GDT: 2/10/17 - Wild vs. Lightning - 7PM CT / 3AM Suomi - NBCSN

tomgilbertfan · Feb 10, 2017

Koivu Channeling a little Nummelin.

Sidenote: I miss Nummelin's shoulder-shimmy he would pull out. Thing was effortless.

57special · Feb 10, 2017

TaLoN said:
Olofsson plays Left side...

I meant Scandella. And I meant as go to guy as far as TOI is concerned once Brodin comes back. I realize there is a handedness issue. Dumba will still get his PP minutes.

Olofsson simply didn't make an ass out of himself, which is a good thing. Would like to see more of him.

TaLoN · Feb 10, 2017

57special said:
I meant Scandella. And I meant as go to guy as far as TOI is concerned once Brodin comes back. I realize there is a handedness issue. Dumba will still get his PP minutes.

Olofsson simply didn't make an ass out of himself, which is a good thing. Would like to see more of him.

Dumba is having a solid year. The games that he plays more minutes, he actually looks better in. I'd be shocked if Scandella suddenly started passing him up as the #4 in ice time after Brodin is back.

57special · Feb 11, 2017

TaLoN said:
Dumba is having a solid year. The games that he plays more minutes, he actually looks better in. I'd be shocked if Scandella suddenly started passing him up as the #4 in ice time after Brodin is back.

Well, we certainly see things differently. Dumba makes some great plays, but the last word I would use to describe him is solid.

TaLoN · Feb 11, 2017

57special said:
Well, we certainly see things differently. Dumba makes some great plays, but the last word I would use to describe him is solid.

His year is solid... yes, there is risk reward in terms of his play, but he's more reward than risk overall.

PuckInTheNards · Feb 11, 2017

57special said:
Well, we certainly see things differently. Dumba makes some great plays, but the last word I would use to describe him is solid.

He was tonight. Played really well in the defensive zone.

Loopy0ne · Feb 11, 2017

PuckInTheNards said:
He was tonight. Played really well in the defensive zone.

He single handily shut down Kuch on a few different plays, knocked him down and muscled him. To me, that is very solid. Kucherov is their best player.

TaLoN · Feb 11, 2017

Loopy0ne said:
He single handily shut down Kuch on a few different plays, knocked him down and muscled him. To me, that is very solid. Kucherov is their best player.

The problem is, when you make good plays defensively, they don't get noticed much, you make a mistake, and everyone and their mother notices.

It's why Suter is so underrated - he's an elite defender, but much of what he does goes almost unnoticed to someone not actually watching for it. We've seen Suter so much that we can't HELP but notice, and that's why we recognize he's likely the single best skater we have on the team, but it goes back to my point... Dumba gets noticed for a mistake, then he may not make a mistake for quite some time, and even make some real good defensive plays, but people generally only remember that one mistake and they can't let it go.

gphr513 · Feb 11, 2017

Lapa said:
Oh hey! I'm not talking by myself anymore

Damn, the one night Lapa is up for a game and I miss it... Grrr :laugh:

Sharppi · Feb 11, 2017

Yay, points.

AKL · Feb 11, 2017

TaLoN said:
The problem is, when you make good plays defensively, they don't get noticed much, you make a mistake, and everyone and their mother notices.

It's why Suter is so underrated - he's an elite defender, but much of what he does goes almost unnoticed to someone not actually watching for it. We've seen Suter so much that we can't HELP but notice, and that's why we recognize he's likely the single best skater we have on the team, but it goes back to my point... Dumba gets noticed for a mistake, then he may not make a mistake for quite some time, and even make some real good defensive plays, but people generally only remember that one mistake and they can't let it go.

I don't think you can call Dumba anything but average, at worst, defensively at this point. He simply doesn't have near the volume of mistakes he had when he first came into the league. That alone should indicate he should continue getting better. He'll never be Brodin level defensively, but Brodin will never be his level offensively. Yes part of the game is keeping pucks out of your net, but the game is still primarily about outscoring your opponent.

Offense can fail on any given night, and even if your defense is good, you can still take an L. If your offense is firing on all cylinders, and your defense is average, you're more than likely to win.

TaLoN · Feb 11, 2017

AKL said:
I don't think you can call Dumba anything but average, at worst, defensively at this point. He simply doesn't have near the volume of mistakes he had when he first came into the league. That alone should indicate he should continue getting better. He'll never be Brodin level defensively, but Brodin will never be his level offensively. Yes part of the game is keeping pucks out of your net, but the game is still primarily about outscoring your opponent.

Offense can fail on any given night, and even if your defense is good, you can still take an L. If your offense is firing on all cylinders, and your defense is average, you're more than likely to win.

Agree, but people talk like he's some insanely bad liability when he's actually not.

Thus I go back to my original comment... Dumba is having a solid season this year.

hirawl · Feb 11, 2017

Dumba still constantly turns simple and safe plays into something with a risk for no real reward in sight. He's been able to cut back a little bit but it's still his biggest issue by far.

Wabit · Feb 11, 2017

Olofsson impressed me tonight. He's a better puck handler than I he would be. His zone exits were cleaner than Prosser's. His overall game seems more polished than Reilly's. Most of his plays were smart and safe last night.

Lapa · Feb 11, 2017

gphr513 said:
Damn, the one night Lapa is up for a game and I miss it... Grrr

Had to carry this GDT all by myself for the first period :sarcasm:

jackouu · Feb 11, 2017

melinko said:
That was nice from Koivu, different but the same.

No way the goalie thought he was going to do his trademark move when everything leading up to it was different.

http://imgur.com/pIvKZxD

Minnesota · Feb 11, 2017

Love when Scandella jumps into the play using his speed and strength. He's done it twice these past couple games. Grade A chances each time.

MuckOG · Feb 11, 2017

Wabit said:
Olofsson impressed me tonight. He's a better puck handler than I he would be. His zone exits were cleaner than Prosser's. His overall game seems more polished than Reilly's. Most of his plays were smart and safe last night.

He impressed me as well. The learning curve doesn't seem quite as steep for him.

57special · Feb 11, 2017

Wabit said:
Olofsson impressed me tonight. He's a better puck handler than I he would be. His zone exits were cleaner than Prosser's. His overall game seems more polished than Reilly's. Most of his plays were smart and safe last night.

MuckOG said:
He impressed me as well. The learning curve doesn't seem quite as steep for him.

Definitely want to see more of him. Wonder if plays the right side as well?

Eye Floater · Feb 11, 2017

Wabit said:
Olofsson impressed me tonight. He's a better puck handler than I he would be. His zone exits were cleaner than Prosser's. His overall game seems more polished than Reilly's. Most of his plays were smart and safe last night.

I agree. He's looked great and plays a very solid game all around.

For future call-ups, there really is no reason Reilly should be brought up instead of Olofsson. Olofsson is just flat out better and is a better fit on our team.

If we lose Scandella to the expansion draft I think Olofsson would be ready for a full time role next year.

SomethingGeneric · Feb 11, 2017

Couple observations from the game...

1. Scandella has looked better the last few games and had a solid game last night. Like to see him stepping up and driving the offense with his neutral zone rushes.
2. Olfosson looked good and should be given a few more games at a minimum. Like someone else said he will be good to have next year if Scandella gets picked. Very similar in the defensive zone.
3. Coyle/Staal are two guys who need to pick it up. Pretty underwhelming game for both on the offensive side of the puck.
4. #11 seems like he's back so that's pretty neat.

Wild11MN · Feb 11, 2017

SomethingGeneric said:
Couple observations from the game...

1. Scandella has looked better the last few games and had a solid game last night. Like to see him stepping up and driving the offense with his neutral zone rushes.
2. Olfosson looked good and should be given a few more games at a minimum. Like someone else said he will be good to have next year if Scandella gets picked. Very similar in the defensive zone.
3. Coyle/Staal are two guys who need to pick it up. Pretty underwhelming game for both on the offensive side of the puck.
4. #11 seems like he's back so that's pretty neat.

Very much agree on all four.

GDT: 2/10/17 - Wild vs. Lightning - 7PM CT / 3AM Suomi - NBCSN

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