jkrx
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185 +/- over 446 reg. season games. Extrapolate that vs. Lidstrom's or even Orr's career....he's easily top 3 all time.
Did you just state that Konstantinov is a top-3 defenseman of all-time?
185 +/- over 446 reg. season games. Extrapolate that vs. Lidstrom's or even Orr's career....he's easily top 3 all time.
Did you just state that Konstantinov is a top-3 defenseman of all-time?
So basically, Malkin, Crosby, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Thornton >>> Gordie Howe, Beliveau, Orr, Mikitia and so on?
Do you also believe Brett Hull was better than Bobby Hull?
Did you just state that Konstantinov is a top-3 defenseman of all-time?
Like I said this is pretty well documented. Michael Farber in 1997:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1010240/3/index.htm
Murray even became so concerned with it he started trying to run from the matchup of Lidstrom on Lindros.
Another story by Katie Baker when he retired:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/28479/nicklas-lidstroms-perfect-career
Another good one from Michael Rosenberg for SI
You can say whatever you want, but the fact Bowman wanted and won by putting Lidstrom out as much as he could against Lindros. Any other story just isn't very accurate. Konstantinov did do plenty of hitting in that series and was important. I don't forget how good he was back then many people thought he was going be better than Lidstrom and was better back then. Now I never agreed but I remember it quite well. Sadly we will never know and I cannot even put him over say Chris Osgood because his career is short and that is a factor. Also if we are going to play the what if game Jiri Fischer is another interesting name that was also destine for very big things in my opinion. He didn't accomplish as much as Konstantinov but I have no doubt in my mind that Fischer was also on his way to doing some great things.
I say staying up in the middle of the night watching your favorite team takes some kind of dedication. But learning about your team's history 50-60 years ago is just a waste of time. You can't compare the NHL at that time and now anyways.
A waste of time? Since when is being a hockey fan in any way related to efficient use of time? That's actually one of the worst arguments I've ever heard on the internet.
Not everything you do in life must be an "efficient use of time".
That's exactly my point. Why are you telling people that they are wasting their time? To you, learning about hockey history is a waste of time. To somebody else, it's fun and entertaining. To another somebody else, watching hockey is a waste of time and talking about hockey to strangers on a message board is an even bigger waste of time..
The Avs won in 2001 over the Devils. The Bourque cup.
The Wings won in 2002.
97, 98 & 2002 would be his cup years, spread out over 6 years.
My focus was on Konstantinov, because he is my favourite Wing after Yzerman. Was not trying to be ignorant of Lidstrom's effectiveness in that Final, but more-so was bringing up a period of time where Vlad truly won me over. He was physically dominating in that Final and a huge pest. He was very good at getting under player's skins. I suppose the best way to settle this if we could revisit the Final and rematch every game. Who's up for that?