BronzeSpruce
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ZAR
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A true Penguin, through and through.
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He is pretty much a bottom six forward so I don’t really care. Kuhn 2.0
Between Tanger, Murray, Maatta, Geno, Horny and Rust, I've just not got the capacity to worry about ZAR's injuries.
Kid's a true Pen though. Bet he catches leprosy this summer.
Kid's a true Pen though. Bet he catches leprosy this summer.
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It’s noticeable to me. Straight line speed is now even above average.
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He never played an overly physical game in college, so with the Pens wanting him to evolve his game, his body probably isn't used to giving/receiving this much abuse. We'll see how he responds next year.
Yes.
At the same time, that the organization and apparently Sully see him as a top 6 forward is far more concerning than the injury history.
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I don't count what happened to him in the playoffs, so I'm not sure I'd call it an injury history yet.
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Before and injury last year he was playing on Crosby’s line for a while, got hurt then stayed on the 4th after coming back. Was playing on Malkins line and now hurt again.
He’s been more than a bottom six forward on this team but can’t stay in the linenup long enough to take advantage of it. Your comment cements my argument. You see him as a bottom 6 yet he has had opportunities playing top 6, is he a bottom 6? Or is he a potential top 6 who can’t stay healthy?
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Who said anything about trading him? He was brought in with the tag of future Horny replacement. Now that he can’t stay healthy maybe you want to look at someone in the draft who has similar skill set where otherwise you wouldn’t have to if he could stay healthy.
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He’s a bottom six forward that our staff and management want to be in a top six role. Injury ain’t got anything to do with it.
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He doesn't seem to have enough closing speed to get to many loose pucks or pressure people on the forecheck.
I dunno. If we want a complementary guy for Malkin and Kessel, I think he needs to be faster than ZAR.
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I agree. For me ZAR is in the bottom 6, maybe even 4th with a full lineup.
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Here's the deal...
ZAR is a professional hockey player. He has talent or wouldn't be in the game.
But he's average to below average. It is what it is, but there's hundreds if not thousands who can play their game he plays.
JR should feel free to let him go and try another player..but the org likes him more than they should.
ZAR is a professional hockey player. He has talent or wouldn't be in the game.
But he's average to below average. It is what it is, but there's hundreds if not thousands who can play their game he plays.
JR should feel free to let him go and try another player..but the org likes him more than they should.
This is beginning to get a little silly.
There's not thousands of players who can do what ZAR does. And when it comes to doing what ZAR does while being on ZAR's money and actually being acquirable in a fair fashion, its probably not even a hundred. Most teams don't let cheap defensively responsible players with 30 ES point paces go just because.
And if you want to know what we have in WBS, the league standings and boxcars should give people a good idea that the answer is probably "Very little". We have mined that place out for the time being.
ZAR probably is overrated by management. But being a guy that they should just let go - not even qualify and trade - that's an even bigger underrating. He's perfectly acceptable cheap depth. Chuck those guys away and you end up with guys like Rowney/Garrett Wilson/Porter taking up roster spaces for a lot of the season.
Taking away the Wilson hit still leaves him with three injuries in not even a full regular season yet though.
There's not thousands of players who can do what ZAR does. And when it comes to doing what ZAR does while being on ZAR's money and actually being acquirable in a fair fashion, its probably not even a hundred. Most teams don't let cheap defensively responsible players with 30 ES point paces go just because.
And if you want to know what we have in WBS, the league standings and boxcars should give people a good idea that the answer is probably "Very little". We have mined that place out for the time being.
ZAR probably is overrated by management. But being a guy that they should just let go - not even qualify and trade - that's an even bigger underrating. He's perfectly acceptable cheap depth. Chuck those guys away and you end up with guys like Rowney/Garrett Wilson/Porter taking up roster spaces for a lot of the season.
Taking away the Wilson hit still leaves him with three injuries in not even a full regular season yet though.
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I disagree, any player under 25 who can fill a role/contribute is incredibly important to this team moving forward. With forwards like Rust and Guentzel coming off their ELC we need players like ZAR if we are going g to remain successful. Look at ‘16 and ‘17.
Especially with Rust, Guentzel, Horny getting extended/paid, then factor in Johnson, Bjugstad and Gudbrasson.
