Zetterberg 7th in DRW scoring all time
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Pavels Dog
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Z looked pretty bad to start the year but lately he's been great. The Isles game has to be one of the best he's played in 2-3 years. He looked to be moving great, protecting the puck, making smart plays all over the rink and added some scoring.
The way he's able to hang on still is impressive. Makes you wonder how good he could have been if not for all those back issues.
The way he's able to hang on still is impressive. Makes you wonder how good he could have been if not for all those back issues.
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Interesting. I just looked up the all-time list: http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/teams/detroit-red-wings-players-career-nhl-stats.html
Zetterberg should make it to # 5 in both goals and points on that list, barring a serious injury, steep decline, trade, or early(ish) retirement.
As a Leaf fan, I had never heard of Delvecchio, so it was interesting to see him so high on the list. His career numbers (in a vacuum) are more impressive than Ted Lindsay's, who almost every hockey fan has heard of thanks to the award.
Zetterberg should make it to # 5 in both goals and points on that list, barring a serious injury, steep decline, trade, or early(ish) retirement.
As a Leaf fan, I had never heard of Delvecchio, so it was interesting to see him so high on the list. His career numbers (in a vacuum) are more impressive than Ted Lindsay's, who almost every hockey fan has heard of thanks to the award.
LeighDx59
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It took him a second to get going but he looks alot better so far this season. Whether or not he can keep it up is a different story but who expected him to lead the team in points?
Delvecchio had a looooong career, I assume that amongst the older fans he is well known. I know about him obviously, but not in detail. He's got his jersey #10 in the ceiling at Joe Louis. Maybe a true Detroit fan can tell us more what he means to the club. Should be a lot of history there. Of course there is also Wikipedia...
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HIFE
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Z is one of the greats from the last 100 years. It's interesting he would pass Pavel, very fitting twist to the euro-twins legacy. Hank is a superstar. I loved when Gretzky proclaimed him as his favorite Swedish player. There will never be another like him.
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If he can play into his 40s like datsyuk could. Get 30-40 points he could probably make third. Def 4th
HIFE
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Many have had a rough time witnessing the injuries. Lots of feelings as a follower: sadness, frustration, anger. People have said some really stupid stuff but I think it's a reaction of shock viewing Zetter as a young man and now. He's never been the same and it's a mixed bag of emotions responding to that.
I for one am stopping my need to state negative opinions of Z's game. Yeah, the report is out- Zetter is not quite the player from 6 years ago. Instead look at the miraculous plays he creates. And hey his skating may be bad but it ain't Shane Doan bad!
Think he's finally made the adjustment to his game to remain competitive, plus he looks as healthy as he has in a long time. Obviously all time favorite, and I'm really going to enjoy him and kroners last couple of seasons as there'll be the unofficial end to an incredible era in drws history, God I miss datsyuk wish we could of had one more season together.
Good for him and the team that he finds a way to be productive even if his legs isnt there. Not all players that you can say that about...
Altough it would maybe be better if everybody just sucked for a better draft position. Nah thats defeatist. I hope that the Wings somehow scrambles to another PO run...aand if they dont we take the early pick as consolation.
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Has anyone else noticed how much better he's been playing with Mantha and to a lesser extent Tatar on his line? I hope they keep that line together for a while. I also hope Mantha has done enough to stay up when everyone is healthy.
Yeah he has skated much better and has been very energetic recently.
I wonder if it's just a coincidence that his improved play started around when mantha was put on his line. Probably.
Probably not, that lines possession has gone way way up since he started playing with Z and he has the best possession stats on the team by a bit, that's gonna lead to more offense.
If he continues to play like this, I'd really rethink my take on the protection thing. Sure, sooner or later he's running out of gas.
But never expected him to bounce back like this after his endless struggles with his back. To me he's looking really sharp right now. A pleasure watching him play.
Contrary to that, Kronner's regression train is gathering speed - sadly. I really like him, and am still the opinion that he gets ripped on too much around here. Nothing to argue about him struggling more & more though. At the same time, I expect DDK to show more glances of offensive plays like yesterday. Not just backchecking well on a 3on3, but directly getting back into the offensive play & get in position to score. That was awesome.
But never expected him to bounce back like this after his endless struggles with his back. To me he's looking really sharp right now. A pleasure watching him play.
Contrary to that, Kronner's regression train is gathering speed - sadly. I really like him, and am still the opinion that he gets ripped on too much around here. Nothing to argue about him struggling more & more though. At the same time, I expect DDK to show more glances of offensive plays like yesterday. Not just backchecking well on a 3on3, but directly getting back into the offensive play & get in position to score. That was awesome.
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Lazlo Hollyfeld
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Glad to see him working his way up the list. It's a bummer he's never going to win a Selke in his career. The guy deserves at least one or two.
Cyborg Yzerberg
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Definitely deserved one for his 2007-2008 season.
That was one of the best individual seasons I had ever seen from one of our guys.
Z definitely deserves his number in the rafters. Dude's a first ballot hall of famer, and will have assembled a real illustrious career when he finally hangs them up all with the Red Wings.
Let's remember that the summer of 2015, Z was coming off back surgery and that would have affected his training. Summer16, he was healthy, got some rest and then worked his ass off. Glad to see it paying dividends. Its clear he is not the same player of 2009 but he is still the leader of this team and arguably the best player.
I'm glad to see some respect returning on this board.
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And Blashill the genius every now and then benches Mantha in favor of giving Jurco some shifts on that line. I distinctly remember two instances where Jurco was on that line where they ended up hemmed into the d-zone and we got penalties.
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Agreed.
I love me some Datsyuk but to me he was often the 2nd best two-way forward on the team. Or maybe more like Z was 1A and Dats was 1B.
These days Z is competing mostly by pure will and hockey smarts.
Mantha is actually doing what Abdelkader/Bertuzzi/Glendening were allegedly doing on top lines for years: creating space.
Mantha attracts a ton of attention wherever he goes and yet he can actually come up with puck, retain the puck to make a play, or effectively use his body to clear a lane for a shot. He did it last night on Zetterberg's goal. Went to the net and was basically a brick wall - kept the defender from blocking the shot or covering Zetterberg. That alone should help Zetterberg's longevity.
Mantha attracts a ton of attention wherever he goes and yet he can actually come up with puck, retain the puck to make a play, or effectively use his body to clear a lane for a shot. He did it last night on Zetterberg's goal. Went to the net and was basically a brick wall - kept the defender from blocking the shot or covering Zetterberg. That alone should help Zetterberg's longevity.
Yeah that 07-08 season was incredible, definitely his peak as a player (playoffs included)
40 goals, on pace for 100+ points, conn smythe
And to think Datsyuk was putting up 97 pt seasons along with him.
Those late 000s teams were awesome.
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