Post-Game Talk: 2/25/17 | Sharks 4 @ Mumps 1

[BROCK HUGHES]

Willie stay has lasted way too long

Really have no idea why he is here in the first place,,he should have been fired months ago.
But season,s end,,will listen to Benning tell us about injurys,,and travel,,and young guys,,and now mumps...and Willie is a great guy...blah blah blah,,,

 

[Mal Reynolds]

These old stiffs in suits are starting to get on my nerves with this whole toothless, bearded, tattooed banter.

Enough already.

Oats went as far as to say you don't expect something intelligent to come out of his mouth until he starts talking...

Yeah, that one rubbed me the wrong way too, but then I remembered this was a guy who was a bit neurotic as a coach - for example, forcing players to play on their *correct* wing (RH shots on the right wing, etc etc)

Oates is old school. Totally different mentality. Always blows my mind how many people, even today, who are just totally anti-ink, for example... how can that person be intelligent or capable at their job, right...?

 

[Breakers]

He's had one poor season under Tortorella.

He's a guy that too often is asked to play above his pay grade and it shows with his play becoming inconsistent. He's a guy that plays very consistently at a steady 20 mins a night. There's ample proof of this. He's great at reading both ends of the ice and has a heavy shot, but takes a long time to set up. He's a solid hitter and clears the front of the crease reasonably well. His salary, for what he brings, is excellent.

At $5 mill a year I don't think so.

I'd say he is being asked to play like a $5 million d-man and he is not succeeding

 

[arttk]

Given that he couldn't get a shot past a set of shin pads if his life depended on it, how do you give him more power play time?

Edler is good when he is not the point shot on the PP. He was great when we had Erhoff and Salo teeing up from the point. Problem
is with management not realizing that and not getting a guy who can shoot and thus forcing Edler jnto a role that he is not good at.

 

[arttk]

At $5 mill a year I don't think so.

I'd say he is being asked to play like a $5 million d-man and he is not succeeding

Look around the league, that's how much top4 D are paid when they hit UFA.

 

[Captain Bowie]

Burrows. Good Guy. Gonna miss him. Hope he goes to a good team and goes deep into the playoffs.

 

[yvrtojfk]

Burrows says he'd come back as a UFA for sure if the team wants him.

 

[CanaFan]

Edler's lack of production is entirely a function of getting fewer PP minutes. Nothing more nothing less.

Yes and no. His minutes are down, it's true but so are his PP pts/60 as well. It's both minutes and rate.

Of course the entire PP is garbage now so who knows how to pinpoint how much is actually Edler.

 

[Kryten]

At $5 mill a year I don't think so.

I'd say he is being asked to play like a $5 million d-man and he is not succeeding

5m is a steal for a 25minute 30+point average defenseman

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Given that he couldn't get a shot past a set of shin pads if his life depended on it, how do you give him more power play time?

I wouldn't.

But he's Exhibit A into how a poor offensive D can still look "good" if given enough PP minutes.

Tanev has outproduced Edler at even strength every season they've been in the league together, but Edler had this rep as an offensive D because he, until this year, received ungodly amounts of PP time.

This year people are frustrated with him because they still think of him as someone who should be getting shots on net and putting up points, but he's never been very good at this. He's a great player because he chews up 25 minutes and limits chances against. He is not an offensive player any more than Tanev is.

 

[yvrtojfk]

Everyone here should be watching after hours.

 

[David71]

I think just hansen is going to get traded at the deadline.

2 out of 3. 3 for 3 even better.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Yes and no. His minutes are down, it's true but so are his PP pts/60 as well. It's both minutes and rate.

Of course the entire PP is garbage now so who knows how to pinpoint how much is actually Edler.

It is an incredibly marginal difference. He is about 2 points off the rate he was at 2 seasons ago. Close enough to be meaningless.

 

[HarvP19]

Everyone here should be watching after hours.

Scott Oak grinding burrows in the interview. Looks pissed.

 

[CanaFan]

It is an incredibly marginal difference. He is about 2 points off the rate he was at 2 seasons ago. Close enough to be meaningless.

Well he's at 75% of the minutes (2 instead of 3) and at 50% of the rate.

How is either "marginal"?

 

[quat]

At $5 mill a year I don't think so.

I'd say he is being asked to play like a $5 million d-man and he is not succeeding

I meant it figuratively and his paycheck reflects that.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Well he's at 75% of the minutes (2 instead of 3) and at 50% of the rate.

How is either "marginal"?

He has been roughly 6 points per 100 minutes throughout his career.

This year he has played around 100 minutes and has 4 points. He is 2 points off his rate. I would consider that marginal. You can consider that significant if you want.

Speaking in percentages does not mean much when the quantities are so small.

 

[Captain Bowie]

Scott Oak grinding burrows in the interview. Looks pissed.

What??

 

[quat]

Everyone here should be watching after hours.

"Burrrr get on the ice" lol Crawford for the win.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

What??

Led off with some prying about whether he's agreed to waive his NTC, amongst other things

Burrows handled it well.

 

[yvrtojfk]

"Burrrr get on the ice" lol Crawford for the win.

Hahaha. New town bakery skit. That was great.

 

[arttk]

I wouldn't.

But he's Exhibit A into how a poor offensive D can still look "good" if given enough PP minutes.

Tanev has outproduced Edler at even strength every season they've been in the league together, but Edler had this rep as an offensive D because he, until this year, received ungodly amounts of PP time.

This year people are frustrated with him because they still think of him as someone who should be getting shots on net and putting up points, but he's never been very good at this. He's a great player because he chews up 25 minutes and limits chances against. He is not an offensive player any more than Tanev is.

Someone here did an analysis on Tanev and he is actually above average to elite when it comes to ES point production. So i don't see that as a point against Edler.
Problem with Tanev is that he has no shot whatsoever and he suvks on the PP because of that. He is no threat whatsoever and the other team don't even bother covering him because they know he won't shoot or don't care if he shoots. Give Tanev more minutes and his PP point production is not going to increase that much more.

Edler is not a point man, hence he struggles when we continue to try to make him one.

 

[quat]

Heh ... this bit with Willie and Burrows at this Chinese bakery is great. Willie seems really nice. Wish he coached better at this level.

 

[ziploc]

Was at the game, which was surprisingly fun and competitive until the end. Great hit by Labate, Biega had a ton of energy (and a few brain farts), and both Edler and Hutton were noticeably poor at times, likely primarily because they played so much in tough situations. Kind of sad probably seeing Hansen and Burrows for the last time live in Canucks unis, but then again who knows what will happen.

 

[Breakers]

I wouldn't have apologized to that ****** Patrick O'sullivan again.