Proposal: 14th + 33rd for a top 10

[Patty Ice]

Any of those teams biting? How much closer, if at all, to the middle (of the top 10) if the 42nd is added?

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[Baksfamous112]

In 2019 Arizona traded #14 and #45 for #11.

IF* if you find a taker, #14 and #33 should get you #9 or #10.

 

[CanadienShark]

In 2019 Arizona traded #14 and #45 for #11.

IF* if you find a taker, #14 and #33 should get you #9 or #10.

I'd pull the trigger myself as a Sharks fan. I'm not sure Calgary or NJ do it though.

 

[HBK27]

I'd probably make that trade from NJ's perspective - guess it all depends on who's still available at #10. Devils could certainly use the extra pick as they do not have a 2nd rounder this year and only 11 picks over the next 2 drafts. I do worry about there being a bit of a drop from 10 to 14 though, particularly if RHD fall as that's the one position NJ would probably look to avoid.

 

[Forge]

Any of those teams biting? How much closer, if at all, to the middle (of the top 10) if the 42nd is added?

I don't hate 10 for 14 and 42 from a devils perspective.

Not sure how much higher you can get though. Teams just don't trade those picks. I think you're mostly looking at that 8-10 range, and for those three teams, it could be based on where they see that tier drop at. I think a lot of teams could definitely see a drop in the prospect level from something like 10 to 14.

 

[Patty Ice]

I'd probably make that trade from NJ's perspective - guess it all depends on who's still available at #10. Devils could certainly use the extra pick as they do not have a 2nd rounder this year and only 11 picks over the next 2 drafts. I do worry about there being a bit of a drop from 10 to 14 though, particularly if RHD fall as that's the one position NJ would probably look to avoid.

At 10, I'd be more inclined to offer the Devils' 2nd pack first. If one of those RHDs do fall to that pick, then I'd be more amenable.

 

[Xirik]

If this trade helps get the Devils a goalie in a trade (Devils don't have a 2nd this year) Then I'd be for it.

I'd hope 1 of Helenius, Nygard, and Chernyshov are sitll there at 14th, If not Boisvert.

 

[Patty Ice]

I'm interested in what Ottawa fans would think if the Sharks offered 14th, 33rd, and 42nd given that they will have to surrender a 1st at some point in the near future.

 

[Xirik]

I'm interested in what Ottawa fans would think if the Sharks offered 14th, 33rd, and 42nd given that they will have to surrender a 1st at some point in the near future.

I think for Ottawa it would depend on if they think Some D will drop to 14th and how high they are on Adam Jiricek.

 

[Djp]

I'd pull the trigger myself as a Sharks fan. I'm not sure Calgary or NJ do it though.

NJ might if they plan on trading pick for a player but 10 is too high

 

[blankall]

As a Flames fan, I wouldn't take that deal. The Flames need the best possible talent far more than they need potential depth.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I think for Ottawa it would depend on if they think Some D will drop to 14th and how high they are on Adam Jiricek.

Ya agree, I think the 5-6 D will be gone after 10. Also I think the next tier starts around 14/15.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

I'd pull the trigger myself as a Sharks fan. I'm not sure Calgary or NJ do it though.

New Jersey's case is that trading down would be excellent to re-stock their prospect cupboard.

The case against would obviously be that prospect cupboards *should* be put on the backburner as this is a team looking to compete

Now if NJ could trade down and somehow gain a quailty roster asset, that could work in theory but I don't see how it would in practice.

 

[Erep]

I do worry about there being a bit of a drop from 10 to 14 though, particularly if RHD fall as that's the one position NJ would probably look to avoid.

If the Sharks are moving up, it is likely to take a D man (possibly RHD), so that would actually increase the odds a forward is the one from that top 14-15 left over at that spot. As trade partners, different needs makes it make more sense.

I'd hope 1 of Helenius, Nygard, and Chernyshov are sitll there at 14th, If not Boisvert.

We "know" Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom (assuming injuries aren't catastrophic), and Iginla will be gone by then. We can assume if the Sharks are trading up it is a pretty good indication the top 6 D men will be gone. That is 10 players.

That leaves 3 picks before the 14th for Helenius, Nygard, Chernyshov, Eiserman, Catton, and Sennecke. Extremely likely there is an option NJ is happy with is still there, unless they are super locked in on one guy.

 

[CanadienShark]

New Jersey's case is that trading down would be excellent to re-stock their prospect cupboard.

The case against would obviously be that prospect cupboards *should* be put on the backburner as this is a team looking to compete

Now if NJ could trade down and somehow gain a quailty roster asset, that could work in theory but I don't see how it would in practice.

Don't talk to the Sharks then.

 

[TheBeard]

If the Sharks are moving up, it is likely to take a D man (possibly RHD), so that would actually increase the odds a forward is the one from that top 14-15 left over at that spot. As trade partners, different needs makes it make more sense.



We "know" Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom (assuming injuries aren't catastrophic), and Iginla will be gone by then. We can assume if the Sharks are trading up it is a pretty good indication the top 6 D men will be gone. That is 10 players.

That leaves 3 picks before the 14th for Helenius, Nygard, Chernyshov, Eiserman, Catton, and Sennecke. Extremely likely there is an option NJ is happy with is still there, unless they are super locked in on one guy.

Agreed. Devils don't "need" another D prospect, and the plethora of talents that will be available in that 13-18 range (the names mentioned) means the team will get a good talent and also get another high 2nd in the process. Seems like a win-win for all.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Don't talk to the Sharks then.

Yeah probably not the best trading partners..

 

[DJJones]

As a Flames fan, I wouldn't take that deal. The Flames need the best possible talent far more than they need potential depth.

Yep, I've hardly thought about the Vancouver first rounder. We seem to be very strong at developing depth talent, we need high end.

 

[Xirik]

Agreed. Devils don't "need" another D prospect, and the plethora of talents that will be available in that 13-18 range (the names mentioned) means the team will get a good talent and also get another high 2nd in the process. Seems like a win-win for all.

I want my 2nd round pick back please.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Agreed. Devils don't "need" another D prospect, and the plethora of talents that will be available in that 13-18 range (the names mentioned) means the team will get a good talent and also get another high 2nd in the process. Seems like a win-win for all.

Siegenthaler is regressing, Hamilton also coming back from a major injury... the Devils aren't as set on defense as one would think.

 

[TheBeard]

Siegenthaler is regressing, Hamilton also coming back from a major injury... the Devils aren't as set on defense as one would think.

Set? No, but with Hughes and Nemec (and Casey and possibly Foote for bottom pairing) grabbing one of the last top 6 D prospects probably isn't as high up the list as perhaps finding a 3C

I want my 2nd round pick back please.

The trade partner scenario is almost too perfect.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Set? No, but with Hughes and Nemec (and Casey and possibly Foote for bottom pairing) grabbing one of the last top 6 D prospects probably isn't as high up the list as perhaps finding a 3C

Here's hoping for a Henrique reunion.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I'm interested in what Ottawa fans would think if the Sharks offered 14th, 33rd, and 42nd given that they will have to surrender a 1st at some point in the near future.

I'd take it as a Sens fan.

 

[TheBeard]

Here's hoping for a Henrique reunion.

Can you really afford it with Haula there at 3 + for two more years?

 

[Gecklund]

As a Flames fan, I wouldn't take that deal. The Flames need the best possible talent far more than they need potential depth.

That’s sadly the issue for most of these teams. Feel like with the drop from their pick to 14 is too big for them and most of these teams are wanting that elite talent.