #272 Washington Patric Blomdahl 
    9 #274 Edmonton Fredrik Johansson 
    9 #283 NY Islanders Per Braxenholm 
    9 #285 Toronto Staffan Kronwall 
    9 #291 Detroit Jonathan Ericsson 

    This is how I would draft 'em now

    1) Alexander Steen
    2) Jonas Johansson
    3) Joakim Lindström
    4) Staffan Kronwall
    5) Marcus Jonasén
    6) Marcus Paulsson
    7) Robin Jonsson
    8) Patric Blomdahl
    9) Fredrik Johansson
    10) Daniel Fernholm
    11) Jonas Almtorp
    12) Pierre Johnsson
    13) Johan Berggren
    14) Jonathan Ericsson
    15) Johan Björk
    16) Nicklas Eckerblom
    17) Kristofer Persson
    18) Christian Söderström
    19) Per Braxenholm

    Mika Hannula (overager)
    Jonas Johnsson (overager)
     
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    This is my homer post for the day, but I think Jim Slater would still slip into the first round if the draft were redone. He's got 15 points in 9 games and was named captain as a junior at Michigan State. He hits like a ton of bricks too.
     
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