Zenon's Mock

zjh

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Okay guys,

I decided to have a lot of fun with this one. You'll see.

When I decide who teams are going to take, I use a system that I call "The Scouts Instinct Theory". I made it up. I never look at team needs or depth charts, I just throw guys that seem to make sense and guess on guys that teams would like. So hold back no beaks...:

#1 – Colorado Avalanche – Nathan MacKinnon – I would trust Sakic to take care of my dog over the weekend, so I am going to trust him that he is taking a forward. Nathan is the best forward and future allstar.

#2 – Florida Panthers – Seth Jones – They lost the lottery, but they feel like winners after grabbing the best defenseman in the draft. Jones will be an allstar for many years and completes the Panthers stocked prospect pool.

#3 – Tampa Bay Lightning – Jonathan Drouin – The Tampa Bay Lightning love drafting Russians (apparently) so it only makes sense that they decide to take the best player available in the Three-hole. Future star.

#4 – Nashville Predators – Aleksander Barkov – The Predators aren’t stupid, so they take the best player available. End of story.

#5 – Carolina Hurricanes – Sean Monohan – The Canes already have a Russian in Alexander Semin so they decide to pass on Valeri and take Sean because they like him better. Yeah.

#6 – Calgary Flames – Valeri Nichuskin – Calgary takes the most skilled player that projects to be a complete stud if all things go well. Hopefully all things go well.

#7 – Edmonton Oilers – Darnell Nurse – He is a very good defenseman that they need. Oil fans can keep pretending that Marincin, Gernat, and Musil are sure things, but they aren’t. So Nurse makes sense.

#8 - Buffalo Sabres – Elias Lindholm – They run up to the podium immediately following the Oilers selection, forgetting to thank the city and congratulate the Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks, they proudly announce the Lindholm selection.

#9 – New Jersey Devils – Nikita Zadorov – They don’t like anyone on the board as much as they do Nikita. The big tough Russian will be a future stud. They like his toughness.

#10 – Dallas Stars – Bo Horvat – Dallas’ new management team covets character, so they grab a guy with tons of it. Bo and Eakin will be a tough duo down the middle for years to come.

#11 – Philadelphia Flyers – Rasmus Ristolainen – Flyers grab the best defenseman on the board. He will be ready in a year. Good upside.

#12 – Phoenix Coyotes – Alexander Wenneberg - I don’t know anything about Wenneberg, but the Yotes like his Swedishness. Just add their best prospect on their board.

#13 – Winnipeg Jets – Hunter Shinkaruk – They wanted to get another player on the board, but they will proudly mosey up to the stage to present Hunter with a jersey with his name on it. Cheveldayoff will have a big smile. TRUE NORTH.

#14 – Columbus Blue Jackets – Frederik Gauthier – The Jackets get one of the best two-way forwards in the draft. They think him, Boone, and Johan will make a killer team down the middle.

#15 – New York Islanders – Max Domi – They took seven defenseman last year so they don’t hesitate to draft the most skilled forward on the board. The bloodlines are good too.

#16 – Buffalo Sabres – Ryan Pulock – He has a killer shot and is the type of defenseman that can fit into a lot of different systems. Sabres scouts decide to pick him over Morrissey, but it was close.

#17 – Ottawa Senators – Adam Erne – a big forward that can score, Erne is their guy. Because I said so.

#18 – Detroit Red Wings – Josh Morrissey – Can you really question any picks that the Wings make? I don’t, so the Morrissey pick is a slam dunk, whether you like it or not.

#19 – Columbus Blue Jackets – Mirco Mueller – they liked him early in the year along with Murray. Kid will keep improving. Kekelainen continues to chuckle with excitement. Thinks the game well.

#20 – San Jose Sharks –Zach Fucale – The draft their goalie of the future. Tuuka Rask was a first round pick, so it makes complete sense to wait until later in the draft to get an inferior goalie prospect and praying he becomes something, right? No, be quiet.

#21 – Toronto Maple Leafs – Valentin Zykov – He’s got size and can score. The Leafs decide they like him a bit better than Rychel so they nab him. Like his top-6 upside. Burke is sitting a few tables over with the Ducks throwing gutless beaks.

#22 – Calgary Flames – Morgan Klimchuk – the Flames take the hometown kid. They missed out on Ebs a few years ago, but they won’t let this beauty out of their hands.

#23 – Washington Capitals – Anthony Mantha – Since they drafted stone-hands Wilson last year, they decide to take a guy that can actually score. Haha just kidding, but Mantha can score so they grab him.

#24 – Vancouver Canucks – Kerby Rychel – Torts liked this kid on film, so Torts gives him a nice big hug on the stage after the Nucks scoop him up. Good ole Torts.

#25 – Montreal Canadiens – Andre Burakovsky – He shoots he scores. I don’t know a thing about him, but Bergevin and company do. Mock draft.

#26 – Anaheim Ducks – Curtis Lazar – He goes to the Ducks finally. Teams don’t like him as much as some independent scouting bureaus do, so that’s why he lasts until 26. Deep down inside, Curtis is doing a happy dance that he gets to play in a warm place.

#27 – Columbus Blue Jackets – Nic Petan – I wanted to interview Petan in Kelowna in February, but a Blue Jackets scout was talking to him for like 20 minutes. I got him for less than a minute after, still rattled about that. So they better damn take him to make me look smart #karma.

#28 – Calgary Flames – Shea Theodore – He is a tall puck mover with tons of room to grow. Tod Button loved spending time at Starbucks at Pike Place this year, so he saw enough of Shea to take him with this pick. The type of prospect they don’t have right now.

#29 – Dallas Stars – Madison Bowey – Nill liked his game at the U18’s late in the year. Despite having too much Smirnoff on the trip, he remembers enough to be satisfied with the selection.

#30 – Chicago Blackhawks – Ryan Hartman – The Hawks take him because they won the cup and just don’t care what anyone else thinks. After taking a bit of time out of their ring sizing session in Newark, their scouts settled on Hartman. They return to dreaming about diamonds until their next pick.
 

LT

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Meh on Horvat. Would prefer any of the next 3 picks.
 

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If the Sharks take Fucale when a goaltender is the absolute last thing they should be looking for in this draft, I'll be sick. I wouldn't even want him if he were available at 49.
 

How Ya Drouin

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#3 – Tampa Bay Lightning – Jonathan Drouin – The Tampa Bay Lightning love drafting Russians (apparently) so it only makes sense that they decide to take the best player available in the Three-hole. Future star.

They love drafting Russians so they take a Canadian? :confused:
 

Juxtaposer

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Yeah, because the Sharks need a goalie of the future with the second first rounder they've kept in 6 years because they have problems with their 29-year-old Vezina nominee. Great logic.
 

zjh

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Yeah, because the Sharks need a goalie of the future with the second first rounder they've kept in 6 years because they have problems with their 29-year-old Vezina nominee. Great logic.

Did you read the top part where I said I don't look at depth charts? Chill out dude. ps. If you'd ever seen Fucale play you might have a different perspective.
 

Joey Moss

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#7 – Edmonton Oilers – Darnell Nurse – He is a very good defenseman that they need. Oil fans can keep pretending that Marincin, Gernat, and Musil are sure things, but they aren’t. So Nurse makes sense.

You are right.. they aren't sure things you can't ignore that they are definitely more of a sure thing than Ewanyk, Vande Velde, Arcobello, Martindale, Khaira etc.. The Oilers have a bigger need for a center in their prospect pool. Not to mention the fact almost every rankings have Lindholm as a better prospect than Nurse. BPA + bigger need, it's hard to pass on Lindholm.

Unless you are drafting an NHL ready player in the top 3 picks or so, the draft is for bolstering your future. In the future, the D will not be nearly as big a problem as it is today and our center depth will be.

I like Nurse, and wouldn't mind it if the Oilers picked him but I just prefer Lindholm.

Oilers fans are aggressive when people try to say drafting a defenseman is a bigger need, but trust us there is a reason for it. We are not just wanting a forward because they are the "sexier" pick.
 

ManByng

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#7 – Edmonton Oilers – Darnell Nurse – He is a very good defenseman that they need. Oil fans can keep pretending that Marincin, Gernat, and Musil are sure things, but they aren’t. So Nurse makes sense.

^ya because Nurse is so much more of a sure thing... :shakehead
 

Juxtaposer

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Did you read the top part where I said I don't look at depth charts? Chill out dude. ps. If you'd ever seen Fucale play you might have a different perspective.

I love the "if you've ever seen so-and-so play, you'd think differently" mentality. I don't care how good you think Fucale is. If he were good enough to be a future all-star, then he'd be ranked much higher. If he's simply good enough to maybe be an above average starter, then I don't want him. Look at the Sharks system. Look at their youth both in and out of the NHL. Obviously high end forwards are their biggest need. Fucale isn't better than every forward left on the board, and he's not the BPA. Not BPA + not a need = won't be picked. Teams with 29 year-old Vezina nominees and a couple of solid AHL goaltenders and a severe lack of high-end forward prospects don't draft meh goaltending prospects at #20 in the strongest draft in years. "Scout's Instinct" my ass.
 

zjh

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I love the "if you've ever seen so-and-so play, you'd think differently" mentality. I don't care how good you think Fucale is. If he were good enough to be a future all-star, then he'd be ranked much higher. If he's simply good enough to maybe be an above average starter, then I don't want him. Look at the Sharks system. Look at their youth both in and out of the NHL. Obviously high end forwards are their biggest need. Fucale isn't better than every forward left on the board, and he's not the BPA. Not BPA + not a need = won't be picked. Teams with 29 year-old Vezina nominees and a couple of solid AHL goaltenders and a severe lack of high-end forward prospects don't draft meh goaltending prospects at #20 in the strongest draft in years. "Scout's Instinct" my ass.

Well I enjoyed making it, so hopefully you enjoyed reading it. That's just how it shaked out. I actually had Lazar there but I changed it because I wanted Fucale somewhere up there.
 

zjh

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You are right.. they aren't sure things you can't ignore that they are definitely more of a sure thing than Ewanyk, Vande Velde, Arcobello, Martindale, Khaira etc.. The Oilers have a bigger need for a center in their prospect pool. Not to mention the fact almost every rankings have Lindholm as a better prospect than Nurse. BPA + bigger need, it's hard to pass on Lindholm.

Unless you are drafting an NHL ready player in the top 3 picks or so, the draft is for bolstering your future. In the future, the D will not be nearly as big a problem as it is today and our center depth will be.

I like Nurse, and wouldn't mind it if the Oilers picked him but I just prefer Lindholm.

Oilers fans are aggressive when people try to say drafting a defenseman is a bigger need, but trust us there is a reason for it. We are not just wanting a forward because they are the "sexier" pick.

Problem is that the Oilers can't build their ENTIRE team from the draft. They need to add a free agent at some point, so getting a big 3rd line centre shouldn't be impossible for them to do.

Adding a high end D while having the luxury to take your time with him would just be a plus. Add a 3rd line centre through free agency or trades if you need one. Nuge-Gags 1-2. They'll be alright
 

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You are right.. they aren't sure things you can't ignore that they are definitely more of a sure thing than Ewanyk, Vande Velde, Arcobello, Martindale, Khaira etc.. The Oilers have a bigger need for a center in their prospect pool. Not to mention the fact almost every rankings have Lindholm as a better prospect than Nurse. BPA + bigger need, it's hard to pass on Lindholm.

Unless you are drafting an NHL ready player in the top 3 picks or so, the draft is for bolstering your future. In the future, the D will not be nearly as big a problem as it is today and our center depth will be.

I like Nurse, and wouldn't mind it if the Oilers picked him but I just prefer Lindholm.

Oilers fans are aggressive when people try to say drafting a defenseman is a bigger need, but trust us there is a reason for it. We are not just wanting a forward because they are the "sexier" pick.

a number 3 Defensman is harder to find than a 3rd line center, Gagner just had a career year and Oiler fans still want A "Quality second line center". Look at the Chicago Blackhawks, they don't have a great goalie nor do they have a number 2 center, unless Handzus is a 2C. However they have:Keith,Seabrook,Hjalmersson who on most teams are top-Pairing D-men.

Look at the LA kings, they built there team from the back-end out, and ended up acquiring Richards Via trade.

Also many scout's believe this is the strongest draft in years, if that is true, at 7th you aren't looking for a second line or 3rd line defensively responsible center.
Also MacT has been quiet on Lindholm, He mentioned Mackinnon,Barkov and Monahan when adressing season ticket holders,no?
 

NJD1982

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#9 – New Jersey Devils – Nikita Zadorov – They don’t like anyone on the board as much as they do Nikita. The big tough Russian will be a future stud. They like his toughness.

No pretty sure we like Domi and Shinkaruk a hell of a lot more than we do Zadorov.
 

Kmode

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Yeah, because the Sharks need a goalie of the future with the second first rounder they've kept in 6 years because they have problems with their 29-year-old Vezina nominee. Great logic.

Goalies typically take 3-5 years to make the bigs. Who knows what Niemi will be like then.

People never seem to realize that unless you have a 22 year old stud goalie (does any team), it's never a bad idea to draft a potential starter. He won't be ready for years..
 

1972

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apparently teams draft 17 year olds to fill "needs" on their team, news to me. Sorry Devils fans but if your scouts view Zadarov as a top pair guy and Shinkaruk/Domi as top 6 wingers you are taking Zadorov regardless of your needs.

I like the mock btw
 
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1972

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Yeah, because the Sharks need a goalie of the future with the second first rounder they've kept in 6 years because they have problems with their 29-year-old Vezina nominee. Great logic.

agree with you but, when Niemi is 35 Fucale will only be 23 years old, having Niemi has no impact on whether you pick a goalie or not.
 

Limekiller

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Goalies typically take 3-5 years to make the bigs. Who knows what Niemi will be like then.

People never seem to realize that unless you have a 22 year old stud goalie (does any team), it's never a bad idea to draft a potential starter. He won't be ready for years..

Except we actually have several goalie prospects in the pipeline that the organization is very high on. Goalie is absolutely the *LAST* thing we need in this draft. To take one over Zykov, Burakowski, Mantha or Klimchuk would be an Mike Milbury-level Pejorative Slur GM move
 

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