Dreger: Zaitsev on the Market

[He Is Knocking]

No one is worse than Andrew MacDonald but Zaitsev is in the conversation.

 

[Leaf Fans]

QUESTION Can toronto trade the 2021 first round pick since its tied up in the marleau trade

I don't think they can until the condition is met.

 

[K Fleur]

And he is.

Like I said; Hell of an achievement.

Doesn’t make him a real #4 though.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Like I said; Hell of an achievement.

Ok

 

[sparxx87]

To be the #4 in Pittsburgh a defenseman needs to be better than Jack Johnson and Gudbranson.

Hell of a thing to hang your hat on.

A lot of teams get thin after their top 2-3 guys... That’s precisely why it’s foolish to suggest there won’t be interest.

There isn’t more than a handful of teams who have 4 better.... so for 4.5m, he ain’t bad... especially if you’re considering paying Tyler Myers or Jake Gardiner 6+

 

[PemIceKing]

No, he would be a 1 or 2 in the KHL. He is a number 4 for Pittsburgh though and a lot of other teams.

Yup. What swept last year I believe.

 

[PemIceKing]

He's not a third pairing D he's a 2nd pairing D. And at this rate he isn't overpaid for much longer.

He never was, just used incorrectly.

 

[ER89]

Cool. Keep Zaitsev then.

we will. At 3.5 he's a steal esp with the crap contracts given out.

 

[I am Canadian]

Sure he is a 2nd pairing D. That’s why a team starved for RHD is dying to get rid of him. He’s #5 who can play spot duty in the top 4 paid like a top 4 D.

Dubas has stated that he doesn't want to move Zaitsev, a deal would need to have a similar guy come back to replace him

It's 100% players request

 

[Langdon Alger]

we will. At 3.5 he's a steal esp with the crap contracts given out.

He’s not 3.5. He’s 4.5. Sure, keep him. I’m sure other teams don’t mind.

 

[BlackFrancis]

He never was, just used incorrectly.

An NHL coach disagrees with that.

 

[ER89]

He’s not 3.5. He’s 4.5. Sure, keep him. I’m sure other teams don’t mind.

uh yes but with that retention you want he'd be 3.5

 

[PemIceKing]

QUESTION Can toronto trade the 2021 first round pick since its tied up in the marleau trade

Question: Can the Habs get anyone to sign in free agency? What’s with all the little people on the team?

 

[majormajor]

Go read the article where he talks about his role. Other than QoC and zone starts where he got buried, he was also the leader in on-the-fly d-zone starts after the 3rd pairing would lose possession. Babcock used him to stop the bleeding and his results are pretty ok despite this, especially if you look at the results he and Muzzin put up.

Everyone talks about Tanev being an elite defensive D and a bargain at 4.5, but Zaitsev had harder usage and better shot metrics.

Comparing him to a broken down version of Tanev is not high praise.

 

[PemIceKing]

Ok and?

 

[Langdon Alger]

uh yes but with that retention you want he'd be 3.5

The only way I’d consider him is if the Leafs retained or took salary back. To be honest, I’d rather not, but that’s the only way I’d consider it. Since some Leaf fans are saying they wouldn’t retain, that’s cool with me.

 

[sparxx87]

@BlackFrancis
So should the coach have used an inferior player to match up to accommodate what Nikita Zaitsev wants? Or is it the coaches job to do what’s best for the team?

You’ve quoted those posts as if they’re contradicting when they aren’t. Both are true.

 

[Yackiberg8]

When did I say 78% of his contract? I said they would pay 1 million a year for the next five years. Was I not clear on that? I said I had no interest in him at 4.5, but at 3.5 I might have some interest.

Also, to say I’m in every leafs thread is just not true.

Your post reads that you suggested the Leafs retain $3.5 million. Could’ve been the wording I suppose.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Comparing him to a broken down version of Tanev is not high praise.

Is Tanev a cap dump then? How many picks would it take to get rid of his salary?

 

[Langdon Alger]

Your post reads that you suggested the Leafs retain $3.5 million. Could’ve been the wording I suppose.

No it didn’t. Try reading it again. Either way, no worries.

 

[BM14]

I had a feeling he was on the market. I got the inkling from the thread last week that said he was on the market.

But did you hear it from Paul Marner?

 

[Liferleafer]

Did they really? Good Lord, why would they bring back Marincin?!?

Only reàson i can think of is for the Marlies...and he's cheap.

 

[McFlyingV]

uh yes but with that retention you want he'd be 3.5

At 3.5 he'd be a fair price, certainly not a steal.

No offence, chip the puck off the boards, defensive D (with average defensive metrics). He's a #5 or a #4 on a team really struggling on the back end. 3.5M for that is fair, but nothing more.

 

[majormajor]

Is Tanev a cap dump then? How many picks would it take to get rid of his salary?

No, because his contract is almost done. I imagine if he had 5 years left it would be pretty costly to move him.

 

[TT1]

we will. At 3.5 he's a steal esp with the crap contracts given out.

lmao