Injury Report: Zaitzev not recovering from the Flu, to undergo tests

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  1. Walshy7

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    id never buy him out, he is a top4 RHD that's about what a #4Dman gets paid in todays environment, maybe a shade less say $4M. Last year he played above that level and I guess some were spoilt by that. He has had a pretty serious injury this year that kept him out 18 games. Rielly had a similar thing and when he came back it took along time for the regular Rielly to show. Zaitsev is a non issue as long as he is healthy at his worst he is a excellent bottom pair dman, at his average he is a very good #3/4 dman. Polak at his best is a very good bottom pair dman
     
  2. Walshy7

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    I guess no one will know, but anyone with any kind of objectivity would say he has missed 18 games so far this year and even after coming back from injury still looks like he may have after effects of the injury and lack of game practice
     
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    Well it's not like he'd be playing for free back there. I think he'd make more than enough of it back.
    I don't see this happening for another couple years as well. So it wouldn't be $27M either.
     
  4. Daisy Jane

    Daisy Jane everything is gonna be okay!

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    I do.
     
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    Unless your playing for Putin's team you don't really make all that much money in the KHL playing hockey these days and contracts are not guaranteed. Several of our AHL vets earn more than the average KHL player, and that's before the fact that some KHL teams don't pay players for months at a time and its not uncommon for that to go on long enough to cancel whatever contract the player and team have signed.
     
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    Community 44 is Rielly good

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    Mono doesnt typically manifest like the flu. The only thing mono would be mistaken for is probably strep throat.
     
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    I wonder if Zaitsev is having a transition year just like how Rielly did last year, trying to be more defensively responsible and finding himself. If he wasn't injured he'd be on pace for around 200 blocked shots while he had 136 last year which led the defense. He's had his PK ice time almost double from last year to this year at 3:08 per game. Had his PP time taken entirely by Rielly.

    I personally think it's a confidence issue this year after the injury. I think we'll see the dynamic Zaitsev again and he'll be a more defensively responsible one. He had a good first year for his first year in the NHL.
     
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    If you look at his results Walshy he's not a mid pair defenseman

    He's got the tools but how he plays is a serious issue, he either won't or can't hold his own blueline and he doesn't exit his own zone with control

    That's a major issue if he's playing mid pair, your overestimating how good he was last year as well
     
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    Hopefully its something that he can recover from over the next month at worst. Its not like losing him for the last 13 games is going to affect the team position wise for the playffs and it may give us an opportunity to see more of Holl and what he can do up here over an extended run so the team can be better informed as to what to do with him for next year.
     
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    Hasn't recovered from the flu... It's Monday, he got sick on... what Friday. Anybody ever have the flu for more than three days.... Umm... ya!!!!
     
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    Last season wasn't just good, it was great.

    2nd on the team in defensive scoring, and 3rd amond rookie defenseman.
    Carried his partner (mo, gards) as much as they carried him. Lots of compliments from Babcock and some big goals.

    If you don't think he did well last year, you need to watch more hockey.

    The beginning of this season started out well, but he seems to have tired. A reset could be good for him, but make no doubt about it, he's a talented top 4 defenseman
     
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    Daisy Jane everything is gonna be okay!

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    it could be.
    i think he also just had a really bad 2nd year (with outside factors). i also think, a lot of people don't want to acknowledge that despite his age, he is a sophomore on NHL ice, so that's a factor.
     
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    Flu bug has been worse this year. Not in terms of severity, but in terms of the strains being reversed compared to other years. Maybe it's that.
    Either way...he's sick. As long as it's not life altering..meh. Let's see what Carrick can do with a little bit more icetime.
     
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    Everyone is saying he's playing bad... He was our best deference before he got injured. People have small memories
     
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    So many misinformed posters in here. Zaitsev his had flashes of brilliance, especially to start off this season. He leads our team in ATOI per game and is +10. He's had injuries and now seems to have been sick for quite some time. Let's just ease off and give him some time to come back before we buy him out, send him down, trade him, etc. He's a good defenseman having a tough season outside the game of hockey.

    I hope it's not a serious illness.
     
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    Interesting take and a bit more balanced than many around here would like, thats for sure.

    You do tend to see Rielly/Hainsey get tough assignments and then Zaitsev/Gards get the secondary but when they go into a defensive shell, Babs throws out Zaitsev/Hainsey which accounts for the 39.43 CF away from Gards. Also nice of someone to point out that Gardiner has actually played better with Zaitsev than away from him (and this is more pronounced looking deeper into advanced stats).

    Zone exits are still a problem most of the time and I'm hoping the coach's continue to work on those.

    While he has struggled on the PK, especially as of late, his numbers allowing scoring chances, especially high danger chances has markedly improved, especially when taking his QoC into account. He also lead the D in +- with a solid QoC and mostly defensive zone starts (for those who like that).

    All in all, an OK #4 when you look at the numbers overall but I think he has more to give and we expect more from him. He's certainly not an overpay based on what he provides, despite what many say. Only playing like a 3.5-4 cap hit this year? Burn the witch! Its been crazy talk.

    Its too bad Zaitsev has to go through yet another struggle but I'm hoping it clears up soon. We need him as much as anyone for the playoffs.

    The lead in to the Matthews article right after that had me smiling bit.

    "So far, the Leafs are 8-6-2 without Auston Matthews and 32-16-5 with him (which is a 106-point pace). First off, that’s the value of a superstar and how lucky the Leafs were to win that lottery."

    Its not far off of the record with and without Zaitsev this year. He must be doing something right.....
     
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    That's a regular occurrence around here.
     
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    1.75 years in the NHL is a small sample size to conclude if he's good or bad. But the seven year term is concerning.
     
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    Exactly this
     
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    My thought: what if this illness is something that has been impacting his performance and he just started to become symptomatic?
     
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    The wife is a high school teacher and caught the flu going around. I had it for 3 weeks (didn't even show as flu just aches and pains at first) and she still has it. It turned into bronchitis for her. It doesn't surprise me that a hockey player could suffer a little extra from it. I'm thinking of deep breathing cold dry air, probably not the besst for it.
     
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    Not the only one.

    When things don’t respond, it can become serious.
     
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    I actually do not think he is fully recovered from his previous injury. He seems to lack explosiveness in his skating, his first 3 strides appear to be lagging. I notice it in his own end when he 'tries' to skate the puck out of danger but ends up using the boards.

    Hopefully this is an opportunity to rest and he is OK.
     
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    Nope, mine went there too.
     
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    I agrree we made the playoffs since he hss been here yet we dick around with jake gardiner and he isnt bought 4.5 dont get u much more nikky but cmon he csn play 25 minutes a night on a good team
     

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