I thought Goldeneye was an crappy glorified party game, even at the time, personally, whose influence is overstated, and has held up about as badly as just about any game I can think of. I've never really considered it good, period.
Final Fantasy VII is a supremely unpolished and messy game. Almost all of the little extraneous details are done poorly (localization, polygons, convolutedness, and mini-games in particular), but the core spirit of what it is is still great/timeless, and holds up very well, IMO. You still get a genuinely inspired feeling experiencing it, and can feel moved by the ambition and scale. I mean, the music alone...
Its influence/impact is massive and undeniable, but I don't really even care about that side of it. While innovation matters, influence is an overrated consideration as a whole, IMO. It's just another type of popularity. If we're giving these games credit for "popularizing the genre", then we might as well soullessly compare their sales numbers and treat that as if it matters in this kind of discussion.
I don't think nostalgia matters either, personally. Who cares whether or not we had fun with them when we were all easily amused idiots who didn't know any better? What matters is what we think of them now, with the benefit of hindsight.
Neither are as good as Symphony of the Night, which on top of feeling inspired, is actually a tight and refined game without the massive holes that these games have, IMO.