Player Discussion Zach Senyshyn

[Fenian24]

I like all those things too. Not a super fan of the smaller players, though they can't be ignored. You have to have a healthy balance. You need some sand paper in there as well. You need guys like Pastarnak but they can't all be like that. The Bruins as they are built right now are a little lacking in the snarl department.

Truth is, I went in hoping to get Beecher but when I saw Kaliyev fall that far down I changed my mind. I am a fan of the bigger players, guys like Beecher are my kind of hockey player. Kaliyev isn't small either and has skill to burn. The knock on him, and probably why he fell is he's know to drag his feet at times but his skill level is rare.

Even when the Bruins drafted Senyshyn, I reluctantly drank the Kool-Aid cause I'm all about about big , fast , skilled players but 4 years later I see him struggle and all those chosen after him producing. I need a few answers, I'm not getting any that make a lick of sense to me.

I think Kaliyev falls into the character discussion as well. Regardless of size, skill level, toughness, how great a fighter, shooting ability, great physical play, however you grade players out I want nothing to do with players with questionable work ethic or desire to play. See Spooner, Hamilton, or tons of players who had the talent but no work ethic or desire.

That may not be Kaliyev but usually when a player with his skillset drops it's interviews or intangibles. Beecher seems to be the opposite regarding poor intangibles

 

[Fenian24]

If Senyshyn plays in Boston this season and puts up 20 goals will people finally stop *****ing about the 2015 draft? This is the real question.

Nope, he will have to be as good as Barzal, Connor or Boeser to shut me up. Again it's not his fault it is the GM of the years fault with his mini me at the time the untalented Gretzky

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Nope, he will have to be as good as Barzal, Connor or Boeser to shut me up. Again it's not his fault it is the GM of the years fault with his mini me at the time the untalented Gretzky

Does anyone else find these garbage posts garbage?

 

[member 96824]

Nope, he will have to be as good as Barzal, Connor or Boeser to shut me up. Again it's not his fault it is the GM of the years fault with his mini me at the time the untalented Gretzky

I don’t recall many people projecting Boeser in the 13-15 range. Redline had him at 30. In ISS he was outside of the first round.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Does anyone else find these garbage posts garbage?

Yes

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Yes

I'm surprised he didn't add Konecny, Aho, Colin White, ans Jordan Greenway to that list.

To list Boeser there is an absolute joke. He would have been considered a reach as well.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I'm surprised he didn't add Konecny, Aho, Colin White, ans Jordan Greenway to that list.

To list Boeser there is an absolute joke. He would have been considered a reach as well.

Your right but it would have been a much better reach

 

[DrJustice]

Probably his best chance to make the roster is if they don't bring anyone for the rest of the offseason.

Pastrnak is the only proven top-6 right hand winger on the team.

His biggest competition is Karson Kuhlman and an injured Anders Bjork.

Guys like Backes, Wagner and Ritchie are solid bottom six options but shouldn't be keeping anyone out of a top-9.

Still don't think it's make or break but the opportunity is there.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I'm surprised he didn't add Konecny, Aho, Colin White, ans Jordan Greenway to that list.

To list Boeser there is an absolute joke. He would have been considered a reach as well.

He was still a first round player who I too wanted at the time. More for personal reasons but I knew he had the talent as well.

 

[WestCoastBruinsFan]

Don't see how those numbers help the team, considering rookie mistakes is about all he'll bring to the table outside of offense.

What exactly do you think he has been working on for the past two years in Prov with excellent defensive coaching?

 

[PB37]

Nope, he will have to be as good as Barzal, Connor or Boeser to shut me up. Again it's not his fault it is the GM of the years fault with his mini me at the time the untalented Gretzky

What if he beats up Barzal, Connor, and Boeser?

 

[Over the volcano]

What exactly do you think he has been working on for the past two years in Prov with excellent defensive coaching?

Every impatient fan’s nerves

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

What if he beats up Barzal, Connor, and Boeser?

Then it is legitimate.

Any player beating the crap out of another who is -7 with 0 goals and 3 assists and 8 minutes of ice time is his wish player

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

What exactly do you think he has been working on for the past two years in Prov with excellent defensive coaching?

So you think that will immediately make him a decent defensive player in the NHL? I doubt it.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

So you think that will immediately make him a decent defensive player in the NHL? I doubt it.

Well in fairness how do you know it wouldn’t?

We have to acknowledge hard work and see how it plays out.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and succeed bc he didnt fit the system.

 

[WestCoastBruinsFan]

So you think that will immediately make him a decent defensive player in the NHL? I doubt it.

No, but he may not automatically be a dud like some people like to consider a given already.

 

[JOKER 192]

I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and succeed bc he didnt fit the system.

No way that's acceptable without an amazing return. Not for this guy.

 

[JOKER 192]

Then it is legitimate.

Any player beating the crap out of another who is -7 with 0 goals and 3 assists and 8 minutes of ice time is his wish player

You can say anything you want about Fenian24 and as misguided as it may or may not be , he knows what he wants to see and he doesn't waiver from it, you gotta give him that.

 

[Gordoff]

Then you miss out on guys like Pastrnak.

OR guys like Hamill...

 

[JOKER 192]

To review

This whole piece is brilliant. Perfect evaluation of what we have seen so far and likely what we will see going forward. Just wish you had included a floor as well as a ceiling to your expectations.

 

[CDJ]

I think Kaliyev falls into the character discussion as well. Regardless of size, skill level, toughness, how great a fighter, shooting ability, great physical play, however you grade players out I want nothing to do with players with questionable work ethic or desire to play. See Spooner, Hamilton, or tons of players who had the talent but no work ethic or desire.

That may not be Kaliyev but usually when a player with his skillset drops it's interviews or intangibles. Beecher seems to be the opposite regarding poor intangibles

Totally agree

These high character guys are more likely to realize and reach their ceilings. The ceiling may be lower than that of a Kaliyev but who cares what a players ceiling is it they don’t have the mentality to try and maximize their potential. That’s what I think the bruins try and screen out and is why you see them pick these high motor guys in the first round even if there are much higher ranked players still on the board


For every Barzal there is an Angelo Esposito. Hopefully for our sanity Kaliyev is more Esposito

 

[Saxon Eric]

This whole piece is brilliant. Perfect evaluation of what we have seen so far and likely what we will see going forward. Just wish you had included a floor as well as a ceiling to your expectations.

Didn't want to ruin your weekend with a floor
But since its Monday..
His floor is a frustrating AHL player who pops up now and again but can't stick
Ceiling... he gets hot early sky is the limit
Getting close to 30 goals one year and 8 the next is a strong possibility, he's extremely streaky

 

[JOKER 192]

Didn't want to ruin your weekend with a floor
But since its Monday..
His floor is a frustrating AHL player who pops up now and again but can't stick
Ceiling... he gets hot early sky is the limit
Getting close to 30 goals one year and 8 the next is a strong possibility, he's extremely streaky

Ya, I could see that in him .

 

[JOKER 192]

Totally agree

These high character guys are more likely to realize and reach their ceilings. The ceiling may be lower than that of a Kaliyev but who cares what a players ceiling is it they don’t have the mentality to try and maximize their potential. That’s what I think the bruins try and screen out and is why you see them pick these high motor guys in the first round even if there are much higher ranked players still on the board


For every Barzal there is an Angelo Esposito. Hopefully for our sanity Kaliyev is more Esposito

Esposito's career went sideways because of injuries.